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I think your country has also bumped Chernobyl off the number one on the list for global impact man-made environmental disasters...  In actuality, this time the company BP remains English owned, not American owned......and as far as our government.....well pumping there was approved and instituted under Bush when oil prices increased and the American people were upset over gas prices.......we complain they did its everyone involved fault.......that you can blame Bush for.......but either Bush, Obama or any other president only act to accomplish a goal, placate the American people, or cover a need.......we cannot rely on the governmeent to fix all the problems.......we as people have become too complacent Wanna know WHY they had to drill a few miles down?? The environuts. That's right friends and neighbors. Had the enviornazis not been so anal and thrown such a hissy fit about drilling for oil ( which, by the way, no matter HOW MUCH they don't like it is STILL a necessity ) in shallower waters, where, by the way, a spill or leak would have been MUCH easier to control orcap, we would have NEVER had this big of a problem go on for as long as it has. So go ahead and piss and moan about the environmental impact. The fact is, the ones who are now doing all the pissing and moaning are, in fact, the people that had a big hand in CAUSING the damn problem in the first place. But, hey, that's not what everyone wants to hear now is it?? Of course not. Let's not put any blame on the folks who FORCED BP and other companies to drill deeper than they have ever had to before. I do not absolve BP. There should have been contingency plans in place, equipment on hand, etc to be prepared. However. Since everyone seems to want to assign blame...let's make sure that ALL the people/groups who had a hand in causing it get their fair share. No blame and why is it a necessity? Can we not return to a simpler way of life? And to tell the truth we are hurting the Earth with it. The Earth will come back and hurt us for it....that is fact. |
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No blame and why is it a necessity? Can we not return to a simpler way of life? And to tell the truth we are hurting the Earth with it. The Earth will come back and hurt us for it....that is fact. Come on. Seriously. " Can we not go back to a simpler way of life ? " Do you REALLY think that's possible these days with so many people reliant on technology ( the vast majority of which runs on electricity ) and cars ( which run on gasoline ) and plastics ( oil based products ) and air conditioning in the Summer and heating in the Winter? You would prefer to go back to a time when everyone burned wood for heat?? What would the environuts be screaming about then??? " OMG!!! They are all killing TREES!!!! " Do you REALLY think it would be possible for the spoiled, apathetic people of this country to actually go back to a world that doesn't rely on oil based products?? If you do, then someone has been blowing some pretty good sunshine up your azz. Oil is a necessity. " Green solutions ", until they can be set up in ways to replace ALL things oil based, are no solution at all. They will not BE a solution for at least another 10-20 years. All of them put together simply do not add up to the cost effectiveness and accessibility of oil based products. They could cover the entire Western desert in wind turbines and solar panels and it would STILL provide less than HALF of the power needed to run this country. Facts are facts. Oil is a necessary evil at this point. Our country and economy are too reliant, and other ideas aren't nearly cost efficient enough or have the capacity to replace it. |
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Edited by
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Gee ... they don't seem to like it when you tell 'em the truth any better than they like it when I tell 'em the same thing ...
'Holy Mutha the Urth' is all-sacred ... screw that ... |
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wow
just wow |
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We dont have to replace anything. LOOK WHAT WE WAISTE!!!! WHAT WE THROW AWAY!!!!
Mandtory recycling!!! OH NO YOUR INFRIGING ON MY RIGHTS TO BE A TOTAL AZZ!!!!! F@@@K THE RIGHT AND F@@@@KING THE LEFT YOU ALL CAN KISS MY AZZZZZZ> You all got your head so far up your parties azzzzz you got shitballs washing up your nose.. This DISASTER is OUR HOMES, OUR JOBS, OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!!! AND YOU WANT TO TALK PARTYS ****!!!!!! I KNEW I LEFT THIS SITE FOR A REASON!!! |
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We dont have to replace anything. LOOK WHAT WE WAISTE!!!! WHAT WE THROW AWAY!!!! Mandtory recycling!!! OH NO YOUR INFRIGING ON MY RIGHTS TO BE A TOTAL AZZ!!!!! F@@@K THE RIGHT AND F@@@@KING THE LEFT YOU ALL CAN KISS MY AZZZZZZ> You all got your head so far up your parties azzzzz you got shitballs washing up your nose.. This DISASTER is OUR HOMES, OUR JOBS, OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!!! AND YOU WANT TO TALK PARTYS ****!!!!!! I KNEW I LEFT THIS SITE FOR A REASON!!! You left....but yet...here you are yapping away. Mandatory recycling?? Who's gonna pay for all the municipalities to build those recycling places?? Oh yeah. The people who pay taxes. Let's make recycling mandatory and have the government in charge of seeing that it gets done?? You have GOT to be kidding. |
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Gee ... they don't seem to like it when you tell 'em the truth any better than they like it when I tell 'em the same thing ... 'Holy Mutha the Urth' is all-sacred ... screw that ... I am not quite as extreme in my environmental views as you appear to be. I do think recycling and other things can help. What I don't believe, though, is that " Green Energy " has ANY chance of replacing oil based products any time in the near future. I do think that we need to do what we can to take care of the only place we have to live. BUT...I ALSO believe that it has to be done in reasonable ways. The main problem in this country is extremism. Far too many people think THEIR way is the ONLY way. |
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Gee ... they don't seem to like it when you tell 'em the truth any better than they like it when I tell 'em the same thing ... 'Holy Mutha the Urth' is all-sacred ... screw that ... I am not quite as extreme in my environmental views as you appear to be. I do think recycling and other things can help. What I don't believe, though, is that " Green Energy " has ANY chance of replacing oil based products any time in the near future. I do think that we need to do what we can to take care of the only place we have to live. BUT...I ALSO believe that it has to be done in reasonable ways. The main problem in this country is extremism. Far too many people think THEIR way is the ONLY way. Okay, I do not think it is extreme to see that we are killing the Earth. I do not believe in recycling because recycling causes just as much polution as products themselves. I believe we should all return to living like the Amish do. The industrial age caused more polution with a faster death rate to reefs anddamages to the Ocean....a main cause of support to human life. I believe living simpler is the right way to go......since we have not been dependent on fossil fuels forever.....I do not believe it would be hard to revert. |
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Gee ... they don't seem to like it when you tell 'em the truth any better than they like it when I tell 'em the same thing ... 'Holy Mutha the Urth' is all-sacred ... screw that ... I am not quite as extreme in my environmental views as you appear to be. I do think recycling and other things can help. What I don't believe, though, is that " Green Energy " has ANY chance of replacing oil based products any time in the near future. I do think that we need to do what we can to take care of the only place we have to live. BUT...I ALSO believe that it has to be done in reasonable ways. The main problem in this country is extremism. Far too many people think THEIR way is the ONLY way. I'm not extreme ... sometimes y' gotta shout and be a complete asss to make a point, tho' - and, since I have no shame, I don't effin' care WHAT people think about me personally ... BUT: I agree that there's a place for 'recycling' ... it just doesn't deserve the 'primacy' or 'pride of place' that it gets because, economically, it's NOT worth it ... in the case of recycling metals, that's a different story, 'cuz metals can be recycled indefinitely and it costs less on a per-pound basis to make new steel or aluminum from scrap metal than it does to mine ore for NEW metal ... Plastics, on the other hand, especially PET, have a limited number of recycling cycles they can be put thru. Once that's done, then it's just so much more hazardous waste - which, btw, is something generated during its recycling that has to be dealt with. Not so with metals - or not to the same degree. I believe, as a conservationist, that we should be 'good stewards' of what we inherited and pass it on in better shape than we received it to our posterity. I do NOT believe that the dead hand of government has ANY role to play in this at all. If it can't survive on its free market viability, then it's just one more failed business model to put in the dustbin of history ... That's what 'free markets' are all about ... Competition WILL solve the problem IF it's allowed to work. Government will NEVER solve the problem. Or ANY problem. |
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Edited by
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They could cover the entire Western desert in wind turbines and solar panels and it would STILL provide less than HALF of the power needed to run this country. That is not correct. On February 11, 2010, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory released the first comprehensive update of the wind energy potential by state since 1993, showing that the contiguous United States had potential to install 10,458,945 MW of onshore wind power.[17][18] The capacity could generate 37,000,000 gigawatt-hours (GWh) annually, an amount nine times larger than current total U.S. electricity consumption.[19] This amount is also larger than the total U.S. primary energy consumption of 29 PWh in 2005. Wind Power by State: Most new wind power capacity is being built in the Great Plains region of the United States, which has a favorable combination of characteristics: ample wind resources, an extensive rail and highway network for shipping outsized turbine components, flat topography which both improves the wind and makes turbine components easier to ship, and broad acceptance from local farmers and ranchers. New development in some locations, however, is being limited by lack of additional capacity to transmit power to locations where it can be used.[23] Other areas seeing wind development include the Pacific Northwest, the Upper Midwest, and the Northeast. The table below shows wind potential and installed capacity along with existing construction (through June 27, 2009). Kansas has high potential capacity for wind power, second behind Texas. The most recent estimates are that Kansas has a potential for 950 GW of wind power capacity yet has only about 1,000 MW installed. Kansas could generate 3,900 TW·h of electricity each year which represents nearly all the electricity generated from coal, natural gas and nuclear combined in the United States in 2008.[24] This electricity could be worth $340 billion per year (at 9.35 cents per kW·h[25]). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_the_United_States#cite_note-16 Of course, this is only for energy consumption, but oil will be still needed to produce plastic and we still don't have a reliable alternative fuel for vehicles. |
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Jobless rate hit 14% in Nevada, highest in the country. We were the 3rd for awhile. Are still the highest mortgage collapse in the US. The jobless numbers are for those still able to collect unemployemnt ONLY. The few people I know who were collecting, they're payments stopped during the last 7 weeks. Just where do they think people are going to get $, or work? They started when this mess started, back in Sept 08 when we had a different President for 8 years, nice goodbye gift. 2 nights ago, another company laid off over 250 people. Last month, a poorly planned new place laid off 350. Greed, poor planning and poor state representation. Thanks Senator. It's a dam good thing you got kicked out of the primaries, yea, we wanted more of your parties wheeling dealing. It is rough, a new deal few saw coming,, I think things are changing DRASTICALLY nearly overnight too first it was the change requiring people to have COLLEGE education to make decent money,, now they are saying employers actually are TURNING down unemployed people,,,,,,it pretty much sucks,, but the silver lining is maybe more people will become entrepreneurial and maybe greed will backfire by forcing people to live with less and learn to appreciate what they have,,,, Yep. Obama's " plan " is working to perfection. I think you may have misspoke. Employers aren't turning down unemployed people. They are turning down college educated people because they expect higher pay. Obabma's " plan " of taxing the " rich " ( mostly small business owners ) is not going to help the problem and will, in fact, exacerbate it. The more taxes a company has to pay, the less they are going to want to pay for workers. As usual, the Dems want to punish those who succeed. Start a successful business....they'll tax you out of business. Graduate college...you won't be able to find a job because companies can't AFFORD to pay well. What a great " plan ". the big companies can afford it, however the ceo's would have to take a pay cut.. if making over 100 million a year is not enough for them, then the whole country is in trouble. I really don't think blaming obama is the answer, when the republicans are the ones who let it get this bad to begin with. so whine about obama all you want, but he's only been in office a little under 2 years, while bush was in the last 8... |
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Actually..........both parties are responsible for where we are today.....not individuals but parties........ |
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Actually..........both parties are responsible for where we are today.....not individuals but parties........ i agree, i just wish the would quit fighting each other and work towards solving the problems, not creating more |
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Actually..........both parties are responsible for where we are today.....not individuals but parties........ I feel we are ALL responsible....irrespective of what country we reside....we all have one common address... Earth. |
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They could cover the entire Western desert in wind turbines and solar panels and it would STILL provide less than HALF of the power needed to run this country. That is not correct. On February 11, 2010, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory released the first comprehensive update of the wind energy potential by state since 1993, showing that the contiguous United States had potential to install 10,458,945 MW of onshore wind power.[17][18] The capacity could generate 37,000,000 gigawatt-hours (GWh) annually, an amount nine times larger than current total U.S. electricity consumption.[19] This amount is also larger than the total U.S. primary energy consumption of 29 PWh in 2005. Wind Power by State: Most new wind power capacity is being built in the Great Plains region of the United States, which has a favorable combination of characteristics: ample wind resources, an extensive rail and highway network for shipping outsized turbine components, flat topography which both improves the wind and makes turbine components easier to ship, and broad acceptance from local farmers and ranchers. New development in some locations, however, is being limited by lack of additional capacity to transmit power to locations where it can be used.[23] Other areas seeing wind development include the Pacific Northwest, the Upper Midwest, and the Northeast. The table below shows wind potential and installed capacity along with existing construction (through June 27, 2009). Kansas has high potential capacity for wind power, second behind Texas. The most recent estimates are that Kansas has a potential for 950 GW of wind power capacity yet has only about 1,000 MW installed. Kansas could generate 3,900 TW·h of electricity each year which represents nearly all the electricity generated from coal, natural gas and nuclear combined in the United States in 2008.[24] This electricity could be worth $340 billion per year (at 9.35 cents per kW·h[25]). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_the_United_States#cite_note-16 Of course, this is only for energy consumption, but oil will be still needed to produce plastic and we still don't have a reliable alternative fuel for vehicles. |
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I think your country has also bumped Chernobyl off the number one on the list for global impact man-made environmental disasters... In actuality, this time the company BP remains English owned, not American owned......and as far as our government.....well pumping there was approved and instituted under Bush when oil prices increased and the American people were upset over gas prices.......we complain they did its everyone involved fault.......that you can blame Bush for.......but either Bush, Obama or any other president only act to accomplish a goal, placate the American people, or cover a need.......we cannot rely on the governmeent to fix all the problems.......we as people have become too complacent Wanna know WHY they had to drill a few miles down?? The environuts. That's right friends and neighbors. Had the enviornazis not been so anal and thrown such a hissy fit about drilling for oil ( which, by the way, no matter HOW MUCH they don't like it is STILL a necessity ) in shallower waters, where, by the way, a spill or leak would have been MUCH easier to control orcap, we would have NEVER had this big of a problem go on for as long as it has. So go ahead and piss and moan about the environmental impact. The fact is, the ones who are now doing all the pissing and moaning are, in fact, the people that had a big hand in CAUSING the damn problem in the first place. But, hey, that's not what everyone wants to hear now is it?? Of course not. Let's not put any blame on the folks who FORCED BP and other companies to drill deeper than they have ever had to before. I do not absolve BP. There should have been contingency plans in place, equipment on hand, etc to be prepared. However. Since everyone seems to want to assign blame...let's make sure that ALL the people/groups who had a hand in causing it get their fair share. Must be a Reaganite. This is where it really began. He was for big business and now we have big excutives and china as our barbie. The very worst president this country has ever had. The Best actor though.. Baa Humbug |
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Jobless rate hit 14% in Nevada, highest in the country. We were the 3rd for awhile. Are still the highest mortgage collapse in the US. The jobless numbers are for those still able to collect unemployemnt ONLY. The few people I know who were collecting, they're payments stopped during the last 7 weeks. Just where do they think people are going to get $, or work? They started when this mess started, back in Sept 08 when we had a different President for 8 years, nice goodbye gift. 2 nights ago, another company laid off over 250 people. Last month, a poorly planned new place laid off 350. Greed, poor planning and poor state representation. Thanks Senator. It's a dam good thing you got kicked out of the primaries, yea, we wanted more of your parties wheeling dealing. Don't forget the significant role played by the Federal Reserve and Treasury in creating an environment of high inflation throughout the Clinton/Bush II regimes. Had Greenspan/Bernanke not been allowed to play God with the economy, the crash either wouldn't have happened or would have been much gentler (the variables being what foreign buyers and sellers do) |
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I think your country has also bumped Chernobyl off the number one on the list for global impact man-made environmental disasters... In actuality, this time the company BP remains English owned, not American owned......and as far as our government.....well pumping there was approved and instituted under Bush when oil prices increased and the American people were upset over gas prices.......we complain they did its everyone involved fault.......that you can blame Bush for.......but either Bush, Obama or any other president only act to accomplish a goal, placate the American people, or cover a need.......we cannot rely on the governmeent to fix all the problems.......we as people have become too complacent Wanna know WHY they had to drill a few miles down?? The environuts. That's right friends and neighbors. Had the enviornazis not been so anal and thrown such a hissy fit about drilling for oil ( which, by the way, no matter HOW MUCH they don't like it is STILL a necessity ) in shallower waters, where, by the way, a spill or leak would have been MUCH easier to control orcap, we would have NEVER had this big of a problem go on for as long as it has. So go ahead and piss and moan about the environmental impact. The fact is, the ones who are now doing all the pissing and moaning are, in fact, the people that had a big hand in CAUSING the damn problem in the first place. But, hey, that's not what everyone wants to hear now is it?? Of course not. Let's not put any blame on the folks who FORCED BP and other companies to drill deeper than they have ever had to before. I do not absolve BP. There should have been contingency plans in place, equipment on hand, etc to be prepared. However. Since everyone seems to want to assign blame...let's make sure that ALL the people/groups who had a hand in causing it get their fair share. Must be a Reaganite. This is where it really began. He was for big business and now we have big excutives and china as our barbie. The very worst president this country has ever had. The Best actor though.. Baa Humbug Reagan was pretty bad, but Wilson, FDR, Lincoln, and both Bushes were worse. If you want to know where it "really began", you have to go waaaay back to those various criminal politicians who created the Federal Reserve system and began the insane spending cycles (which naturally beget wars, btw). |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Jobless rate hit 14% in Nevada, highest in the country. We were the 3rd for awhile. Are still the highest mortgage collapse in the US. The jobless numbers are for those still able to collect unemployemnt ONLY. The few people I know who were collecting, they're payments stopped during the last 7 weeks. Just where do they think people are going to get $, or work? They started when this mess started, back in Sept 08 when we had a different President for 8 years, nice goodbye gift. 2 nights ago, another company laid off over 250 people. Last month, a poorly planned new place laid off 350. Greed, poor planning and poor state representation. Thanks Senator. It's a dam good thing you got kicked out of the primaries, yea, we wanted more of your parties wheeling dealing. Don't forget the significant role played by the Federal Reserve and Treasury in creating an environment of high inflation throughout the Clinton/Bush II regimes. Had Greenspan/Bernanke not been allowed to play God with the economy, the crash either wouldn't have happened or would have been much gentler (the variables being what foreign buyers and sellers do) Oh do not forget as they have us already forgetting that they snubbed a Federal Judges order for a Freedom of Information act warrant to turn over records of where 2 TRILLION dollars went that was un accounted for. While 787 Billion was escencially being given to them since they are who backs the banks 10 for 1 lending.. Thier answer.. Executive Priviledge.. Now where have we heard that before and Who's Daddy is on the Board of Directors. Do ya Know |
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