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Topic: Defunding Planned Parenthood: A good move?
AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/19/11 08:37 AM

hey, we all DON'T hate something. i hate nothing.


You my friend are a liar! Don't try to baffle me with BS! I would be willing to bet a lot of money that deep down somewhere there is something you hate. Spiders, taxation, Brittany Spears, conservatives...

I know you think you don't hate anything but frankly people who fall this readily to nay saying are lying to themselves and us!

Hate is part of the human condition! Sorry but you don't walk on water as I can't.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 07/19/11 08:40 AM


hey, we all DON'T hate something. i hate nothing.


You my friend are a liar! Don't try to baffle me with BS! I would be willing to bet a lot of money that deep down somewhere there is something you hate. Spiders, taxation, Brittany Spears, conservatives...

I know you think you don't hate anything but frankly people who fall this readily to nay saying are lying to themselves and us!

Hate is part of the human condition! Sorry but you don't walk on water as I can't.



wrong...

just because YOU hate does not mean it's natural and normal to hate

i hate nothing

no photo
Tue 07/19/11 08:44 AM


hey, we all DON'T hate something. i hate nothing.


You my friend are a liar! Don't try to baffle me with BS! I would be willing to bet a lot of money that deep down somewhere there is something you hate. Spiders, taxation, Brittany Spears, conservatives...

I know you think you don't hate anything but frankly people who fall this readily to nay saying are lying to themselves and us!

Hate is part of the human condition! Sorry but you don't walk on water as I can't.


Hate is a waste of energy. Just because you hate many things, that does not mean others must as well.

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Tue 07/19/11 11:00 AM
That is absolutely untrue. It's a leftist claim, which is easily refuted with the Constitution and writing by the founding fathers. Read the 10th Amendment for starts. I should get paid for all the time I spend educating people in these forums..


If the powers of Congress to levy taxes were limited to those 19 enumerated powers, we would have no FBI, no CIA, no NSA, NASA, FEMA, no Department of Homeland Security. None of these independent agencies are grounded in those 19 enumerated powers. We wouldn't even have an Air Force. (An Army Air Corps would be OK, but not and Air Force as an independent agency).

I don't think your efforts to "educate" are bearing much fruit. It's a very incomplete education that ignores the General Welfare clause of the Constitution.

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Tue 07/19/11 11:25 AM

That is absolutely untrue. It's a leftist claim, which is easily refuted with the Constitution and writing by the founding fathers. Read the 10th Amendment for starts. I should get paid for all the time I spend educating people in these forums..


If the powers of Congress to levy taxes were limited to those 19 enumerated powers, we would have no FBI, no CIA, no NSA, NASA, FEMA, no Department of Homeland Security. None of these independent agencies are grounded in those 19 enumerated powers. We wouldn't even have an Air Force. (An Army Air Corps would be OK, but not and Air Force as an independent agency).

I don't think your efforts to "educate" are bearing much fruit. It's a very incomplete education that ignores the General Welfare clause of the Constitution.


We would have the Air Force, it's a branch of the military.

General Welfare is the most intentionally misunderstood part of the Constitution. It can literally be used to override any other amendment or protection granted by the Constitution in the convoluted way that the Left interprets it.


Congressman Soandso: "Wouldn't most people be better off if we enslaved all non-whites?"
Soandso's Aid: "Well, whites might be, but..."
Congressman Soandso: "Hey, whites are 69.1% of the population and it's in their general welfare for them to not have to work so hard."

laugh

Leftist arguments are always destroyed by Reductio ad absurdum.

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/19/11 12:44 PM



hey, we all DON'T hate something. i hate nothing.


You my friend are a liar! Don't try to baffle me with BS! I would be willing to bet a lot of money that deep down somewhere there is something you hate. Spiders, taxation, Brittany Spears, conservatives...

I know you think you don't hate anything but frankly people who fall this readily to nay saying are lying to themselves and us!

Hate is part of the human condition! Sorry but you don't walk on water as I can't.



wrong...

just because YOU hate does not mean it's natural and normal to hate

i hate nothing


And yet again you are so wrong. We all have a hatred of something. It may not be on the surface but it is always there. it takes a much bigger person and an honest one to admit they do have something they hate from hating slavery to hating their ex-fiance for cheating on them. Even hating ants is still hate. How about hornets? Let us say they were a constant pain in your azz stinging you and every time you wipe out one nest there is another a few days after under the eaves over your front door to your house? When people say they don't hate anything I know they are not being honest with me or themselves.

At least saying "I don't think I hate anything," is not a lie like "I DON'T HATE ANYTHING."

Just because you hate something like say Cancer or malaria or that alcoholic dickhead down the street who constantly gets drunk and starts crap with all the neighbors, does not make you an evil person. If I hated eating Mushrooms suddenly I am an evil person?

If you can't be honest with yourself you can't really expect us to believe you are going to be honest with us do you? This is a probe into the way people think and I am learning a lot. To think people want to see themselves elevated above core human nature. That is like a beast pretending to be civilized. Humans are still bestial in nature. We have a feral side. I can see domestication does run deep. People think they don't have a full spread of emotions like the rest of us.

And here I thought I am supposed to be the evil one. At least I don't lie to myself that much. Besides, if I didn't hate my failure I would have no motivation to improve, would I?

I show you a picture of a black and white square sitting on a gray field and all you see is black OR white and nothing in between.

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/19/11 12:46 PM



Leftist arguments are always destroyed by Reductio ad absurdum.


And when they resort to that tactic I ask them if they want the a biscuit with their Chicken dinner. they see it as a form of reasoning. I see it as a cheap shot to avoid facing their own failures in their beliefs.

no photo
Tue 07/19/11 02:45 PM
We would have the Air Force, it's a branch of the military.

General Welfare is the most intentionally misunderstood part of the Constitution. It can literally be used to override any other amendment or protection granted by the Constitution in the convoluted way that the Left interprets it.


No.The "originalists" want the original language to mean exactly what it says. The Amendment makes no mention of a "military". Just an Army. OK. that's a silly example. But what about the rest? You didn't address them.

When you ignore the general welfare clause in favor of the 19 enumerated powers You are saying that all that's required to serve the public's needs are those 19 items. Have you read those items. Just so that everybody knows what we're talking about, let's remind everybody of the only things that Spidercomb thinks are required of the Federal Government to take care of the general welfare of the American people:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


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