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Edited by
msmyka
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar.
I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. |
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar. I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. I understand how some can be..like I said, with having my 3 boys I'm around A LOT of girls 16-30...and I've seen much garbage with them. This guy isn't a bouncer, a bouncer may have handled it differently. Were only getting one side of the story here...go read his post in "road rage" The other thread he started last night. |
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Edited by
msmyka
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Sun 06/06/10 09:45 AM
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar. I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. I understand how some can be..like I said, with having my 3 boys I'm around A LOT of girls 16-30...and I've seen much garbage with them. This guy isn't a bouncer, a bouncer may have handled it differently. Were only getting one side of the story here...go read his post in "road rage" The other thread he started last night. Notice I never said I feel sorry for this guy, just bouncers who have to deal with these chicks. 
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I'm a club promoter in Los Angeles and usually spend 3 to 4 nights a week in my club. Usually it's a cool scene, but sometimes there are trouble makers. We have bouncers that control things , but they can't see everything and sometimes I end up dealing with something myself. This one night I noticed this guy with a bloody nose and this chick who had punched him was cursing him. I went over to find out what happened and the chick was saying this guy was groping the girl she was with and so on. I said, "Look, we,ve got a strict rule on this shi*. You fight, you're out. Your'e welcome to come back in the future, but tonight you're out." The chick exploded when she heard this. "I guess it's ok for a women to be assaulted in this club. I guess we should stand around and do nothing. " "What you're supposed to do is get a bouncer ...", I said but she interrupted me in mid sentence. "My friend was getting her *** grabbed. I'm a 3rd degree black belt in Tae Kown Do. I use restraint, but I won't allow anyone to attack my friends." "Wait a minute", I said, "if you used restraint, why is this guy standing here with a broken nose?" This really pissed her off. "You asshol*", she said, "I told you 3 fuc*ing times he assaulted my friend". At this point both of these xxxxxes were up in my face cursing and calling me names. "Alright ladies", I said, "it's time to go." "I want to talk to your boss", she responded. "I am the boss around here. I'm in charge and you're leaving." "You better call up your boss because if you touch me I'll break you nose too." This was a mistake. I don't like being threatened. First I turned to the guy with a bloody nose. "Go tell them that I sent you over for a free drink. You get to stay. How do you 2 like them apples?" He walked off with a smile on his face and the TKD chick was furious. "He stays we stay mother fu*ke*!" With that I grabbed her by the arm to escort her out and she punched me in the mouth hard enough to bust my lip up. Now I don't train martial arts as much as I use too, but I take my steroids and hit the weights hard core. I tackled this chick like a linebacker and I thought about pounding her out like I would a man, but I was a gentleman and didn't throw a punch. Instead I put a vicious head lock and started choking hard. "Want to play with men b*tch?" I whispered in her ear. "No matter how hard you train in Tae Kwon Do you will never be able to live in my world." By this time the bouncers had arrived and I let them have the chick. When she got her wind back and the bouncers picked her up, she started cursing me again. I just grinned at her because we both knew she had learned a lesson. There are some men a karate chick can mess with and there are some they can't. I would find out the name of the martial arts school she attended and 1. Tell her Master about her bahavior, 2. Do not hire anyone from that school to bounce for you, and 3. Tell everyone u know that it's a crappy school if she is a typical product of it. If the school is bad you may want to contact The TaeKwon Do on the National level, and there is more than one as some are still ocnnected to the Koreans and some not, so I recommended contacting the World Tae Kwon Do Federation. Her behavior was inexcusable. If she is really a 3rd Degree (which I doubt seriously as an advanced rank would not behave that way) she has plenty of tools to restrain and intervene that involve no physical intervention at all,, namaste, sorry for ur troubles |
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I noticed quite a few people on this site with no experience in site security chiming in and questioning my security measures. I have over 13 years of security experience working and running nightclubs in the Los Angeles and Bay area. I started off as a bouncer to pay my way through UCLA.
Unfortunately, in any nightclub a time will come when a patron must be asked to leave. Management has an obligation to its employees and other customers not to have an obnoxious or potentially dangerous customer on the premises. Most patrons, when treated with courtesy, will leave will little or no outburst. If the customer hasn’t been violent, it’s sometimes best to give the patron a little space after making the request to leave and give them a moment to collect themselves, quickly finish their drink or cigarette and move out with their dignity intact. If the customer becomes verbally belligerent you must resist using force to physically remove the patron. There is no law that authorizes club owners or bouncers to physically manhandle an unwanted customer unless in self-defense or in an effort to take someone into custody for committing a crime. Sometimes the ejected customer will vent using profanity on the staff while preparing to leave. Verbal abuse is not against the law in most states unless they are threatening or fighting words. In a heated situation everyone needs time and space for all parties to cool off. It’s best to let this person exit without standing over them and once outside firmly warn them not to return in the future. In many states you can issue a trespass warning to the ejected party that formally notifies them that they are subject to being arrested for trespass if they return. In some states, security can use minimal force to remove a trespasser once they have been duely warned. If a patron becomes combative or assaults someone they must be immediately removed from the premises. Reasonable physical force may be used to prevent the attacker from injuring anyone else including you. Reasonable force begins with holding force or just enough to overcome the aggression and then can escalate to meet the level aggression. This is called the use of force continuum.. Punching or kicking the ejected patron is offensive rather than defensive force and is not reasonable. That being said if you assault me, my employees or one of my clients in my place of business regardless of whether your are a 6ft 8inch 355 pound gang member or 5ft 4inch 105lb swimsuit model, you will pay the price my friends. |
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sweetestgirl11,
Excellent suggestion my friend. I will be contacting World Tae Kwon Do Federation and notifying the leadership of her inexcusable behavior. I have the incident on surveillance video and would gladly provide the evidence if necessary. |
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Edited by
msmyka
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Sun 06/06/10 10:09 AM
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It's a public forum OP, most people who chime in these threads have no idea about a lot of things.
 Unfortunately it's a full time job to educate everyone on every topic you post which is why I usually stick to the silly stuff 
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar. I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. msmyka, Thank you for your compassion and understanding my friend. It is a difficult job but meeting wonderful people like yourself makes my job worth the stress and aggravation. |
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar. I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. I understand how some can be..like I said, with having my 3 boys I'm around A LOT of girls 16-30...and I've seen much garbage with them. This guy isn't a bouncer, a bouncer may have handled it differently. Were only getting one side of the story here...go read his post in "road rage" The other thread he started last night. Notice I never said I feel sorry for this guy, just bouncers who have to deal with these chicks. huh..your post says... I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy... It doesn't matter..I'm not condoning any of the behaviors he posted about. His, the girl, the alleged azz grabber. Sounds to me a few things went wrong that night.. I'm just glad I wasn't there. |
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I don't go to clubs anymore, too much drama every single time. I'm a sit at the pub and chat with the regulars kind of girl now. I could never do what you do, I would probably punch females.
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sweetestgirl11, Excellent suggestion my friend. I will be contacting World Tae Kwon Do Federation and notifying the leadership of her inexcusable behavior. I have the incident on surveillance video and would gladly provide the evidence if necessary. |
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I actually feel for bouncers, they are allowed to man handle guys to get them out the door but females they basically have to listen to them squawk while they nicely walk them out the door. I do not feel sorry for chicks who can't handle their booze and get their @sses kicked out of bars. One less bltch I have to worry about dealing with at the bar. I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy, I know the girls out here and their mentality. I want to knock out several girls a night at the bar but I just have to laugh it off because these chicks are just ridiculous. I understand how some can be..like I said, with having my 3 boys I'm around A LOT of girls 16-30...and I've seen much garbage with them. This guy isn't a bouncer, a bouncer may have handled it differently. Were only getting one side of the story here...go read his post in "road rage" The other thread he started last night. Notice I never said I feel sorry for this guy, just bouncers who have to deal with these chicks. huh..your post says... I live in So Cal and I feel for this guy... It doesn't matter..I'm not condoning any of the behaviors he posted about. His, the girl, the alleged azz grabber. Sounds to me a few things went wrong that night.. I'm just glad I wasn't there. I feel bad for him in the sense that he even has to deal with these chicks... the bouncers are the ones who I feel sorry for having to figure out a way to remove these girls from the bar with out being accused of assaulting them. |
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Yeah, the guy got to stay......after he got punched up bad by a girl. He got what he deserved, and the 'tough chick' got thrown out, she got what she deserved. Both will probably not come back for a long time if ever. So the owner got what he deserved.
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Some chicks need to be knocked down a peg (figuratively speaking) They think they can get the benefits of batting their eyes and smiling to get what they want... expect to have things bought for them and then turn around and grow a pair and man up to a guy? Oh noooooo sweetheart pick one, you can't have the best of both worlds. I don't blame the OP for saying what he did to this chick but then again I can't stand most chicks in so cal anyway.
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If a patron becomes combative or assaults someone they must be immediately removed from the premises. Reasonable physical force may be used to prevent the attacker from injuring anyone else including you. Hummm this is where you went wrong on the rules with that incident..the one that actually started all of this by groping a woman he should not have. Yet he got to stay and was offered a beer on the house??? If it was not for this little act I bet ya what followed would not had been to that extreme. You even quoted what she said "that the guy should have to leave too"..... But ohh noooooooo lets send him to the bar for a free drink to him he most likely took that as a pat on the back that you did not believe he did grope the other girl... I would keep an eye on that one in the future.......... Lot a times being in the bars are tough calls but when dealing with a drunk as many times as I have in the past. Normally as long as you stay calm unless they actually throw a punch ( then it don't matter if male/female they just crossed the line and will go down) but........if you do remain calm it will 95% of the time calm the ones that are aggressive down as well. But.........also I'm talking from a female side of view.. I mean come on most men see a female @ 5'1" come up to them and tell them it is time to leave they are in shock anyway and pretty much comply. I have seen the fights between women and have seen a few women I did not even want to walk up to and ask them to leave. Thinking OMG but.......I have and in the 10 years I worked the clubs back then not only were you a bartender but you were the bouncer as well.
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Edited by
Ladylid2012
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Sun 06/06/10 12:16 PM
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I hear ya Kristi...back in "the day" you were the bouncer and hopefully there were a couple of patrons there that were your friends.
I wasn't joking when I posted that I kept the fat end of the cue behind the bar. Mostly it was just held in my hand or smacked down on the bar to get their attention. I only ever whacked someone with it once cause they were coming at me. That's when patrons step in. My boyfriend was there every night an hour or two before closing time with a couple of his buds. The only law was to have all the glass off the bar and all drinks into go cups by 2:00AM....then just herding them out the door. Back then if an incident like this one would have taken place, the azz grabber would have been escorted out by the bartender...and a few patrons, or the girl if she had started it. Either way, someone would have had to go and there were no bouncers to do it. Times sure have changed.... |
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Edited by
Tribbles
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Sun 06/06/10 12:23 PM
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Every time I go to a club around here, someone gets shot. Just be aware that the oh so dramtic 'So Cal' scene (since it's apparenty a regional issue), is just that. Drama!
Your martial arts are in no way any match for a gun (Unless you're Steven Seagal!  ). USE CAUTION! It's the same $h!t anywhere you go... and sometimes worse! 
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Really Tribbles??? You see people getting shot in clubs....WTF
wow..makes the cowboys VS the hippies fist fighting and breaking beer bottles over each other's heads in the late 70's seem rather calm. Especially since 9 out of 10 times the would sit down and have a beer together after wards. |
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I'm not tough....I'm just old.....leave me to stew for a while and I will soften up...
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 feeling need to b!tchslap again AND  give flowers
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