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Topic: Are you religious? Why?
onewickedcarnie's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:25 PM
Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.

onewickedcarnie's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:32 PM
By the way, this is not a topic open for debating others views. This is simply to share your own personal reasons, not to belittle others views or experiences. So please respect the other users and no bad mouthing.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:32 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Mon 06/28/10 09:55 PM
Sorry...just in a bad mood. I should go to bed. flowerforyou


Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:32 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 06/28/10 09:48 PM
I was raised Catholic on my dad's side and Baptist on my mom's side. I believe I am an atheist but have been told I am not because I believe in the power each life has over the environment and other lives around it at an energy level.

Why am I an atheist?

Because there is no logical, reasonable reason to believe in god. I usually tell people I use my brain too much for faith to even exist in there.

I also believe in ultimate self responsibility and although the idea of an entity having ultimate control in the end may be a comfort like allowing your parents to "fix" things for you, it is not being responsible for myself in my eyes.

Also, in my eyes the book used for Christianity is the most ambiguous horrendous attempt of a rendition from man showing a god that is in himself the complete list of all he claims is a sin.

Queene123's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:37 PM
Edited by Queene123 on Mon 06/28/10 09:38 PM
i was raised as a catholic
my dads parents his mom was a mormon and his dad was a catholic
and my mom parents were catholics

i havent been to church in quit awhile

i also studdied buddha. havent done that in many yrs

i didnt get my kids babtized for i couldnt promise to raise
them as catholic. of course my mom wasent happy about that

when my son was sick and we didnt know if he was going to make it..
my mom personally babtized him..

but i have my own personal belifes in the spiritual world
that can explain my profession

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:37 PM

Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I'm a follower of God cause it's almost obviouse he's there. The odds would be tremendousely low for all this to have been an accident. Not just the fact we're here but how every works cause of something else in the food chain.

I have felt the presence of God, greatest feeling i have EVER felt.

And i thank God every day that i'm still alive to this day. Was in a major car wrech.
-Broke my jaw in 5 places
-Sufficated
-Broke 4 ribs
-punctured a kidney, liver, and cut a lung a bit
-died for 40 minutes
-was in a coma for 4.5months

When i had died the docs thought it was the end, then while i was in the coma they said i would probably not come out and if i did i would be a vegetable.

There is absolutely no logical explanation for why i am here today functioning as properly as i do.

And yes i believed in God before my wrech, but my wrech and everything that went down really completely opened my eyes to our great heavenly father.

If the God i do not worship is the true God, then why didn't he just take me out? Because if there is a different God then i know then this God should have known i would never change my feelings for my God, so this God would not gain anything from keeping me here. Expecially since after my wrech i have LOT'S of spare time lol so i have dedicated my life to God. Every day and every second i can give to him because i'm not caught up in worldly things as a job or anything.

onewickedcarnie's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:39 PM
Edited by onewickedcarnie on Mon 06/28/10 09:41 PM
Your profile leads me to believe you are insincere in your questioning and so I choose not to answer.

You dont have to answer, but no need to insult. My profile is for the sake of humor. Sorry for the interruption all, please continue.

freeonthree's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:40 PM

Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


No, because there is no tangible scientific proof, supporting any god, and im big on solid proof, before i'll believe anything.

Queene123's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:43 PM


Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I'm a follower of God cause it's almost obviouse he's there. The odds would be tremendousely low for all this to have been an accident. Not just the fact we're here but how every works cause of something else in the food chain.

I have felt the presence of God, greatest feeling i have EVER felt.

And i thank God every day that i'm still alive to this day. Was in a major car wrech.
-Broke my jaw in 5 places
-Sufficated
-Broke 4 ribs
-punctured a kidney, liver, and cut a lung a bit
-died for 40 minutes
-was in a coma for 4.5months

When i had died the docs thought it was the end, then while i was in the coma they said i would probably not come out and if i did i would be a vegetable.

There is absolutely no logical explanation for why i am here today functioning as properly as i do.

And yes i believed in God before my wrech, but my wrech and everything that went down really completely opened my eyes to our great heavenly father.

If the God i do not worship is the true God, then why didn't he just take me out? Because if there is a different God then i know then this God should have known i would never change my feelings for my God, so this God would not gain anything from keeping me here. Expecially since after my wrech i have LOT'S of spare time lol so i have dedicated my life to God. Every day and every second i can give to him because i'm not caught up in worldly things as a job or anything.


my son had a nde(near death experience) a little over 2yrs ago
he had been sick a week before xmas and a few days later my mom took him to the doc and he was admited in the hospitol they rushed him into icu where he went into cardiac arrest. they had 3doc that had to revive him. he was in the hosptiol for 3weeks when he was released he had told my mom and my sister that he had seen the light and god.
he also stated he saw her mom(my grandmother) and she told him to go back and live with your grandma. he also saw my mom ex bf, my sister neighbor grandma
he was admited in the hospitol with pneumonia but he also had issue with his heart lungs and only kidney..

no photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:43 PM
onewickedcarnie - My friend has that same hat. It's a cool hat.



I was raised in an environment that supported me finding my own conclusions.

In a sense I am agnostic, but more realistically I just choose to believe what I want because I see no reason to do otherwise. What I choose to believe is that god is everything and everything is god.

Sort of the duality talked about in the Tao.

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:45 PM



Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I'm a follower of God cause it's almost obviouse he's there. The odds would be tremendousely low for all this to have been an accident. Not just the fact we're here but how every works cause of something else in the food chain.

I have felt the presence of God, greatest feeling i have EVER felt.

And i thank God every day that i'm still alive to this day. Was in a major car wrech.
-Broke my jaw in 5 places
-Sufficated
-Broke 4 ribs
-punctured a kidney, liver, and cut a lung a bit
-died for 40 minutes
-was in a coma for 4.5months

When i had died the docs thought it was the end, then while i was in the coma they said i would probably not come out and if i did i would be a vegetable.

There is absolutely no logical explanation for why i am here today functioning as properly as i do.

And yes i believed in God before my wrech, but my wrech and everything that went down really completely opened my eyes to our great heavenly father.

If the God i do not worship is the true God, then why didn't he just take me out? Because if there is a different God then i know then this God should have known i would never change my feelings for my God, so this God would not gain anything from keeping me here. Expecially since after my wrech i have LOT'S of spare time lol so i have dedicated my life to God. Every day and every second i can give to him because i'm not caught up in worldly things as a job or anything.


my son had a nde(near death experience) a little over 2yrs ago
he had been sick a week before xmas and a few days later my mom took him to the doc and he was admited in the hospitol they rushed him into icu where he went into cardiac arrest. they had 3doc that had to revive him. he was in the hosptiol for 3weeks when he was released he had told my mom and my sister that he had seen the light and god.
he also stated he saw her mom(my grandmother) and she told him to go back and live with your grandma. he also saw my mom ex bf, my sister neighbor grandma
he was admited in the hospitol with pneumonia but he also had issue with his heart lungs and only kidney..


Very incredible :)

Queene123's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:51 PM




Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I'm a follower of God cause it's almost obviouse he's there. The odds would be tremendousely low for all this to have been an accident. Not just the fact we're here but how every works cause of something else in the food chain.

I have felt the presence of God, greatest feeling i have EVER felt.

And i thank God every day that i'm still alive to this day. Was in a major car wrech.
-Broke my jaw in 5 places
-Sufficated
-Broke 4 ribs
-punctured a kidney, liver, and cut a lung a bit
-died for 40 minutes
-was in a coma for 4.5months

When i had died the docs thought it was the end, then while i was in the coma they said i would probably not come out and if i did i would be a vegetable.

There is absolutely no logical explanation for why i am here today functioning as properly as i do.

And yes i believed in God before my wrech, but my wrech and everything that went down really completely opened my eyes to our great heavenly father.

If the God i do not worship is the true God, then why didn't he just take me out? Because if there is a different God then i know then this God should have known i would never change my feelings for my God, so this God would not gain anything from keeping me here. Expecially since after my wrech i have LOT'S of spare time lol so i have dedicated my life to God. Every day and every second i can give to him because i'm not caught up in worldly things as a job or anything.


my son had a nde(near death experience) a little over 2yrs ago
he had been sick a week before xmas and a few days later my mom took him to the doc and he was admited in the hospitol they rushed him into icu where he went into cardiac arrest. they had 3doc that had to revive him. he was in the hosptiol for 3weeks when he was released he had told my mom and my sister that he had seen the light and god.
he also stated he saw her mom(my grandmother) and she told him to go back and live with your grandma. he also saw my mom ex bf, my sister neighbor grandma
he was admited in the hospitol with pneumonia but he also had issue with his heart lungs and only kidney..


Very incredible :)


my son is 23yrs old but with a mind capcity of a 12yr old
he has a disabilty that we both have actually didnt learn i had it untill 5yrs ago right before i went in for surgery.. didnt even know the name of his disabilty untill then. for no one said anything all we knew was he had missing chromazones and they were rare and they sent his studies to london...
hes my baby and pride and joy

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 06/28/10 09:57 PM





Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I'm a follower of God cause it's almost obviouse he's there. The odds would be tremendousely low for all this to have been an accident. Not just the fact we're here but how every works cause of something else in the food chain.

I have felt the presence of God, greatest feeling i have EVER felt.

And i thank God every day that i'm still alive to this day. Was in a major car wrech.
-Broke my jaw in 5 places
-Sufficated
-Broke 4 ribs
-punctured a kidney, liver, and cut a lung a bit
-died for 40 minutes
-was in a coma for 4.5months

When i had died the docs thought it was the end, then while i was in the coma they said i would probably not come out and if i did i would be a vegetable.

There is absolutely no logical explanation for why i am here today functioning as properly as i do.

And yes i believed in God before my wrech, but my wrech and everything that went down really completely opened my eyes to our great heavenly father.

If the God i do not worship is the true God, then why didn't he just take me out? Because if there is a different God then i know then this God should have known i would never change my feelings for my God, so this God would not gain anything from keeping me here. Expecially since after my wrech i have LOT'S of spare time lol so i have dedicated my life to God. Every day and every second i can give to him because i'm not caught up in worldly things as a job or anything.


my son had a nde(near death experience) a little over 2yrs ago
he had been sick a week before xmas and a few days later my mom took him to the doc and he was admited in the hospitol they rushed him into icu where he went into cardiac arrest. they had 3doc that had to revive him. he was in the hosptiol for 3weeks when he was released he had told my mom and my sister that he had seen the light and god.
he also stated he saw her mom(my grandmother) and she told him to go back and live with your grandma. he also saw my mom ex bf, my sister neighbor grandma
he was admited in the hospitol with pneumonia but he also had issue with his heart lungs and only kidney..


Very incredible :)


my son is 23yrs old but with a mind capcity of a 12yr old
he has a disabilty that we both have actually didnt learn i had it untill 5yrs ago right before i went in for surgery.. didnt even know the name of his disabilty untill then. for no one said anything all we knew was he had missing chromazones and they were rare and they sent his studies to london...
hes my baby and pride and joy


Keep strong with God. And always remember that with God ALL things are possible, no matter the logical probability of it ANYTHING is possible with God.


I will keep your family in my prayers :)

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Mon 06/28/10 10:26 PM
It's rather complicated for me. I feel that humans are proof of divine influence. What else could possibly justify our capacity for love, hate, and everything in between? Evolution all by itself is an inadequate answer. Clearly we are far beyond any other known living creature; too far to cite natural selection as the sole cause.

I was not raised to be religious, but for quite some time I was Christian by choice. Of all doctrines I was aware of, it seemed to carry the most positive message -- which is, despite all the complications in history and in scripture, basically "ask and you shall be forgiven." How merciful is it that even though we are all guilty of sin (some more than others, of course), we can enter the kingdom of heaven if only we would kneel before our creator? Is this not something worth rejoicing? Surely the only deity worth following is the one with whom you are guaranteed sanctuary. To my knowledge, no other faith offers such an immense promise.

But my personal convictions shall always generate conflicts with religion in general. When faced with the details, all the little rules, stories, judgments, et cetera, I have difficulty agreeing with a lot of ideas. How do I know that the words in front of me are really true, when my gut hesitates to swallow them? What about all the other people who possess beliefs vastly different, even opposite, from my own? Are -they- all wrong?

Ultimately the reason I turned down invitations to church, and began to question whether I was a true member of my faith, was due to feelings that I can only describe as loneliness. During worship, people sing songs that are supposed to be uplifting. But in hearing them, I felt very sad. When they say things like "He is the only one" they are referring to God as the one and only being that truly loves you. Through His love, we learn to love others. But if His is the only kind that is pure, what is the point of loving others at all? I don't want to judge the value of others by measure of their piety. I honestly don't care how much another soul loves God -- I only care that I love them, and that they love me. If we are sinners by nature, then let us sin together. Let us find joy and enlightenment not via our adherence to dogma, but in discovering the connections between ourselves. We shall become pure by our own volition.

After all, won't our glorious maker embrace us in the end?

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Mon 06/28/10 10:33 PM

It's rather complicated for me. I feel that humans are proof of divine influence. What else could possibly justify our capacity for love, hate, and everything in between? Evolution all by itself is an inadequate answer. Clearly we are far beyond any other known living creature; too far to cite natural selection as the sole cause.

I was not raised to be religious, but for quite some time I was Christian by choice. Of all doctrines I was aware of, it seemed to carry the most positive message -- which is, despite all the complications in history and in scripture, basically "ask and you shall be forgiven." How merciful is it that even though we are all guilty of sin (some more than others, of course), we can enter the kingdom of heaven if only we would kneel before our creator? Is this not something worth rejoicing? Surely the only deity worth following is the one with whom you are guaranteed sanctuary. To my knowledge, no other faith offers such an immense promise.




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Very touching man. Just wanted to give you props for saying that you don't specifically truely believe, but you're not totally denying the lord. I pray that you just keep looking into it open heartedly and let your heart mind and soul guide you. May God be with you brother and guide you in this long wild winding road we call life.

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Mon 06/28/10 11:37 PM

To my knowledge, no other faith offers such an immense promise.


Not meant to sound argumentative, but this is a pretty broad statement that basically shows a gross misunderstanding, or even a completely ignorance, of various other faiths.

Not meant as support for any particular faiths, but there are faiths in Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca, and even indigenous religions throughout the world that offer complete and total grace and sanctuary in the spiritual world. In fact, some of these don't even allow for the possibly of being rejected from such a fate. Many forms of Buddism basically presume that everyone will ultimately make "nirvana" in the end. It's just a matter of time.

So to suggest that no other faith offers such an immense promise seems to me to be assuming an aweful lot about various faiths that you obviously are either totally unware of, or have a gross misunderstanding of.

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Tue 06/29/10 12:02 AM

It's rather complicated for me. I feel that humans are proof of divine influence. What else could possibly justify our capacity for love, hate, and everything in between? Evolution all by itself is an inadequate answer. Clearly we are far beyond any other known living creature; too far to cite natural selection as the sole cause.

I was not raised to be religious, but for quite some time I was Christian by choice. Of all doctrines I was aware of, it seemed to carry the most positive message -- which is, despite all the complications in history and in scripture, basically "ask and you shall be forgiven." How merciful is it that even though we are all guilty of sin (some more than others, of course), we can enter the kingdom of heaven if only we would kneel before our creator? Is this not something worth rejoicing? Surely the only deity worth following is the one with whom you are guaranteed sanctuary. To my knowledge, no other faith offers such an immense promise.

But my personal convictions shall always generate conflicts with religion in general. When faced with the details, all the little rules, stories, judgments, et cetera, I have difficulty agreeing with a lot of ideas. How do I know that the words in front of me are really true, when my gut hesitates to swallow them? What about all the other people who possess beliefs vastly different, even opposite, from my own? Are -they- all wrong?

Ultimately the reason I turned down invitations to church, and began to question whether I was a true member of my faith, was due to feelings that I can only describe as loneliness. During worship, people sing songs that are supposed to be uplifting. But in hearing them, I felt very sad. When they say things like "He is the only one" they are referring to God as the one and only being that truly loves you. Through His love, we learn to love others. But if His is the only kind that is pure, what is the point of loving others at all? I don't want to judge the value of others by measure of their piety. I honestly don't care how much another soul loves God -- I only care that I love them, and that they love me. If we are sinners by nature, then let us sin together. Let us find joy and enlightenment not via our adherence to dogma, but in discovering the connections between ourselves. We shall become pure by our own volition.

After all, won't our glorious maker embrace us in the end?


No, if you don't believe in, and worship him, he will make you spend an eternity in hell, where you will burn and scream with pain for ever, but he loves you ! bigsmile

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Tue 06/29/10 12:42 AM
I dont know that I am religious or not. I strive to live a Christian life in accordance with the lessons, parables, history, and sermons of the bible. Since it is the holy bible which plays such a large part in my life, Id say that would make me fit into the category of a christian.

It may seem overly simplistic to some, but my belief in christ and the word of the Bible lies in the faith and trust I have in those who have guided me . My belief is reinforced by the reflection of how they live their own lives and the consequence (both positive and negative) which I observe following their choices. My belief is reinforced by the consistency and in depth details of the bible. My belief is reinforced by witnessing in this life things prophecied in the bible and witnessing the truthfulness of how the Bible explains actions and their consequences.


I think ,like any other belief people have, mine makes sense to me and what I observe in life only reinforces those things my faith has taught me throughout my life.

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Tue 06/29/10 01:34 AM
Freeonthree, I would ask that you do not attack the views of the ones that post their affiliation and reason for it. This is welcome to those who are religious and those that are not. I would kindly ask that if you are to post, then please simply state your affiliation and your personal reason for it.

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Tue 06/29/10 03:35 AM
Are you religious? Why?


1. Yes.

2. It's philosophically satisfying.

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