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Topic: Womb or Rib?...
AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 04/21/11 05:14 PM
It is possible that the word 'rib' in the creation myth of the God of Adam is a mistranslation.

It is possible to translate that also into 'womb'...

That being said...

Which is really the woman.

Adam or Eve?

for that would mean that Eve came from the womb of Adam.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 04/21/11 07:08 PM

It is possible that the word 'rib' in the creation myth of the God of Adam is a mistranslation.

It is possible to translate that also into 'womb'...

That being said...

Which is really the woman.

Adam or Eve?

for that would mean that Eve came from the womb of Adam.


Definitions of womb -
1.a hollow space enclosing something, esp when dark, warm, or sheltering
- Your ribs "enclose" around your sides. They shelter your organs.

2. From the Latin word meaning "belly, womb."
- The rib is "enclosing" your "belly".

So yeah could have been meaning "womb". But nevertheless we would get the same result.

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/22/11 12:56 AM
its possible, as anything is, but not so probable as the translations I have read only read as 'of his ribs'

mi·tzal·'o·tav, the word used in describing the taking of adams rib is not the same word used to describe the womb elsewhere in the bible and I havent read anywhere that it can be translated as womb


doesnt mean its impossible,, nothing is impossible , but I just dont see it being probable

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 04/24/11 05:08 PM

It is possible that the word 'rib' in the creation myth of the God of Adam is a mistranslation.

It is possible to translate that also into 'womb'...

That being said...

Which is really the woman.

Adam or Eve?

for that would mean that Eve came from the womb of Adam.


What you say has merit. for the Hebrew word for rib in this instance is Tesla.

tsela`

OT:6763 tsela` (tsay-law'); or (feminine) tsal`ah (tsal-aw'); from OT:6760; a rib (as curved), literally (of the body) or figuratively (of a door, i.e. leaf); hence, a side, literally (of a person) or figuratively (of an object or the sky, i.e. quarter); architecturally, a (especially floor or ceiling) timber or plank (single or collective, i.e. a flooring):


KJV - beam, board, chamber, corner, leaf, plank, rib, side (chamber).


(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


The KJV says many things this could be.

But how was this translated elsewhere the word Tesla?

Ezek 41:6

6 And the side chambers were three, one over another, and thirty in order; and they entered into the wall which was of the house for the side chambers round about, that they might have hold, but they had not hold in the wall of the house.
KJV


same verse that has tesla #


OT:6763 tsela` (tsay-law'); or (feminine) tsal`ah (tsal-aw');

which is Femine is what the word is then they go to another word and say what it means.

in EZe, several times Tesla is used.

Ezek 41:6
<RTL><LTR>6 one over another, were three, and thirty in order; and they entered into the wall which was of the house for the side chambers round
6763 6763 413 6763 9999 7969 7970 6471 935 7023 834 9999 1004 6763 5439

<RTL><LTR>about, that they might have hold,


(Interlinear Transliterated Bible. Copyright © 1994, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)


they are

Chamber.

another

chamber again

and again Chamber

one

If we take a look at where Tesla is written in Gen.

Gen 2:21-22

21 And Yahweh Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs ( TESLA), and closed up the flesh in its place.
NKJV


Now I have to ask the question why did Yahweh have to close up Adams flesh?

one of his ribs ( TESLA), and closed up the flesh in its place.


Did Yahweh need to do surgery?

I do not think so since when he breathed adam came alive why woul;d he have to close him up?

But if Adam had both sexes well taking the WOMB from Adam then it makes since Adam would need to be closed up.

Yahshua was asked about in Heaven who's would be the husband of a woman who had 7 husbands.

His answer..

Gen 1:1 - Luke 20:36

Then some of the Sadducees, who deny that there is a resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 28 saying: "Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man's brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second took her as wife, and he died childless. 31 Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven also; and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife."

34 Yahshua answered and said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of Yahweh, being sons of the resurrection.
NKJV

No femine he says sons.. Adam was a man.

IMO the word is a mistranslation as rib for Tesla is only used 2x the other is a rib in a bears mouth.

It IMO makes much more sence that Adam had both parts.. one was taken from him.. he was closed up and thence we have why the 2 become 1 again Whole and in the reserection they are together as 1 again as are the Angels.

What Angel can we find that is a Female? None all said to be males by examples.

So yes I believe you are quite right Adam was Male and Female as are the Angels in Heaven.

So the Marraige supper is to all Yahweh's people to his son the 2nd Adam.. Blessings..Miles

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 04/24/11 07:40 PM
Thanks Miles...

Yet when I read Genesis chronologicly I find that it matters not what Adam was.

He came after the creation of man.

For God rested before he created Adam.

Would that mean original sin belongs not upon the crystal tablet of mankind?

But instead only opon the ones chosen to tend the garden?

Male and Female created he them.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 04/24/11 09:36 PM

Thanks Miles...

Yet when I read Genesis chronologicly I find that it matters not what Adam was.

He came after the creation of man.

For God rested before he created Adam.

Would that mean original sin belongs not upon the crystal tablet of mankind?

But instead only opon the ones chosen to tend the garden?

Male and Female created he them
.


Male and Female created he them

Where this is quoted the verse before I believe it say And This ios The History when Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth.

Just going into more detail..It does this all through the scriptures from that point. Little bits about creation.

He did not rest before he created Adam.. chapter 1 is clear on this..

Original sin is the birth of lust.. wanting something thats shameful to you. as they covered up when confronted.

The garden is the fields of the earth.. some weeds some from good seed.. the seeds grow together and are seperated at the harvest.

Male and female created them.. 2 becomes 1 a great mystery.. Blessings..Miles

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 04/25/11 05:26 AM
Chapter 1 contains no mention of Adam.

Adam appears in Chapter 2. (indeed so also does the garden of eden)

After God rested.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 04/25/11 07:39 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Mon 04/25/11 07:39 AM

Chapter 1 contains no mention of Adam.

Adam appears in Chapter 2. (indeed so also does the garden of eden)

After God rested.


Gen 1:26

26 Then Elohim said,"Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness
NKJV

'adam

OT:120 'adam (aw-dawm'); from OT:119; ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):


KJV - another, hypocrite, common sort, low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


then in chapter 2

Gen 2:19-20
19 Out of the ground Yahweh Elohim formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.
NKJV

'adam



OT:120 'adam (aw-dawm'); from OT:119; ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):


KJV - another, hypocrite, common sort, low, man (mean, of low degree), person.


in chapter 1 the 6th day and chapter 2 verse 19 are both the same word.

Adam is the translation for Man. Blessings..Miles

Cephas74's photo
Sun 08/06/17 09:49 AM
Dear brother in Christ,
Milesoftheusa....


Brother, want to get more information on WOMB RIB of which i had a a thought, i searched for supportive information, i Found you.
Please send further information.

https://www.facebook.com/petershetty74
Thank you'
Yours in Christ
Peter Shetty
India

Cephas74's photo
Sun 08/06/17 09:50 AM
Dear brother in Christ,
Milesoftheusa....


Brother, want to get more information on WOMB RIB of which i had a a thought, i searched for supportive information, i Found you.
Please send further information.

https://www.facebook.com/petershetty74
Thank you'
Yours in Christ
Peter Shetty
India

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/06/17 11:23 AM
another theory is that Tsela meant side or protrusion, which on a man is his penis, and unlike other placental animals, we do know man has no bone in his penis,,,


but it would not matter which part of the man the woman was created from, the point of it would still stand.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 08/06/17 11:27 AM

Dear brother in Christ,
Milesoftheusa....


Brother, want to get more information on WOMB RIB of which i had a a thought, i searched for supportive information, i Found you.
Please send further information.

https://www.facebook.com/petershetty74
Thank you'
Yours in Christ
Peter Shetty
India


Really? 2011? Start a new topic

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Sun 08/06/17 12:13 PM
If that's true... I'd stay away from the barbecue sauce..tongue2

IAMISTHIS's photo
Tue 01/09/18 08:16 AM
Adam or Eve?
Our Fathers Sons of ,Daugthes are from the womb as beings from the Human being.With that said without a woman ,man can't be made.
We can look at this two ways ,one--->The baby is in the mommy stomch ,the ribs are in the stomch also,ribs/around the not yet born baby.

We as L.O.G.O.S. --->Say, Jesus is the Flesh/Christ is the bone,ego ,of the body ,mind,soul,with feet,and foot too walk in Peace or know Peace.

JESUS=Flesh ensoul,of SISTERS
CHRIST=Bone soul, for BROTHERS

Jesus is the body,from Sister
Christ is the body for Brothers

Jesus= Eternal Peace Internal Mind manner: subject to; KING
Christ= Ensoul Peace Internal Body manner: subject to; DOOM
Mary = Souls within/without Soul manner: subject to; FROM
SelF = Ghost with body Host Souls manner: subject to; GODS PEOPLE
Host = No Body has Peace in soul manner : subject to; FOR OUR
Sister is god----------------------------------------> BROTHER KEEPERS
Brother know gods------------------------------------> SISTERS,BROTHERS
Mothers Birth God------------------------------------> OF OUR KINGDOMS
Father GOD is LIFE----------------------------------> FLOCK & COLONY THAT
---------------------------->FORMS Gods CHILDREN,HERE ON EARTH.
T.H.I.S. I.S. FROM T.H.E.E.D.E.V.I.L.S. KIDS,pitchfork drinks



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Tue 01/09/18 09:08 AM


I believe I'll wait for God to write his own book rather than take the words of man as my faith..spock

Up2youandme's photo
Wed 05/02/18 04:54 PM


Lled
I believe I'll wait for God to write his own book rather than take the words of man as my faith..spock


He already has. It's called the book of Enoch

iam_resurrected's photo
Fri 05/04/18 08:44 PM



Lled
I believe I'll wait for God to write his own book rather than take the words of man as my faith..spock


He already has. It's called the book of Enoch




and Enoch chapter 1 speaks of Revelation's Armageddon.

i find it interesting that Enoch is quoted several times by Yeshua, and still the Book of Enoch is not in the Bible slaphead

Up2youandme's photo
Sat 05/05/18 11:55 AM
Simple really.... the book never mentioned any son of god so it will throw the whole christ bit in question not to mention on its head.

iam_resurrected's photo
Sat 05/05/18 01:05 PM

Simple really.... the book never mentioned any son of god so it will throw the whole christ bit in question not to mention on its head.





that is why i believe in the ONENESS concept. that God reveals Himself in 3 different manifestations. and since Yeshua claimed THREE times to being I AM [as in I AM with Moses - Burning Bush], and claimed when Philip asked shew us the Father that how did Philip not know him? and went on to explain you SEE ME you see the Father, you SEE the FATHER you SEE ME. and that nothing He is doing is on His own but according to the FATHER living inside Him.

so essentially, Yeshua is Yahweh the Father.

the term Son is because people up to then only understood God as Spirit. and being in the flesh, the term Son was used. but outside of dying for us, God Himself became flesh to be our example of how to live for God.

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Sat 05/05/18 01:12 PM
Yeah that's one way to spin it. Sure there's nothing more believable than a god in the flesh. As gullible as humans are the powers that be saw to it that people believe it or they burn them as heretics.

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