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It's getting easier for me to see now why Democrats fought civil rights laws in the past. that is just stupid the democratic party WAS the civil rights party - always has been |
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Islamic Court, Wife Beating: UAE (United Arab Emirates) Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58&feature=player_embedded UAE Islamic Court, Wife Beating: United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks (Cuts & Bruises) The United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court has given official permission for men to beat their wives in line with Islamic tradition. A man may beat his wife and young children as long as the beating leaves no physical marks. This follows on the heels of prominent Islamic scholars who have voiced similar opinions. It might be pointed out that even in Western society wife beating was legal in some circumstances and locations in the United States for example until explicitly outlawed in 1870. The UAE ruling specifies that no physical marks may be left, though this leaves open questions of the degree that this entails. This is in contrast to a UAE case in which a man who left cuts & bruises on wife & adult daughter which was ruled criminal, specifically “guilty of harming” the women, but not of the disciplinary action itself. Posted on October 19th, 2010 http://www.supermediablog.com/news/islamic-court-wife-beating-uae-united-arab-emirates-federal-supreme-court-leaves-no-physical-marks/ In Africa in certain countries, witch hunting is just another thing. They throw the women accused of witchcraft into a pit filled with hay and turn them on fire and watch them burn alive. United States is not invading Africa and there aren't "spreading democracy" there. In Papua New Guinea, cannibalism is still around. Sometimes they eat the recently deceased. United States is not invading New Guinea, to spread democracy. In Cambodia, there is an ongoing war against Thailand, where schools are torched along with the students because they "represent the Thai government". United States in not invading Cambodia to spread democracy. . .. ... .... ...... The United Arab Emirates, along with Saudi Arabia are considered "friendly" with USA, even Bush had a nice tongue kiss with the Saudi ruler back in 2003. How ironic. The only reason you continue to post issues related to the Middle East is because of your hatred against Muslims, it has little to do with human rights violation or anything like that, it's just easy to pick on an issue such as their law system, which is flawed by all means, but I doubt you really care about Arab women's human rights anyway, since they are "Muslims", just like the men there, so I really doubt that you care at all anyway, so it's good to selectively find news about the Muslims, because it's alien to you and you are just afraid. Make sure you check under your bed before you go to sleep, there might be a Muslim hiding there trying to kill you. This is about hatred???What a cop out statement!The fact that Willing started this post to begin with shows he is concerned about the fact that women are being beaten and wants things changed.Before you take action on issues such as these you first have the make the public aware that they are happening.The fact you are using third world countries laws in defending this practice doesn't justify anything.I don't think men should be allowed to beat their women anywhere in the world for any reason.I don't want to play big brother police man for the world but I can speak my voice and opposition for this practice and tell the world I don't support it. I'm sure I speak for everyone who is against this beating law when I say if someone wanted to ban this practice I would gladly vote for it along with banning Sharia law no matter what country it is practiced.That is taking action and thanks to people like Willing we are aware of laws such as Sharia and what they are about. These issues don't have anything to do with spreading Democracy.They are about what is right and wrong.Treating women like garbage and beating them for any excuse is wrong.The fact that Islam is the main driving force for these laws is stupid to ignore. I can only imagine how those women feel under Islamic law in third world countries who have the privilege of a computer and internet.How sad it must be for them to read statements from Americans saying beatings should be allowed because you are there and we are here.Seems Republican Christians are their best hope because Atheist,liberal,Democrats sure the hell aren't even going to bring the issue to light.They want to bury it. |
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It's getting easier for me to see now why Democrats fought civil rights laws in the past. that is just stupid the democratic party WAS the civil rights party - always has been read your history...the republicans were the ones in favor of abolishing slavery, not the democrats |
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It's getting easier for me to see now why Democrats fought civil rights laws in the past. that is just stupid the democratic party WAS the civil rights party - always has been You don't know you history too well do you? July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free” January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition April 8, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition November 22, 1865 Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination February 5, 1866 U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves April 9, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law May 10, 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no June 8, 1866 U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no January 8, 1867 Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C. July 19, 1867 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans March 30, 1868 Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men” September 3, 1868 25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress September 12, 1868 Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress October 7, 1868 Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule” October 22, 1868 While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan December 10, 1869 Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office February 3, 1870 After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race May 31, 1870 President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights June 22, 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South September 6, 1870 Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell February 28, 1871 Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans October 10, 1871 Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands October 18, 1871 After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan November 18, 1872 Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight” January 17, 1874 Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government September 14, 1874 Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed May 29, 1902 Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86% February 12, 1909 On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP May 21, 1919 Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no August 18, 1920 Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures January 26, 1922 House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster June 2, 1924 Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans October 3, 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention June 12, 1929 First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country August 17, 1937 Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation June 24, 1940 Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it September 30, 1953 Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate June 10, 1964 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed. August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law |
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The only abuse my women get is a good old fashioned shlonging!!
 My "wife beater" is part of my body, and they love getting beat in the face with it  |
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This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* sorry, sweetest, but my whole point of saying that was because i was a little miffed that some women here seems to think it is ok for these men to beat their wives... did not mean to offend you |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?  only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, So if you were in a relationship with a man and he started hitting and slapping you for any number of reasons you would be ok with it? |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, think about it like this ... if you are in a place where it is legal, who can you turn to for help? they are treated worse than slaves, and totally subservient to men... they can get beat them more just for the woman asking him to stop... |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, So if you were in a relationship with a man and he started hitting and slapping you for any number of reasons you would be ok with it? thats a bit personal, I will just say, although I would never condone a punch or an all out assault, I have had partners with whom I understood things would occasionally be 'rough' never caused me hospitalization or bruises though, as I said , one persons aggressive play is anothers discipline and yet anothers abuse,, its about personal tolerance and it should remain a personal choice,,, imho |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, think about it like this ... if you are in a place where it is legal, who can you turn to for help? they are treated worse than slaves, and totally subservient to men... they can get beat them more just for the woman asking him to stop... I believe there are numerous subcultures of the Islamic faith. I know a few muslim women and they are not at all upset with their 'role'. i do feel for women in truly abusive relationships whatever culture they are a part of. But I just dont necessarily see consentual submission or even discipline as a terrible thing. |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, think about it like this ... if you are in a place where it is legal, who can you turn to for help? they are treated worse than slaves, and totally subservient to men... they can get beat them more just for the woman asking him to stop... I believe there are numerous subcultures of the Islamic faith. I know a few muslim women and they are not at all upset with their 'role'. i do feel for women in truly abusive relationships whatever culture they are a part of. But I just dont necessarily see consensual submission or even discipline as a terrible thing. |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, think about it like this ... if you are in a place where it is legal, who can you turn to for help? they are treated worse than slaves, and totally subservient to men... they can get beat them more just for the woman asking him to stop... I believe there are numerous subcultures of the Islamic faith. I know a few muslim women and they are not at all upset with their 'role'. i do feel for women in truly abusive relationships whatever culture they are a part of. But I just dont necessarily see consensual submission or even discipline as a terrible thing. and? I was spanked as a child, if it is a culture which places an authoritarian role on the male, as our culture does on the parents, I dont see the difference or the reason to be apalled UNLESS it is truly ABUSIVE (beating, punching, kicking,, etc,,,) as someone else posted, the ruling didnt give permission to do anything so extreme it would leave marks,,,which leaves alot of disciplinary options that I dont consider ABUSIVE |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, So if you were in a relationship with a man and he started hitting and slapping you for any number of reasons you would be ok with it? thats a bit personal, I will just say, although I would never condone a punch or an all out assault, I have had partners with whom I understood things would occasionally be 'rough' never caused me hospitalization or bruises though, as I said , one persons aggressive play is anothers discipline and yet anothers abuse,, its about personal tolerance and it should remain a personal choice,,, imho I don't think too many women would agree that getting beat by their husbands was a good form of discipline much like the millions of children that were beat when they were little.If they do think they should get slapped around they probably have a wide variety of mental problems as any person who deals in Domestic violence will tell you.I think most experts will also tell you that Domestic violence nearly always progresses to more and more abuse that gets more violent as time goes by until the woman is getting used like a punching bag. But this whole issue isn't about choice since we are talking about men beating their wives for any reason despite if the woman agrees with it or not.Furthermore since Islamic women in third world countries often wear full length dresses and head to toe Burqas a man could beat their women black and blue except the face and nobody is going to see it. |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, think about it like this ... if you are in a place where it is legal, who can you turn to for help? they are treated worse than slaves, and totally subservient to men... they can get beat them more just for the woman asking him to stop... I believe there are numerous subcultures of the Islamic faith. I know a few muslim women and they are not at all upset with their 'role'. i do feel for women in truly abusive relationships whatever culture they are a part of. But I just dont necessarily see consensual submission or even discipline as a terrible thing. and? I was spanked as a child, if it is a culture which places an authoritarian role on the male, as our culture does on the parents, I dont see the difference or the reason to be apalled UNLESS it is truly ABUSIVE (beating, punching, kicking,, etc,,,) as someone else posted, the ruling didnt give permission to do anything so extreme it would leave marks,,,which leaves alot of disciplinary options that I dont consider ABUSIVE |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,,
of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,, of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm Nice insight.I remember when I was a child getting slapped on the side of the head with a belt,things thrown at me,and called names.I can tell you first hand those things did leave permanent psychological harm that will never leave me.I speak out against these idiotic laws because I know what it is like to get beat for simply getting in someones way when they were in a bad mood. |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,, of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm Nice insight.I remember when I was a child getting slapped on the side of the head with a belt,things thrown at me,and called names.I can tell you first hand those things did leave permanent psychological harm that will never leave me.I speak out against these idiotic laws because I know what it is like to get beat for simply getting in someones way when they were in a bad mood. that means you felt ABUSED(rightly so if you were hit in the head and called names, I never was), but I did not,,,,which is a matter of PERSPECTIVE only thing I would change in Islamic subcultures is the threat of violence against those who dont choose to accept it as their birthright, I would wish for the culture to be more truly voluntary, but I think many westerners ASSUME that women there want to be more 'free'(by our standards) when I feel its logical that many muslim women are quite happy with the standards they have known and grown up with,,, and I cringe when we, or anyone else, try to define those standards for them and make western life the and western culture some IDEAL that they should be striving for |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,, of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm Nice insight.I remember when I was a child getting slapped on the side of the head with a belt,things thrown at me,and called names.I can tell you first hand those things did leave permanent psychological harm that will never leave me.I speak out against these idiotic laws because I know what it is like to get beat for simply getting in someones way when they were in a bad mood. that means you felt ABUSED(rightly so if you were hit in the head and called names, I never was), but I did not,,,,which is a matter of PERSPECTIVE only thing I would change in Islamic subcultures is the threat of violence against those who dont choose to accept it as their birthright, I would wish for the culture to be more truly voluntary, but I think many westerners ASSUME that women there want to be more 'free'(by our standards) when I feel its logical that many muslim women are quite happy with the standards they have known and grown up with,,, and I cringe when we, or anyone else, try to define those standards for them and make western life the and western culture some IDEAL that they should be striving for I think history concerning womens rights around the world will tell you that women never resort to having less rights,less freedoms,and less dignity once they get more rights.What kind of stupid person would?All those women in Iraq certainly don't want the life they had before where the only job they could hold is that of a school teacher.No voting rights?you think they want that back again? All those sad women living under a Burqa would give anything to live the life of a American women. |
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IMPACT ON CHILDREN According to the Family Violence Prevention Fund, "growing up in a violent home may be a terrifying and traumatic experience that can affect every aspect of a child's life, growth and development. . . . children who have been exposed to family violence suffer symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, such as bed-wetting or nightmares, and were at greater risk than their peers of having allergies, asthma, gastrointestinal problems, headaches and flu." In addition, women who experience physcial abuse as children are at a greater risk of victimization as adults, and men have a far greater (more than double) likelihood of perpetrating abuse. Interesting as I grew up in a violent home and have gastrointestinal problems. =O |
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