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The price of gasoline is damaging not just Americans' finances and mobility -- but the public's broader economic sentiment, and with it, Barack Obama's re-election prospects.
With gas up 26 percent this year to an average $3.88 a gallon, seven in 10 Americans in this ABC News/Washington Post poll report financial hardship as a result, six in 10 say they've cut back on driving -- and, among those hardest hit, Obama's ratings are suffering. This poll, produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates, finds the president's job approval rating 13 points lower among people who say the price of gas is causing them hardship. Forty-three percent of them approve of the president, vs. 56 percent of those who report no hardship. And among the four in 10 feeling "serious" hardship, just 39 percent approve of Obama's work in office. In re-election terms, 53 percent of those who are feeling serious hardship as a result of gas prices say they definitely will not vote for Obama in 2012 -- 14 points more than say so among those who are feeling either less-than-serious hardship, or none at all. Political support usually rests heavily on economic performance, and there the sharply rising price of gas is taking its expected toll. Economic pessimism -- the number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse -- has doubled this year to 44 percent, and it rises to 54 percent, among those who report serious financial hardship from gas prices. It's not unusual for a president to take the heat when gas prices rise: George W. Bush's job approval rating correlated with the price of gasoline across his two terms at minus-.84, a very strong relationship. Obama's approval rating has correlated with the price of gas at minus-.71. Given these results, political positioning is in full swing. Obama has initiated an examination of possible gas-price manipulation; he also conceded at a fundraiser Thursday that the rise in gas prices has hurt his popularity. House Republicans have called for hearings and legislation to highlight the run-up in fuel costs. Approval of Democrats in Congress shows an effect similar to Obama's, though less starkly -- it's 9 points lower among those who report serious financial hardship as a result of gas prices compared with those who report no hardship. But, notably, Republican leaders' approval ratings do not show such an effect: Approval of the Republicans in Congress overall is an identical 34 percent among people who report hardship as a result of gas prices and among those who report no hardship. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, has 42 percent and 45 percent approval, respectively, in these groups. That leaves more of the damage for the president, and perhaps by extension, his party. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gas-prices-slam-drivers-obamas-poll-numbers/story?id=13453640 |
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35.
Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. |
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Edited by
Peccy
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Tue 10/25/11 08:25 PM
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35. Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. |
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35. Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. That's not true.  As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point. President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy. Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized. During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.... http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/04/in-pictures-bush-vs-obama-on-gas-prices/ |
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The Los Angeles Times reports today that White House fears gas prices could tank Obama. But they can’t be that worried. Here is a bit from an AP report on yesterday’s energy event in Fairless Hills, PA: Obama needled one questioner who asked about gas prices, now averaging close to $3.70 a gallon nationwide, and suggested that the gentleman consider getting rid of his gas-guzzling vehicle. "If you're complaining about the price of gas and you're only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know," Obama said laughingly. "You might want to think about a trade-in." Instapundit has since noted that the AP has scrubbed this exchange from their website, but earlier versions with this account still exist (including The Huffington Post at this time). Obama insisted yesterday that “There is no magic formula to driving gas prices down.” That is true. But there are also things the government can do that will drive the price of gas up. And the Obama administration has done many of them including: Immediately after taking office in 2009, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, canceled 77 leases for oil and gas drilling in Utah. The EPA announced new rules mandating the use of 36 billion gallons worth of renewable fuels (like ethanol) by 2020. Last summer President Obama needlessly instituted, not one, but two outright drilling bans in the Gulf of Mexico. After rescinding his outright offshore drilling ban, President Obama has refused to issue any new drilling permits in the Gulf, a policy that the Energy Information Administration estimates will cut domestic offshore oil production by 13% this year Interior Secretary Salazar announced that the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic coast, and the Pacific coast will not be developed, effectively banning drilling in those areas for the next seven years; The Environmental Protection Agency has announced new global warming regulations for oil refineries; Interior Secretary Salazar announced new rules making it more difficult to develop energy resources on federal land. The EPA is slowing a pipeline that would expand U.S. access to Canadian oil sands. All of these policies raise gas prices at the pump by either: 1) decreasing the availability of domestic energy supplies, or 2) increasing regulatory costs on gasoline production. No wonder Obama is urging “patience” at the pump. Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/obama-voter-gas-prices-you-might-want-think-about-trade#ixzz1br77G1n2 |
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"The bottom line is, unless gas prices go down, it puts the president in mortal peril," said Douglas Schoen, a former campaign consultant to President Clinton. "Every American faces higher gas prices every day, so in a certain sense, it has the likelihood of being a more serious problem than the unemployment rate, because 9% are unemployed but 100% of the American people have to deal with the impact directly and indirectly of rising fuel prices."
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By many accounts we are on the down side of 'peak'oil reserves. At this point it will become more expensive to gain the crude that is still available and new technology will have to be developed for the hard to get to reserves.
The only fault of any president or other figure in authority is that they do not initiate and fully back renewable alternative measures. The XL pipeline will not resolve a thing. It would create an increase in the price of fuel and it would reak havoc on the environemnts through which it's placed. The cost of lawsuits alone will increase the price of fuel and converting tar sands oil to fuel is more expensive than converting crude, more environmentally destructive, and it is an expensive pasifier for those who are in denial. |
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By many accounts we are on the down side of 'peak'oil reserves. At this point it will become more expensive to gain the crude that is still available and new technology will have to be developed for the hard to get to reserves. The only fault of any president or other figure in authority is that they do not initiate and fully back renewable alternative measures. The XL pipeline will not resolve a thing. It would create an increase in the price of fuel and it would reak havoc on the environemnts through which it's placed. The cost of lawsuits alone will increase the price of fuel and converting tar sands oil to fuel is more expensive than converting crude, more environmentally destructive, and it is an expensive pasifier for those who are in denial. "Peak Oil" refers to the relatively "easy to get at" proven oil reserves. The economic pressures to drill are more set by the oil cartel than Earth's resources. We are past the easy oil in the US and most of the easy oil is in the Middle East. The Middle Eastern oil only costs about ten dollars a barrel to produce. Deep Gulf oil costs between forty and sixty dollars a barrel to produce. Obama stopped gulf drilling causing many of the oil rigs to leave the US for places like Brazil. The delay in finding new production is solely on Obama's shoulders. His administration was quick to shut down the search for domestic production (which he now claims is necessary) while failing to add other energy sources as promised. Obama initially make big promises to increase nuclear power which didn't happen. The comments about the XL pipeline causing an increase in the price of oil are bizarre. That isn't how the system works. The price of oil is set by world demand with supply choked by the cartel to keep prices high. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 10/25/11 11:34 PM
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The price of gasoline is damaging not just Americans' finances and mobility -- but the public's broader economic sentiment, and with it, Barack Obama's re-election prospects. You wish...   Gas prices have been going up forever. They go up and down and down and up. It is all politics. There is no gas or oil shortage. Big business controls those things. |
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The Russians know how to get all the oil they need. They just dig deeper.
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Spherical ball 8000 miles in dia., suspended in space by the gravational forces of the sun.
How deep can they go? (before deep is gone) If we had pumped the water from the oceans in the same rate as we have pumped oil... How much ocean would be left? |
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35. Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. That's not true. As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point. President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy. Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized. During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.... http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/04/in-pictures-bush-vs-obama-on-gas-prices/ sorry, it is not untru A term is 48 months, not 26 average gas price was 1.46 in nov 2000 and 1.93 in november 2004 about a fifty cent increase or, 33 percent in november 2008, gas was about 2.10, and is now at 3.46 with 12 months to go before election but ALOT can happen in twelve months, even looking at Bush's on record where average gas prices in June of 2008 were up to 4.00 a decrease of 1.90 in just five months ,,in short,, its just way to easy to try to predict by comparing less than a full term,,, |
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35. Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. That's not true. As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point. President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy. Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized. During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.... http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/04/in-pictures-bush-vs-obama-on-gas-prices/ sorry, it is not untru A term is 48 months, not 26 average gas price was 1.46 in nov 2000 and 1.93 in november 2004 about a fifty cent increase or, 33 percent in november 2008, gas was about 2.10, and is now at 3.46 with 12 months to go before election but ALOT can happen in twelve months, even looking at Bush's on record where average gas prices in June of 2008 were up to 4.00 a decrease of 1.90 in just five months ,,in short,, its just way to easy to try to predict by comparing less than a full term,,, Unless I misunderstand what you wrote, you are saying that the rise in gas prices won't hurt Obama's re-election. That isn't true. Obama's own people, including Obama, know that it has hurt him badly and many have said so. The vast data presented show why. Many considered Bush a friend to the oil companies. Most know Obama is an enemy to the oil companies and he has taken specific actions which have hurt America's ability to provide oil for itself. You are trying to confuse cartel actions with Obama actions to make Obama look better. Defending Obama 100% of the time in instances like this where his closest allies find criticism, doesn't work. |
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The price of gasoline is damaging not just Americans' finances and mobility -- but the public's broader economic sentiment, and with it, Barack Obama's re-election prospects. With gas up 26 percent this year to an average $3.88 a gallon, seven in 10 Americans in this ABC News/Washington Post poll report financial hardship as a result, six in 10 say they've cut back on driving -- and, among those hardest hit, Obama's ratings are suffering. This poll, produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates, finds the president's job approval rating 13 points lower among people who say the price of gas is causing them hardship. Forty-three percent of them approve of the president, vs. 56 percent of those who report no hardship. And among the four in 10 feeling "serious" hardship, just 39 percent approve of Obama's work in office. In re-election terms, 53 percent of those who are feeling serious hardship as a result of gas prices say they definitely will not vote for Obama in 2012 -- 14 points more than say so among those who are feeling either less-than-serious hardship, or none at all. Political support usually rests heavily on economic performance, and there the sharply rising price of gas is taking its expected toll. Economic pessimism -- the number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse -- has doubled this year to 44 percent, and it rises to 54 percent, among those who report serious financial hardship from gas prices. It's not unusual for a president to take the heat when gas prices rise: George W. Bush's job approval rating correlated with the price of gasoline across his two terms at minus-.84, a very strong relationship. Obama's approval rating has correlated with the price of gas at minus-.71. Given these results, political positioning is in full swing. Obama has initiated an examination of possible gas-price manipulation; he also conceded at a fundraiser Thursday that the rise in gas prices has hurt his popularity. House Republicans have called for hearings and legislation to highlight the run-up in fuel costs. Approval of Democrats in Congress shows an effect similar to Obama's, though less starkly -- it's 9 points lower among those who report serious financial hardship as a result of gas prices compared with those who report no hardship. But, notably, Republican leaders' approval ratings do not show such an effect: Approval of the Republicans in Congress overall is an identical 34 percent among people who report hardship as a result of gas prices and among those who report no hardship. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, has 42 percent and 45 percent approval, respectively, in these groups. That leaves more of the damage for the president, and perhaps by extension, his party. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gas-prices-slam-drivers-obamas-poll-numbers/story?id=13453640 they don't care about gas prices. they want them high so it forces people to buy the $97,000 electric cars that got the US loan to build them in Finland. |
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I dont know if the gas will factor in. After all, prices for gas were nearly 1.00 higher than when Bush was elected by the time he was RE elected. From about 1.46 to about 2.35. Unless there is much more of a hike between now and election. The increase in the price of gas over one term will be about the same. That's not true. As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point. President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy. Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized. During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.... http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/04/in-pictures-bush-vs-obama-on-gas-prices/ sorry, it is not untru A term is 48 months, not 26 average gas price was 1.46 in nov 2000 and 1.93 in november 2004 about a fifty cent increase or, 33 percent in november 2008, gas was about 2.10, and is now at 3.46 with 12 months to go before election but ALOT can happen in twelve months, even looking at Bush's on record where average gas prices in June of 2008 were up to 4.00 a decrease of 1.90 in just five months ,,in short,, its just way to easy to try to predict by comparing less than a full term,,, Unless I misunderstand what you wrote, you are saying that the rise in gas prices won't hurt Obama's re-election. That isn't true. Obama's own people, including Obama, know that it has hurt him badly and many have said so. The vast data presented show why. Many considered Bush a friend to the oil companies. Most know Obama is an enemy to the oil companies and he has taken specific actions which have hurt America's ability to provide oil for itself. You are trying to confuse cartel actions with Obama actions to make Obama look better. Defending Obama 100% of the time in instances like this where his closest allies find criticism, doesn't work. thats odd, because I dont recall even mentioning cartels or anyones 'actions' I posted the details of gas prices under a different president, to outline how they can CHANGE, and CHANGE quickly...and how they fluxuate regularly (porbably not merely because of who is potus at the time) I dont think the price of fuel will factor in much come election time,,unless it gets higher,, which I Am doubting |
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i bet Obamas gas smells better than Georges,thats why it cost more.
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i bet Obamas gas smells better than Georges,thats why it cost more. It doesnt cost more, gas prices FLUXUATE, in June of 2008 , under BUsh , the price of gas was more than it is now ITs a smokescreen issue, that has little to do with the presidency (not nothing to do with it, but little enough to be irrelevant) |
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i bet Obamas gas smells better than Georges,thats why it cost more. It doesnt cost more, gas prices FLUXUATE, in June of 2008 , under BUsh , the price of gas was more than it is now ITs a smokescreen issue, that has little to do with the presidency (not nothing to do with it, but little enough to be irrelevant) "Political support usually rests heavily on economic performance, and there the sharply rising price of gas is taking its expected toll. Economic pessimism -- the number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse -- has doubled this year to 44 percent, and it rises to 54 percent, among those who report serious financial hardship from gas prices." It looks as though it will be pretty relevant this election. Maybe it wasn't relevant in previous years because it wasn't as large of an issue. People can't afford to put gas in their cars to go to work is not relevant? Pretty relevant I'd say. |
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i bet Obamas gas smells better than Georges,thats why it cost more. It doesnt cost more, gas prices FLUXUATE, in June of 2008 , under BUsh , the price of gas was more than it is now ITs a smokescreen issue, that has little to do with the presidency (not nothing to do with it, but little enough to be irrelevant) "Political support usually rests heavily on economic performance, and there the sharply rising price of gas is taking its expected toll. Economic pessimism -- the number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse -- has doubled this year to 44 percent, and it rises to 54 percent, among those who report serious financial hardship from gas prices." It looks as though it will be pretty relevant this election. Maybe it wasn't relevant in previous years because it wasn't as large of an issue. People can't afford to put gas in their cars to go to work is not relevant? Pretty relevant I'd say. Geeezz. No kidding! |
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The price of gasoline is damaging not just Americans' finances and mobility -- but the public's broader economic sentiment, and with it, Barack Obama's re-election prospects. You wish... Gas prices have been going up forever. They go up and down and down and up. It is all politics. There is no gas or oil shortage. Big business controls those things. |
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