Topic: try this out...
Ceallagh's photo
Mon 05/31/10 10:48 PM
So I have a "proof" of the existence of God, though not of any particular one. I want to see if the logic holds as well as I would like it to. The argument is not as formal as it should be.

Belief in God is similar to belief in gravity. They are both perceptible only by means of their effects on imminent bodies. My thinking is that on this level of analysis, God and gravity are the same. Accept one, accept the other.

The effects of God vary between people in the same way the effects of gravity vary between masses.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 06/01/10 08:46 AM
That's basically the pantheistic view of "god" and why it needs no proof since, in a very real sense, it's already self-evident.

However, that line of reasoning isn't going to go very far toward proving that a mythological picture of a specific human-like Godhead is God, like say, Zeus, for example.

There's nothing in your so-called "proof" that points to any particular mythological or archetypal model of a "god".

In fact, atheists can easily reject the whole notion altogether and claim that all your truly saying is the following:

"I have deeply passionate feelings, therefore there must be a God".

Logically it just doesn't pan out. Depending, of course, on your definition of "God". If you define "God" as nothing more than the source of deeply passionate feelings, then your definition will automatically be true by definition.

The problem with this comes down to the definition of "God". If you want to define God as a being who is omniscient, omnipotent, and can intervene in human affairs in supernatural ways, then you'll need to come up with a better "proof" that these things are actually occurring in your life.

Right now all you're basically saying is that you have very strong feelings that a God must exist, therefore it must be true.

CharliePiano's photo
Tue 06/01/10 09:18 AM
I don't see where it's a proof?... it just sounds like contemplation to me. "God is like gravity..."

no photo
Tue 06/01/10 05:48 PM
Why do you think that God effects people? What are some of the effects that you think God has on people? Does it depend on people's beliefs?


no photo
Tue 06/01/10 05:50 PM
The effects of God vary between people in the same way the effects of gravity vary between masses.


Really? So the effects of God varies as the product of measurable qualities of God and the person, divided by the square of their distance?


Ceallagh's photo
Tue 06/01/10 08:04 PM
Never mind...

CharliePiano's photo
Wed 06/02/10 04:58 PM

Never mind...

laugh