Topic: Are you religious? Why?
msharmony's photo
Tue 06/29/10 03:41 AM

Are you religious? Why?


1. Yes.

2. It's philosophically satisfying.



lol, short and to the point

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 06/29/10 11:02 AM

Are you religious? Why?


1. Yes.

2. It's philosophically satisfying.


Ditto. drinker

I'm finding much satisfaction in my religious practices.


toastedoranges's photo
Tue 06/29/10 11:05 AM
< not religious

rather not get into why or why not, nicer this way

Foliel's photo
Wed 06/30/10 11:13 PM
I am not a true atheist but i also am not religious.

There are reasons for why I am not religious, I just don't want to discuss them.

I am like freeonthree, I don't do anything on faith alone.

no photo
Thu 07/01/10 10:52 AM

Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


No. I have no need for any belief system. I was raised w/o any belief system, and to my parents credit, I was allowed to experience any I wished to. I began going to various church services at age 12. Never once did I feel anything other than astonishment that people actually believed that silly superstitious nonsense. Well, astonishment and sadness. Sadness that so much of humanity's resources were wasted on it.
To this day, I have no real understanding of what others call faith.
Although I do not believe in a godthing, I do not say there can't be one. But I will believe only in what evidence shows to be true.
I was once asked what it would take for me to believe in God. After some thought, I remembered a line from Carl Sagan. If PI could be calculated out far enough that the didgits all turned into 0's and 1's, which when lined up 40 digits across, made the picture of a circle, that would be proof the universe was created. The only way that COULD work would be if that was built into the universe.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 07/02/10 04:04 PM
What if the Fibonacci Golden Ratio could be expressed as a simple continued fraction of the form: One plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus,...

Forever?

Wouldn't that be evidence for a creator? spock

no photo
Sat 07/03/10 08:18 AM

What if the Fibonacci Golden Ratio could be expressed as a simple continued fraction of the form: One plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus,...

Forever?

Wouldn't that be evidence for a creator? spock


Perhaps you mean the Fibonacci Sequence and the Golden Ratio. Which are 2 different, although related, things.
And no, on both counts. Obviously.

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 07/03/10 08:20 AM
Yes, I am religious. Because I like it.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 07/03/10 08:40 AM
I'm not part of any religion...I do however have (with the meaning of religious) religious practices I do, they are very spiritual and satisfying to me.
So yes..with what 'religious" means , I would be religious because it works for me, and as Ruth said...I like it.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/03/10 09:37 AM
religious? no
do i believe in a god? yes

why? i don't like organized religion, i think they strayed away from what god really wants.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/03/10 09:38 AM

What if the Fibonacci Golden Ratio could be expressed as a simple continued fraction of the form: One plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus,...

Forever?

Wouldn't that be evidence for a creator? spock



i thought you had your forums pages to try to convert?

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 07/03/10 10:28 AM

Perhaps you mean the Fibonacci Sequence and the Golden Ratio. Which are 2 different, although related, things.
And no, on both counts. Obviously.


Obviously? huh

I take it that you have an "obvious" explanation for this then?

Care to share? spock

Totage's photo
Sat 07/03/10 11:14 AM

Exactly as the header reads. Are you religious/not religious? You dont have to state your specific religion if not wanted to, a simple yes or no can suffice. What is your personal reason for coming to your decision? Because whatever book says so can be used but obviously there would be a personal reason for believing whatever book was true due to personal account, same for non-religious also, simply stating that a book is a lie can be used, but obviously theres personal level as to why it was determined.


I am. Because it is proven to me daily to be true.

no photo
Sat 07/03/10 01:28 PM


Perhaps you mean the Fibonacci Sequence and the Golden Ratio. Which are 2 different, although related, things.
And no, on both counts. Obviously.


Obviously? huh

I take it that you have an "obvious" explanation for this then?

Care to share? spock


laugh
A little slow today? I keed I keed
Obviously because I know what they are and yet I still don't believe in a godthing. sheesh...
But hey, at least you've managed to keep your response to a succinct few words. kudos.
And the explanation you seem to be looking for is the same for why 1+1=2. Math is fun, isn't it. An interesting equation is, well, interesting, but hardly proof of a godthing. Now give me a non-repeating non-terminating calculation, say like PI, that begins repeating w/ one's and zero's that when lined up forms a picture related to what the equation is describing and that's something else entirely.

SECURITEH's photo
Thu 07/08/10 03:47 PM
Are you religious? Why?

The simple answer is no, because there never has been a reason to believe there is.

This doesn't mean I am not interested in religion tho as I am, but more for educational purposes. After I finish reading Das Kapital I will start reading the Bible and after that I will read the Koran simply because I am interested in the subjects itself. :)

Personally I really like the theory of the Akashic records purely because I love the actual idea, I do not actually believe it is true once again because I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Many atheists I speak to in RL seem to think religion is a bad thing and while I agree it does cause certain types of people to lose there own ability to think and make decisions it also brings allot of trust, happiness and strength to people. It also sets a couple of general rules for human being to live by which I believe are in general standards each human should live by to make this world a better place for all to live in which is a respectable goal on itself. :)

no photo
Fri 07/09/10 08:29 PM

What if the Fibonacci Golden Ratio could be expressed as a simple continued fraction of the form: One plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus one over one plus,...

Forever?

Wouldn't that be evidence for a creator? spock


No, absolutely not. It would simple by a case of a specific ratio, whose definition involves a kind of recursive symmetry, having an formula that also has some recursive symmetry. Now, I would go with the notion (was it Sagan?) that a discernible code embedded in pi or e could be evidence of a creator.


no photo
Fri 07/09/10 08:46 PM

I take it that you have an "obvious" explanation for this then?


I'm curious what kind of explanation are you looking for?

If we define GR = (x + y) / x = x / y,

then 1 / GR = GR - 1 by direct substitution.

and therefore GR = 1 + 1/GR.

Now recursive substitution gives you that nice form you mentioned.

In other words, it follows directly from the definition of the golden ratio.

Inkracer's photo
Fri 07/09/10 08:47 PM
I am not religious, and can't really say I've ever been, despite being raised in a christian household. I am atheist, in that I don't believe, or see a need for a supernatural entity. I am also an anti-theist, since I believe that religion is detrimental to the progress of humanity.

no photo
Fri 07/09/10 08:48 PM
Now give me a non-repeating non-terminating calculation, say like PI, that begins repeating w/ one's and zero's that when lined up forms a picture related to what the equation is describing and that's something else entirely.


drinker Hadn't read this before I posted above.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 07/09/10 09:23 PM

I am also an anti-theist, since I believe that religion is detrimental to the progress of humanity.


Unfortuantely this is so true of so many of the popular religions. They are indeed detrimental to the progress of humanity in general, as well as deterimental to the personal growth of individuals.

Christianity has been the single most destructive force in my entire life without a doubt. As far as I'm concerned it's every bit as deadly and devastating as cancer. It's a cancer of the mind and spirit.

For this reason, I do am extremely anti-thesis, in some cases. I would gladly give my own life to stamp out Christianity for the benefit of others.

Sadly it can't be made to go away so easily. It will be the ruin of many a poor soul for many years to come I imagine.

However, getting back to the main theme, this is definitely not true of all religions and spiritualities. There are religions and spiritualities out there that are actually quite beneficial for both the individual and humanity as a whole. Unfortunately due to the gross damage caused by religions like Christianity it's probably hopeless to even attempt to salvage the truly good spiritualities.

So many people have been so totally turned off to religion in general by Christianity. And I for one, don't blame them in the least. It's been a curse on humanity for far too many millennia.

We're probably better off with atheism, although I personally feel that atheism has it's own negative affect on humanity as well. Especially when it's being held out as the only "intelligent" option. That does nothing but give it the same sort of judgemental bigotry that Christianity was infamous for.

Either become an "atheist" or be shunned by society as being an idiot who can't tell the difference between reality and superstition.

Carry that to its extreme and you just have something that's every bit as negative as Christianity only in the reverse direction. whoa