When you die do you die?

If you are not living life are you dead?

If you are living life death is not important.

life is.

enjoy it.

amen, life is the most valuable thing ever. There's not enough money on the earth that can buy a life. It's priceless, enjoy it.

When you die do you die?

If you are not living life are you dead?

If you are living life death is not important.

life is.

enjoy it.

CowboyGH wrote:






thats not true .. money can buy you life - doctors , meds , care etc .etc...

that's not true. Money can buy you something to repair yourself in this life, but it can not originally buy the life.

CowboyGH wrote:






Without this "repair" we call ppl "dead".

Yes but money didn't originally by that life, so therefore the money never bout you any life. Merely repaired your body to possibly lengthen that life.

Yes but money didn't originally by that life, so therefore the money never bout you any life. Merely repaired your body to possibly lengthen that life.

Dies only our body ...our true personality aka "soul" is immortal and we back again and again until we get all lessons here in the Earth "packing" in different bodies

There is no logic to live so short and to be dead forever.
If we face the facts we gonna see that all in this world /visible and invisible/ subordinate to an amazing logic...
and there is no way our life to end so meaningless

amen, life is the most valuable thing ever. There's not enough money on the earth that can buy a life. It's priceless, enjoy it.

thats not true .. money can buy you life - doctors , meds , care etc .etc...

that's not true. Money can buy you something to repair yourself in this life, but it can not originally buy the life.

CowboyGH wrote:


And besides all that, if God said it was your time, no money in the world could keep you here.

Interesting and especially when we begin comparing what people have to say.

Chocolina writes:


There is even a certain logic that Chocolina applies to support the idea:



But that is not a complete thought process because the logic that supports the inference is incomplete. WHY is it meaningful for an individual soul to continue to be ‘re-born’ or ‘re-incarnated’ on this Earth?

What is being benefited and/or whom is being benefited by our continued return into this, or any other, physical life-form?


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Cowboy writes:



Chocolina responds:


Cowboy replies:


I have to ask – how do you know we don’t pay to have this life? If we are what Chocolina believes we are, then how can either of you know that in some other plane in which our ‘personality/soul’ exists we haven’t paid some fee to have this life -- kind of like an extended carnival ride.

Either way – if the physical form ceases to exist then much of who and what we think we are, including much of our personality, would die with the physical form because who we are, how we act, and even how and what we think are directly related to our physical experiences in this body.

Take away the body that our personality developed in and we have no frame of reference regarding this one existence. The fact that we don’t remember being any other person (with some other personality that formed in another form or forms) seems to indicate that we are newly developed and will cease to exist when the body ceases to exist.

I admit that my logic is based on nothing – literally. In other words, there are no scientific theories that extend beyond the death of our physical form – therefore, I think the body ceases to exist.

Others prefer to believe that our intellect makes us so much more important within the universe that we must continue to exist beyond the physical. Some believe it would be meaningless for such a wondrous creature as humans to live like any other life form and then cease to exist in the same manner.

I, on the other hand, do not see humans as that wondrous of a creature. Nothing in all the data we have amassed in the time that we have existed as human on this planet – suggests to me, that we proceed in our everyday lives in any manner that is better than any other animal that has ever populated this Earth.

So I would suggest that if anyone wants to believe that humans have some eternal quality, that they might consider that we pay some over-rated fee to gain entry into this carnival ride and perhaps the fail safe to exit the ride prior to its completion - is suicide.

So what do you all think about that?

When you die do you die?

If you are not living life are you dead?

If you are living life death is not important.

life is.

enjoy it.

Interesting and especially when we begin comparing what people have to say.

Chocolina writes:


There is even a certain logic that Chocolina applies to support the idea:



But that is not a complete thought process because the logic that supports the inference is incomplete. WHY is it meaningful for an individual soul to continue to be ‘re-born’ or ‘re-incarnated’ on this Earth?

What is being benefited and/or whom is being benefited by our continued return into this, or any other, physical life-form?

I have to ask – how do you know we don’t pay to have this life? If we are what Chocolina believes we are, then how can either of you know that in some other plane in which our ‘personality/soul’ exists we haven’t paid some fee to have this life -- kind of like an extended carnival ride.

Either way – if the physical form ceases to exist then much of who and what we think we are, including much of our personality, would die with the physical form because who we are, how we act, and even how and what we think are directly related to our physical experiences in this body.

Take away the body that our personality developed in and we have no frame of reference regarding this one existence. The fact that we don’t remember being any other person (with some other personality that formed in another form or forms) seems to indicate that we are newly developed and will cease to exist when the body ceases to exist.

I admit that my logic is based on nothing – literally. In other words, there are no scientific theories that extend beyond the death of our physical form – therefore, I think the body ceases to exist.

Others prefer to believe that our intellect makes us so much more important within the universe that we must continue to exist beyond the physical. Some believe it would be meaningless for such a wondrous creature as humans to live like any other life form and then cease to exist in the same manner.

I, on the other hand, do not see humans as that wondrous of a creature. Nothing in all the data we have amassed in the time that we have existed as human on this planet – suggests to me, that we proceed in our everyday lives in any manner that is better than any other animal that has ever populated this Earth.

So I would suggest that if anyone wants to believe that humans have some eternal quality, that they might consider that we pay some over-rated fee to gain entry into this carnival ride and perhaps the fail safe to exit the ride prior to its completion - is suicide.

So what do you all think about that?

We did not create ourselves but were created.This life is a test for the life hereafter.The Soul only taste death and lives eternely.So do good in this world so that the creator will give us a better hereafter.

If there is no better life after death then why follow good morals.We can all become thieves and rapists etc!
there is a purpose in life.Read the Quran the speech of the Creator.

We did not create ourselves but were created.This life is a test for the life hereafter.The Soul only taste death and lives eternely.So do good in this world so that the creator will give us a better hereafter.

If there is no better life after death then why follow good morals.We can all become thieves and rapists etc!
there is a purpose in life.Read the Quran the speech of the Creator.