Topic: Question
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Tue 11/01/11 12:30 PM
What is getting waisted? Are you going to get together and wear things around your waists?

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Tue 11/01/11 02:16 PM

What is getting waisted? Are you going to get together and wear things around your waists?


It's a start.

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Tue 11/01/11 06:31 PM

Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.

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Tue 11/01/11 06:40 PM


Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


People don't like things that are different sometimes. If they normally drink, they may find it weird when someone doesn't.

Real friends aren't going to worry about whether or not you want to drink. There are more important things in life.

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Tue 11/01/11 06:57 PM


Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


It's hard because for most people in your age range drinking is a given sweetie. If I am going to be totally honest with you I have to tell you it was the same way when I was in my twenties. I think you may also be an exception to the rule because as a non drinker you hang out with peeps who drink. I imagine they feel drinking adds a positive element to socializing and they want you to experience it along with them.

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Tue 11/01/11 07:57 PM



Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


It's hard because for most people in your age range drinking is a given sweetie. If I am going to be totally honest with you I have to tell you it was the same way when I was in my twenties. I think you may also be an exception to the rule because as a non drinker you hang out with peeps who drink. I imagine they feel drinking adds a positive element to socializing and they want you to experience it along with them.


I'm almost at the point I don't want to go out anymore.

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Tue 11/01/11 08:38 PM
To me the drinking thing is the abnormal behavior. You shouldn't feel strange about it. Just because others like the feel of getting tipsy and you like the feel of being clear of thought doesn't make you the odd man out. It just means there is a different crowd for you possibly or a crowd that sees you as cool because of being clear.

To me, being focused is being high. I've never gained any sense of focus drinking or doing drugs. It freaks me out to enter into the world that so many defend as being something different than what it is "a break from clarity". My friend even if 90% of the people around you are drinkers and you are not joining in, you are not the odd man out, and you are certainly not odd. People find different ways to relax, unwind, or get high. Some of us are built to be straight and others to check in and check out.

Except your wiring as a gift. In todays world it serves you well.

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Tue 11/01/11 08:38 PM
Edited by mg1959 on Tue 11/01/11 08:41 PM

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Tue 11/01/11 08:48 PM
Personally no, That is the choice they have made, a friend should honor it.
And besides what kind of friend are you to push something on someone who doesn't want it?

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Tue 11/01/11 09:07 PM

To me the drinking thing is the abnormal behavior. You shouldn't feel strange about it. Just because others like the feel of getting tipsy and you like the feel of being clear of thought doesn't make you the odd man out. It just means there is a different crowd for you possibly or a crowd that sees you as cool because of being clear.

To me, being focused is being high. I've never gained any sense of focus drinking or doing drugs. It freaks me out to enter into the world that so many defend as being something different than what it is "a break from clarity". My friend even if 90% of the people around you are drinkers and you are not joining in, you are not the odd man out, and you are certainly not odd. People find different ways to relax, unwind, or get high. Some of us are built to be straight and others to check in and check out.

Except your wiring as a gift. In todays world it serves you well.


I don't really see either as abnormal behavior. People can have fun while drinking or not drinking. Saying one is abnormal is pretty much saying something is wrong with it, which is not true for either.

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Tue 11/01/11 09:31 PM

if somebody is trying to push you into drinking then I don't think they are much of a friend....JMHO


And would be even worse as a love interest.

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Tue 11/01/11 10:03 PM

What people like to do is their business. Smoking, drinking, doing drugs.

I just don't want to live with them.




I used to think like this. That as long as it was behind someone else's door it was not my business.

But when it becomes unbearable to live in a neighborhood because the smoking, drinking, drugs suck down the resources so badly that even the people who make good choices can not get help, that innocent children have to set in houses getting fat because the parks are not fit to play in, and when you walk in the street it feels like you are wadeing in an ash tray regardless to what the laws say about rights and responsibility I wonder if personal freedom has to be checked?

Right now the medical costs alone are bankrupting folks.

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Tue 11/01/11 10:08 PM


Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


Because our "society" has been brainwashed into believeing that is how you have fun and you are somehow suspect that you can have fun without it.

Personally I don't see it is fun, tastes good, or even feels good to have alcohol in my body.

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Tue 11/01/11 10:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 11/01/11 10:15 PM




Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


It's hard because for most people in your age range drinking is a given sweetie. If I am going to be totally honest with you I have to tell you it was the same way when I was in my twenties. I think you may also be an exception to the rule because as a non drinker you hang out with peeps who drink. I imagine they feel drinking adds a positive element to socializing and they want you to experience it along with them.


I'm almost at the point I don't want to go out anymore.


Poor baby. sad Everyone wants you to become an alcoholic! You have no will of your own. You can't stand the peer pressure.

For sure, if you continue to go out you will succumb to the temptations of peer pressure and start drinking.

(Its true if you hang out in bars too much you will eventually take a drink.)

So find some other fun activity besides hanging out with drinkers in bars.

Take up a hobby. (preferably one that includes a lot of men.)










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Wed 11/02/11 04:02 PM
I was wondering willn1k if there are any clubs/groups that you could join that abstain from alcohol. I see in your profile you are from Chicago so I assume a city that size would have those types of groups. Just a thought.

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Wed 11/02/11 07:24 PM





Hey Will, listen to Navy and Sweet, listen to me, we are telling you straight. When someone offers to buy you a drink just smile, say thanks, and order a coke. Know what I mean? Smooth and easy, it's all about the smile. You have no obligation to explain your choice, you have no reason to feel pressure. Take the ball out of play man, your in control..flowers


I will always say no, that is not the problem. I just want to know why is it so hard for people to understand I never want to drink.


It's hard because for most people in your age range drinking is a given sweetie. If I am going to be totally honest with you I have to tell you it was the same way when I was in my twenties. I think you may also be an exception to the rule because as a non drinker you hang out with peeps who drink. I imagine they feel drinking adds a positive element to socializing and they want you to experience it along with them.


I'm almost at the point I don't want to go out anymore.


Poor baby. sad Everyone wants you to become an alcoholic! You have no will of your own. You can't stand the peer pressure.

For sure, if you continue to go out you will succumb to the temptations of peer pressure and start drinking.

(Its true if you hang out in bars too much you will eventually take a drink.)

So find some other fun activity besides hanging out with drinkers in bars.

Take up a hobby. (preferably one that includes a lot of men.)












I will never try it,no one can talk me into it, I just wish people stop trying. I do have other hobbies, I just like to hang out with my friends, and they never try to get me to drink it always the new people.

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Thu 11/03/11 10:55 AM
Why would you waste your time wishing people would act the way you want them to act?

laugh laugh

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Thu 11/03/11 07:26 PM
probably would try, but not force it.

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Thu 11/03/11 07:29 PM
no way....take them as they are. It takes a lot of guts to stand your ground....that would be a good friend, but what a crappy friend you would be to try to make them falter

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Thu 11/03/11 07:57 PM

personal choices are personal. i would ask a friend to try something new (whatever it may be) but if they declined, i would leave it alone. from that point forward i would not invite that friend to any activity that included what the friend declined. i would look for other things to do, or accept an invitation from that friend to do other things that did not include what the friend refrains from doing


This pretty much sums it up