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Topic: "Will Humans Ruin This Earth?"
msharmony's photo
Sun 07/17/11 01:27 AM



Except hitting ones children is abuse and the bible encourages it so the dominion is flawed big time...



hmm, I wonder why we allow children to partipate in sports like football and wrestling then,,,,,

guess its ok as 'fun' but not as 'discipline'.....


there is a difference between abuse and discipline, the bible doesnt encourage abuse, it encourages discipline


Firstly to try and compare sports to a parent abusing and hitting their child constantly, makes you look plain stupid. That argument is just ridiculous, two entirely different things.

Second, that would work.....if you don't count that God will kill you and let you die and possibly even burn forever according to some if you don't obey Him. That would qualify as abuse to me........



IM not comparing sports to abuse, I was actually comparing sports to DISCIPLINE(the level of actual physical harm is similar)

abuse would be those activities that would cause MORE than the usual harms of childhood 'play'

jrbogie's photo
Sun 07/17/11 05:01 AM



Except hitting ones children is abuse and the bible encourages it so the dominion is flawed big time...



hmm, I wonder why we allow children to partipate in sports like football and wrestling then,,,,,

guess its ok as 'fun' but not as 'discipline'.....


there is a difference between abuse and discipline, the bible doesnt encourage abuse, it encourages discipline


Firstly to try and compare sports to a parent abusing and hitting their child constantly, makes you look plain stupid. That argument is just ridiculous, two entirely different things.

Second, that would work.....if you don't count that God will kill you and let you die and possibly even burn forever according to some if you don't obey Him. That would qualify as abuse to me........


firstly, i certainly didn't read that mh 'compared sports to a parent abusing and hitting their child constantly.' i read her as saying that sports were a way to learn discipline. reread the final sentence of her post.

secondly, you might reconsider who you say looks 'plain stupid.' THAT'S what's really rediculous as you know nothing about the person other than that she see's things differently than you do.

Kleisto's photo
Sun 07/17/11 04:05 PM




Except hitting ones children is abuse and the bible encourages it so the dominion is flawed big time...



hmm, I wonder why we allow children to partipate in sports like football and wrestling then,,,,,

guess its ok as 'fun' but not as 'discipline'.....


there is a difference between abuse and discipline, the bible doesnt encourage abuse, it encourages discipline


Firstly to try and compare sports to a parent abusing and hitting their child constantly, makes you look plain stupid. That argument is just ridiculous, two entirely different things.

Second, that would work.....if you don't count that God will kill you and let you die and possibly even burn forever according to some if you don't obey Him. That would qualify as abuse to me........


firstly, i certainly didn't read that mh 'compared sports to a parent abusing and hitting their child constantly.' i read her as saying that sports were a way to learn discipline. reread the final sentence of her post.

secondly, you might reconsider who you say looks 'plain stupid.' THAT'S what's really rediculous as you know nothing about the person other than that she see's things differently than you do.


I stand by it. Think of me what you want, the argument is still ridiculous.

And the Bible's idea of "discipline" is far from just and loving either.

jrbogie's photo
Sun 07/17/11 08:22 PM
Edited by jrbogie on Sun 07/17/11 08:24 PM
okay. i'll think of you saying that mh looks 'plain stupid.' fair nuff?

Kleisto's photo
Sun 07/17/11 08:44 PM

okay. i'll think of you saying that mh looks 'plain stupid.' fair nuff?


I could care less what you think of me. I say what's on my mind, and always will whether one likes it or not.

no photo
Sun 07/17/11 09:33 PM


okay. i'll think of you saying that mh looks 'plain stupid.' fair nuff?


I could care less what you think of me. I say what's on my mind, and always will whether one likes it or not.



Obviously you don't know what's on your own mind, let alone someone else's...


I like it... It gives me something to laugh about before bed...





Redykeulous's photo
Sun 07/17/11 10:30 PM



I believe natural disasters will be so bad someday that humans will wish they would just die and get it over with.. like starvation from say a super volcanoe erupting and starvatuion is probally the worth death you could have and then watching your little ones go through it will be the toughest of all.. that maybe why people will want to end thier lives but won't because of thier children..it will be bad..IMO..Blessings..Miles


Thanks Miles, but can you expound a bit on why we are or would be subjected to these natural disasters?

Do you think it could be part of something we have done or didn't do that changed the environment?

OR perhaps you think that nothing we could ever do would make a difference because God hold reigns and will bring these natural disasters in his own good time?

Or maybe you have another opinion, I'd like to hear it.


Shalom Red

Part is from scripture and part from science.

Yellowstone is in the cycle to where it could explode at anytime.

several; years ago scientest put GPS devices throughout Yellowstone which was made by a super Volcano 640,000 years ago. The Gps data from space measures its distance to them.. they found out that Yellowstone had risen 4 ft is a few years.. indicating lava was pushing upwards.. it was so serious that they started mass evacuations of towns close and was even on local TV to get out through press specials. Washington then got a hold of it and made them retract thier statements aand they were right it did not has not yet happened.. also they found dead buffalo and wolves that looked like they just fell over dead.. autopsy's and testing the air showed a high concentration of carbonmonoxide gas present which a is what the silent killer was.. just like gas furnces in houses do to people every year.

This also is a sign that something is going on underneath Yellowstone whish its candra is 20 miles wide and 60 miles long..

Scientests have said thaat if it goes off like it did the ash it would spew would cover the whole state of Texas in 12 foot of ash.

Planes would fall from the sky and now they are saaying all of N America would be destroyed.

This fits up perfect with the usa and it would cause world wide hunger/starvation since we are the worlds bread basket.

Now scripture to this cause.


Rev 16:18-21
18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent. Men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great.
NKJV


It very well may be the greatest earthquake ever and 100 pound hailstones/ lava rocck.. is very likely for 100's of miles away to fall from the sky..

Gen 1:1 - Rev 18:3

After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying,"Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury."
NKJV


We have done this. We have more prisons than anywhere in the world. It calls these foul spirits that we have locked up.

We have made the world rich.. money standards through the world is based off our dollar I Believe at least.

scientists say that if it goes off that Europe would see " the smoke of our/of her burning" they would wail the world would go into crisis that we have never seen before.

The kings who have been made rich would be scared to death as we can not protect them anymore.


also the 3rd Horseman I Believe has already rode or is still riding as our symbol for democrocy is Scales.

Rev 6:5-6
So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
NKJV


Then after that is famine.. IMO babylon the great is destroyed by Yellowstone and thier will not be enough for the middle east and europe, russia to eat or spread around.. when food is scarce people will do anything to get it.. wars break out everywhere..

Rev 6:7-8

When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see." 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
NKJV


a 1/4 of the earth will fight for food.. Blessings of Shalom Red..Miles


Thanks for the reply Miles,

Yellowstone is quite problematic. Are you thinking that this is part of climate change? Do you think it's all tied in?

It's been suggested that if Yellowstone errupts much the U.S. will dissappear and much will be uninhabitable.

I wonder - if the great hole left by the emptying of the lava chamber might not create a new ocean which could help clense the land around it for future generations.

That might be a 'natural' way for some healing of the Earth for human existance, BUT there's no telling if humans would survive the kind of devastation such an erruption has been predicted to bring.

Interesting!

Kleisto's photo
Sun 07/17/11 11:21 PM



okay. i'll think of you saying that mh looks 'plain stupid.' fair nuff?


I could care less what you think of me. I say what's on my mind, and always will whether one likes it or not.



Obviously you don't know what's on your own mind, let alone someone else's...


I like it... It gives me something to laugh about before bed...



Whatever floats your boat dude, I don't give a damn anymore.

jrbogie's photo
Mon 07/18/11 08:01 AM
Edited by jrbogie on Mon 07/18/11 08:04 AM


okay. i'll think of you saying that mh looks 'plain stupid.' fair nuff?


I could care less what you think of me. I say what's on my mind, and always will whether one likes it or not.


didn't say i didn't like it nor did i tell you what i think of you. i found your post regarding mh looking stupid to be rediculous but i never express my personal opinion of someone, especially when the topic is stupidity or some other inflamitory statement that adds nothing to the debate. but no harm no foul. ridicule, whether of a post which is not directed at the poster or as an insult to a person you don't know anything about other than what she posted is allowed from all participants here. some of us, like mh, choose to ridicule what's said, others, like you, seem to think that inferring that someone looks stupid somehow elevates your position on high and somehow contributes to the discussion. it doesn't of course but it is entertaing to observe. so keep it up. not here to lean anything. it's a frigging dating site. here for the entertainment and amusement.

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Fri 09/09/11 07:53 PM
Edited by missyfissy on Fri 09/09/11 07:54 PM
Will Humans Ruin this Earth?


I started thinking about how many people still believe in the Dominion of Humans and what that means as far as human ability to destroy the Earth without divine intervention.

Do you think religion is the reason so many people don’t care about global warming or perhaps don’t believe humans could bring it about?

Do you think we are finally seeing the worst of all possible dangers that fundamental religious beliefs can bring about: the destruction of humanity itself?


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Answer:
I think it's greed versus religion, that will destroy the earth.

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Fri 09/09/11 08:26 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 09/09/11 08:26 PM
Will Humans Ruin this Earth?


No.


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Fri 09/09/11 08:29 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 09/09/11 08:30 PM


Do you think religion is the reason so many people don’t care about global warming or perhaps don’t believe humans could bring it about?


No. I don't blame "religion." But I don't believe humans brought about "global warming."


Do you think we are finally seeing the worst of all possible dangers that fundamental religious beliefs can bring about: the destruction of humanity itself?



Huh? Nope.

metalwing's photo
Fri 09/09/11 11:47 PM

Will Humans Ruin this Earth?


I started thinking about how many people still believe in the Dominion of Humans and what that means as far as human ability to destroy the Earth without divine intervention.

Do you think religion is the reason so many people don’t care about global warming or perhaps don’t believe humans could bring it about?

Do you think we are finally seeing the worst of all possible dangers that fundamental religious beliefs can bring about: the destruction of humanity itself?


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Answer:
I think it's greed versus religion, that will destroy the earth.


I think it is greed and ignorance. Much of the Earth has already been ruined, and we are working on the rest fairly quickly. What man has done to the Earth is a crime. I wonder if our grandchildren will be able to fix any of the damage.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/10/11 12:00 AM
The earth will be fine, unless we base its 'health' on how well it can sustain us,,,,,


but we will certainly kill ourselves off in time,,,

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Sat 09/10/11 12:58 AM
It is what it is.:tongue:



"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? "

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