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Show me where the internet has improved our childrens intelligence at large, and I may see the point of such logic My nephew does not go to school and never has. I helped teach him to read and navigate the Internet. He is home schooled, but not much. He has found a keen interest in watching historical documentaries about the world wars and other things historical. He is a wiz on the Internet and it was his motivation to learn to read. Speaking about that, that's another problem with the educational system. Everyone is basically pushed along at the same pace, regardless of how prepared you may be for the next stage. I can't begin to tell you how many times in school someone would be called on to read aloud, and the person would struggle to do it. It used to bother me, but looking back I know why now. It's because they really weren't allowed the time to learn that at their own pace, but rather were just lumped with everyone else. This also does the kids a major disservice. Kids need to be able to learn at their own individual paces, not everyone is going to learn things the same way or at the same time. Some may learn faster, some may learn slower depending on the person. But the current system generally speaking doesn't really provide for this, so kids are stuck learning at a pace they can't keep up with, or learning at a slower pace than they really need. So all sides lose. working with each individual at their personal individual pace would require more teachers there are schools just for this, which do have more teachers to go around and a much smaller pupil:teacher ratio they are called montessouri schools, and are usually considered with high esteem by others,, public schools however, are run by PUBLIC funds, so that a collective style of teaching must be used as to not 'unfairly' disseminate information and knowledge in public schools, PARENTS are permitted to know the curriculums and what will be expected to prepare their own children and make sure their children are prepared to learn at the level they are in Two things though, firstly the higher schools are more expensive so not a lot of people can afford them. Second, while it may be all well and good, some parents simply do not have the time to prepare them like you say. And even if they try, some kids STILL may need more time than they are given. Kids should not be pushed along like cattle either way though. there is no system that is going to do all things for all children though parents AND teachers have to work with kids instead of just pointing fingers at each other you get what you pay for, public school is 'free', or at least VERY cheap , so we cant expect what we arent willing to pay for we have to work with what we bought(And noone ever wants their taxes raised, it seems), so we as parents should expect to put in a bit more work instead of just pointing at the educational system to have full responsibility for each child and to be able to educate EACH one at their personal and individual level Again though it's TIME a lot do not have, again by design. It's not as simple as you make it out to be. I mean people are struggling just to make ends meet for crying out loud, let alone educating their kids too. so how would eliminating the school system help those children whose parents are 'struggling' too much to educate their own children? I can't really answer that, but I do not trust the state to be telling my kids what the truth is. No way. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Show me where the internet has improved our childrens intelligence at large, and I may see the point of such logic My nephew does not go to school and never has. I helped teach him to read and navigate the Internet. He is home schooled, but not much. He has found a keen interest in watching historical documentaries about the world wars and other things historical. He is a wiz on the Internet and it was his motivation to learn to read. Speaking about that, that's another problem with the educational system. Everyone is basically pushed along at the same pace, regardless of how prepared you may be for the next stage. I can't begin to tell you how many times in school someone would be called on to read aloud, and the person would struggle to do it. It used to bother me, but looking back I know why now. It's because they really weren't allowed the time to learn that at their own pace, but rather were just lumped with everyone else. This also does the kids a major disservice. Kids need to be able to learn at their own individual paces, not everyone is going to learn things the same way or at the same time. Some may learn faster, some may learn slower depending on the person. But the current system generally speaking doesn't really provide for this, so kids are stuck learning at a pace they can't keep up with, or learning at a slower pace than they really need. So all sides lose. working with each individual at their personal individual pace would require more teachers there are schools just for this, which do have more teachers to go around and a much smaller pupil:teacher ratio they are called montessouri schools, and are usually considered with high esteem by others,, public schools however, are run by PUBLIC funds, so that a collective style of teaching must be used as to not 'unfairly' disseminate information and knowledge in public schools, PARENTS are permitted to know the curriculums and what will be expected to prepare their own children and make sure their children are prepared to learn at the level they are in Two things though, firstly the higher schools are more expensive so not a lot of people can afford them. Second, while it may be all well and good, some parents simply do not have the time to prepare them like you say. And even if they try, some kids STILL may need more time than they are given. Kids should not be pushed along like cattle either way though. there is no system that is going to do all things for all children though parents AND teachers have to work with kids instead of just pointing fingers at each other you get what you pay for, public school is 'free', or at least VERY cheap , so we cant expect what we arent willing to pay for we have to work with what we bought(And noone ever wants their taxes raised, it seems), so we as parents should expect to put in a bit more work instead of just pointing at the educational system to have full responsibility for each child and to be able to educate EACH one at their personal and individual level Again though it's TIME a lot do not have, again by design. It's not as simple as you make it out to be. I mean people are struggling just to make ends meet for crying out loud, let alone educating their kids too. so how would eliminating the school system help those children whose parents are 'struggling' too much to educate their own children? I can't really answer that, but I do not trust the state to be telling my kids what the truth is. No way. the state is an entity. People and books express to us 'truth'. Should we ever rely solely on one source or person for the truth? no. But, as a parent, I dont just leave it to the 'STATE' (by this I guess you mean public educational system). I speak with my children. I learn what they are learning. IF and when there is something I am in disagreement about, I explain that to them along with the FACT that they will still be EXPECTED to have the 'form answer' when asked about those things while they are out in the 'world' of employment and education. My son knows quite well the difference between some of the things government and history classes have taught him as truth, and the more expandable details that his actual elders can share with him. I dont begrudge him learning what he learned though because it will play a part in some situations of whether he is permitted to move forward or not. A great example is evolution. It is a commonly held perception that we evolved from Apes. I believe it is hogwash and my son knows why. However, for the sake of his educational and professional experience, he knows the 'commonly expected' answers to have when it comes to that subject. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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msharmony
Don't get excited. I for one am not talking about eliminating the school system, but they better damn well improve it because our kids are getting dumber and dumber. |
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msharmony Don't get excited. I for one am not talking about eliminating the school system, but they better damn well improve it because our kids are getting dumber and dumber. lol jeannie you can ask Krupa, Im not the excitable type ,,lol but I agree it needs alot of improvement,,, |
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msharmony Don't get excited. I for one am not talking about eliminating the school system, but they better damn well improve it because our kids are getting dumber and dumber. They are and they want that, that's why it will never change. Dumb and ignorant people make the best slaves, educated people don't. |
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I've posted this before, but this sums up my feelings pretty well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQT7_rVxAE |
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