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Topic: Retarded Female executed,,,
msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:21 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/24/10 10:22 AM
meant to post EXECUTED, hit the wrong key sorry,,,



this is so sad,,,,such a HUMANE culture the west is,,,,


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-looked-frightened-entered-death-chamber/story?id=11718082


how is it justified that she dies and those able bodied persons who pulled the trigger get LIFE? the just us system is amazing in its inconsistency sometimes,,,

TJN's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:42 AM

meant to post EXECUTED, hit the wrong key sorry,,,



this is so sad,,,,such a HUMANE culture the west is,,,,


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-looked-frightened-entered-death-chamber/story?id=11718082


how is it justified that she dies and those able bodied persons who pulled the trigger get LIFE? the just us system is amazing in its inconsistency sometimes,,,


But he found she had engaged in the "cold blooded, pitiless slaying of two men, horrible and inhumane." And that she had done it for profit, searching her husband's wallet for money as he lay dying.

She had an IQ of 72. They wont give someone the death penalty if the IQ is 70 or less.

I feel no simpathy and saying she is retarded in the OP is misleading.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:46 AM


meant to post EXECUTED, hit the wrong key sorry,,,



this is so sad,,,,such a HUMANE culture the west is,,,,


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-looked-frightened-entered-death-chamber/story?id=11718082


how is it justified that she dies and those able bodied persons who pulled the trigger get LIFE? the just us system is amazing in its inconsistency sometimes,,,


But he found she had engaged in the "cold blooded, pitiless slaying of two men, horrible and inhumane." And that she had done it for profit, searching her husband's wallet for money as he lay dying.

She had an IQ of 72. They wont give someone the death penalty if the IQ is 70 or less.

I feel no simpathy and saying she is retarded in the OP is misleading.



depends upon whom you ask I guess

'Intellectual functioning, or IQ, is usually measured by an IQ test. The average IQ score is, by definition, 100. People scoring below 70 to 75 on the IQ test are considered to have mental retardation.'

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20174


basically, with that IQ, she was about as responsible and culpable as a 12 year old throwing a fit and asking adults to kill other adults,,,,,no WAY she deserved a harsher penalty than the able bodied adults who committed the crime

IMHO

EquusDancer's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:56 AM
I agree with your comment about the ones who actually did it only getting life, but disagree on whether IQ should even have a bearing. Even if it is a 12 year old "throwing a fit". Death is death. Put them down.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:56 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 09/24/10 10:56 AM
The death penalty here is no different from stoning/beheading/firing squad/etc... elsewhere.

It makes us humans animalistic, barbaric and uncouth.

TJN's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:57 AM



meant to post EXECUTED, hit the wrong key sorry,,,



this is so sad,,,,such a HUMANE culture the west is,,,,


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-looked-frightened-entered-death-chamber/story?id=11718082


how is it justified that she dies and those able bodied persons who pulled the trigger get LIFE? the just us system is amazing in its inconsistency sometimes,,,


But he found she had engaged in the "cold blooded, pitiless slaying of two men, horrible and inhumane." And that she had done it for profit, searching her husband's wallet for money as he lay dying.

She had an IQ of 72. They wont give someone the death penalty if the IQ is 70 or less.

I feel no simpathy and saying she is retarded in the OP is misleading.



depends upon whom you ask I guess

'Intellectual functioning, or IQ, is usually measured by an IQ test. The average IQ score is, by definition, 100. People scoring below 70 to 75 on the IQ test are considered to have mental retardation.'

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20174


basically, with that IQ, she was about as responsible and culpable as a 12 year old throwing a fit and asking adults to kill other adults,,,,,no WAY she deserved a harsher penalty than the able bodied adults who committed the crime

IMHO

If she was foind mentaly unstable to stand trial then she wouldn't have. Obviously her mental health was good enough to stand trial and found guilty.

She knew what she was doing. Having a low IQ doesn't mean she didn't know right from wrong. And comparing her to a 12 year old is wrong she had more life experiance than a 12 year old.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 10:59 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/24/10 11:00 AM

I agree with your comment about the ones who actually did it only getting life, but disagree on whether IQ should even have a bearing. Even if it is a 12 year old "throwing a fit". Death is death. Put them down.



Death is death but circumstances do indeed change the legal definitions and consequences. Self defense that leads to death is treated differently than premeditated acts of violence which lead to death and those are different from accidents ,,,etc,,

the day we treat children equally in all areas of law, I might agree, but I dont think children ARE equal to adults and so far neither does the law.


children are not RESPONSIBLE if they decide to have sex with an adult, because society expects the ADULT to know better

if a child entices and ADULT to kill, the same should hold true

Seakolony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 11:30 AM

The death penalty here is no different from stoning/beheading/firing squad/etc... elsewhere.

It makes us humans animalistic, barbaric and uncouth.

The difference my dear is the method and trust me and I dont know about you, but I would prefer firing squad hanging electric chair lethal injection which considered youth in asia quick methods over being beaten and stoned to death...........so we should keep all criminals even the most heinous crimes imaginable, alive in the penal system and feed and clothe them forever...........absurd............

Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/24/10 11:36 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 09/24/10 11:37 AM
It all ends the same.

Murder is never right not even when the government does it.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 11:36 AM




meant to post EXECUTED, hit the wrong key sorry,,,



this is so sad,,,,such a HUMANE culture the west is,,,,


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-looked-frightened-entered-death-chamber/story?id=11718082


how is it justified that she dies and those able bodied persons who pulled the trigger get LIFE? the just us system is amazing in its inconsistency sometimes,,,


But he found she had engaged in the "cold blooded, pitiless slaying of two men, horrible and inhumane." And that she had done it for profit, searching her husband's wallet for money as he lay dying.

She had an IQ of 72. They wont give someone the death penalty if the IQ is 70 or less.

I feel no simpathy and saying she is retarded in the OP is misleading.



depends upon whom you ask I guess

'Intellectual functioning, or IQ, is usually measured by an IQ test. The average IQ score is, by definition, 100. People scoring below 70 to 75 on the IQ test are considered to have mental retardation.'

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20174


basically, with that IQ, she was about as responsible and culpable as a 12 year old throwing a fit and asking adults to kill other adults,,,,,no WAY she deserved a harsher penalty than the able bodied adults who committed the crime

IMHO

If she was foind mentaly unstable to stand trial then she wouldn't have. Obviously her mental health was good enough to stand trial and found guilty.

She knew what she was doing. Having a low IQ doesn't mean she didn't know right from wrong. And comparing her to a 12 year old is wrong she had more life experiance than a 12 year old.


kids stand trial to, and its not the years in your life its the life in your years which count,,,,but beside the point of the inconsistency I speak of,,,,,even if a 12 year old was aware of right and wrong, certainly their LIMITED emotional and in tellectual capacity wouldnt justify a court holding them to a higher standard of culpability for ENTICING someone than it would hold the actual ADULT (minded) person who committed the murder

smokeybette's photo
Fri 09/24/10 11:41 AM
retarded? come on, that's just wrong. mentally challenged is the
the correct term.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 11:43 AM

retarded? come on, that's just wrong. mentally challenged is the
the correct term.



hey , I got it from a medical dictionary,,,albeit an online one,,

TJN's photo
Fri 09/24/10 12:28 PM
kids stand trial to, and its not the years in your life its the life in your years which count,,,,but beside the point of the inconsistency I speak of,,,,,even if a 12 year old was aware of right and wrong, certainly their LIMITED emotional and in tellectual capacity wouldnt justify a court holding them to a higher standard of culpability for ENTICING someone than it would hold the actual ADULT (minded) person who committed the murder


She is an adult. Not a 12 year old.
Just because someones IQ is the same as a 12 year olds as you compared hers to doesn't mean that she has the mentality of a 12 year old.

I'm sure she was deemed mentally stable by a psychiatrist other wise she would have never gone to trial and been found guilty.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 12:46 PM

kids stand trial to, and its not the years in your life its the life in your years which count,,,,but beside the point of the inconsistency I speak of,,,,,even if a 12 year old was aware of right and wrong, certainly their LIMITED emotional and in tellectual capacity wouldnt justify a court holding them to a higher standard of culpability for ENTICING someone than it would hold the actual ADULT (minded) person who committed the murder


She is an adult. Not a 12 year old.
Just because someones IQ is the same as a 12 year olds as you compared hers to doesn't mean that she has the mentality of a 12 year old.

I'm sure she was deemed mentally stable by a psychiatrist other wise she would have never gone to trial and been found guilty.



and what of her getting a death penalty but not the adults with full mental capacity who pulled the trigger?

TJN's photo
Fri 09/24/10 12:49 PM


kids stand trial to, and its not the years in your life its the life in your years which count,,,,but beside the point of the inconsistency I speak of,,,,,even if a 12 year old was aware of right and wrong, certainly their LIMITED emotional and in tellectual capacity wouldnt justify a court holding them to a higher standard of culpability for ENTICING someone than it would hold the actual ADULT (minded) person who committed the murder


She is an adult. Not a 12 year old.
Just because someones IQ is the same as a 12 year olds as you compared hers to doesn't mean that she has the mentality of a 12 year old.

I'm sure she was deemed mentally stable by a psychiatrist other wise she would have never gone to trial and been found guilty.



and what of her getting a death penalty but not the adults with full mental capacity who pulled the trigger?


That's the decision of the judge and jury.

I believe all 3 should have gotten the death penalty.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/24/10 12:50 PM



kids stand trial to, and its not the years in your life its the life in your years which count,,,,but beside the point of the inconsistency I speak of,,,,,even if a 12 year old was aware of right and wrong, certainly their LIMITED emotional and in tellectual capacity wouldnt justify a court holding them to a higher standard of culpability for ENTICING someone than it would hold the actual ADULT (minded) person who committed the murder


She is an adult. Not a 12 year old.
Just because someones IQ is the same as a 12 year olds as you compared hers to doesn't mean that she has the mentality of a 12 year old.

I'm sure she was deemed mentally stable by a psychiatrist other wise she would have never gone to trial and been found guilty.



and what of her getting a death penalty but not the adults with full mental capacity who pulled the trigger?


That's the decision of the judge and jury.

I believe all 3 should have gotten the death penalty.



I will never believe in the death penalty and the only time I can conceive of how others can stomach it is when someone has actually taken a life THEMSELF,


enticing someone to do it shouldn't count, unless its done under extreme duress

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/24/10 04:00 PM
I have NO sympathy for a disgusting human being that has her husband and step son killed so she can collect their life insurance policy..

Disgusting.. doesn't quite fit what I really think, but I'll leave it at that..

metalwing's photo
Fri 09/24/10 04:31 PM
The woman wasn't a child, she was an adult.
The state set IQ limits and she was above the limit.
The laws of the state were followed.
There are few crimes considered more heinous than murder for hire.
She caused the death of her own family which is worse than killing someone you don't know.

Justice was done.
The only injustice that apparently was done is that all parties didn't get the death penalty. Now the taxpayer will have to support more criminals who have no place in our society.

Making out this woman to be anything other than a vile excuse for a human being is a vast distortion of the facts.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 09/24/10 04:34 PM

I agree with your comment about the ones who actually did it only getting life, but disagree on whether IQ should even have a bearing. Even if it is a 12 year old "throwing a fit". Death is death. Put them down.


don't kill a gator but kill children?
nice values...

Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/24/10 04:35 PM
Murder is not justice to an intelligent being.noway

Even state sanctioned murder is still murder.whoa

It shows how ignorant human kind still is.slaphead

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