All I can realy do Mr Conrad is point out the massive hypocracy
I can try to inform others and remain informed myself.
I can support the occupy movement
I can hope Mr conrad because if we continue to follow the same course advocated by you and others things will only get worse.

Havent you folks done enough damage yet? How much more do you want?


I made some awsome Chilli Mr Conrad I think I will go eat some and take a nap in front of the fire because I have a long night ahead.

Its also Barnes and Nobles starbucks coffee night and I will need my strength to move all of George. w Bush's unsold half off books back to crime section.

Another attempt at Israel bashing brought to you by the same guys who
constantly repeatedly and redundantly make fools out of themselves
with anti-Israel threads!



Israel has had an incredibly responsible nuclear program. Although
they never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and will not
acknowledge or deny having nuclear weapons, the Israelis have never
had any nuclear accident or built a profusion of hidden or fortified
bunkers. Israel has not tested any nuclear weapons and have not
threatened anyone with annihilation. Israel society is free and open
with freedom of the press, freedom of religion and political
participation from all Israeli citizens regardless of sex, race or
religion.

Iran on the other hand is recognized the world over as the worst
terrorist sponsoring nation on the planet. An intolerant Islamic
theocracy Iran now persecutes any of her own citizens who are not
allowed to express opinions against Islam or the theocracy. Iran
did sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty but violate their
commitment continuously, building fortified bunkers and doing
bomb research while lying to the international community. Iran
also openly calls for genocide in Israel and the United States and
gives weapons to people who kill innocent men, women and children
just because they observe a different religion or have different
Islamic beliefs. Iran openly calls for killing innocent people in
the United States and Israel.

This is why no one has any worries about Israel's nuclear program
and why everyone agrees that the intolerant religiously perverted
violent terrorist supplier Iran should never have access to nuclear
arms.

Your propaganda may fool you but it doesnt fool me and many others. I realy dont have time to go over this absurd post. If in your spare time you can post some facts to back up this propaganda that would be great.

so you ate some Chili!

Seriously just read your post. Isreal does not have secret bunkers?

The fact that no one can inspect and verrify totaly makes thatan absurd statement.

Thats just for starters but life goes on and this topic can wait.

Don't take it from me - read the November 2011 IAEA report!

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VIENNA | Tue Nov 8, 2011 4:35pm EST

(Reuters) - The U.N. nuclear watchdog issued Tuesday its most detailed report to date pointing to research, experiments and other activities in Iran geared to developing the capability to make nuclear bombs.

Here are some of the highlights from the report distributed to member states of the International Atomic Energy Agency:

POSSIBLE MILITARY DIMENSIONS TO IRAN'S WORK:

"While some of the activities identified in the (report's) annex have civilian as well as military applications, others are specific to nuclear weapons," the report said.

"The information indicates that prior to the end of 2003 the above activities took place under a structured program. There are also indications that some activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device continued after 2003, and that some may still be ongoing."

"The Agency has serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear program. After assessing carefully and critically the extensive information available to it, the Agency finds the information to be, overall, credible. The information indicates that Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device."

"The Agency is concerned because some of the activities undertaken after 2003 would be highly relevant to a nuclear weapon program."

TECHNICAL FINDINGS:

The below includes extracts from the annex to the IAEA report which cites information from member states the agency has assessed as credible.

Iran has:

-- Sought to procure equipment, materials and services which would be useful in the development of a nuclear explosive device. These include high speed electronic switches and spark gaps which could be used for triggering and firing detonators, neutron sources, radiation detection and measuring equipment, training courses on topics relevant to nuclear explosives development.

-- Been provided with nuclear explosive design information, a member of a clandestine nuclear supply network told the agency in 2007.

-- Sought information on how to convert highly-enriched uranium into a metal, a step needed to make a nuclear core for a weapon.

-- Developed "exploding bridgewire detonators." "Iran's development of such detonators and equipment is a matter of concern," the report said, citing links to an initiation system.

-- Conducted high-scale explosive experiments in the region of Marivan.

-- Manufactured simulated nuclear explosive components using high density materials such as tungsten.

-- Built a large explosives containment vessel to conduct experiments at Parchin in 2000.

-- Carried out nuclear device modeling studies in 2008 and 2009.

-- Worked to manufacture small capsules suitable for carrying components filled with nuclear material. Such components could be used in a fission chain reaction. This work may have continued after 2004.

-- Planned and carried out preliminary experiments which would be useful for the testing of a nuclear bomb.

-- Studied how to fit payloads onto the re-entry vehicle of a Shahab 3 missile and examined how they would function in theory during launch and flight. The activities may be relevant to a non-nuclear payload but would be highly relevant to a nuclear weapon program, the IAEA said.

-- Worked on developing a prototype firing system which would allow a payload to explode in the air above a target, or upon hitting the ground in the missile re-entry vehicle.

From the main report:

-- Iran has started moving nuclear material to the underground Fordow nuclear site and installed two cascades of 174 enrichment machines. They were not yet connected and were the old IR-1 model which Iran has installed at its main Natanz enrichment plant.

-- Iran has 8,000 installed centrifuge machines at Fordow, around 6,200 are in operation. It has produced 4,922 kg of low-enriched uranium since 2007, or enough for a handful of nuclear weapons if enriched to higher levels.

(Reporting by Sylvia Westall and Fredrik Dahl; Editing by Jon Hemming)

US, Russia and UK back Israel at Mideast meeting
By GEORGE JAHN
Associated Press
2011-11-22 09:50 PM




Syrian Arab Republic Ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Bassam Sabbagh leaves the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak)
In a boost to Israel, Russia joined the U.S. and Britain on Tuesday in backing the Jewish state's view that the Middle East cannot be turned into a nuclear arms-free zone without progress on regional peace.

The three nations _ who are charged with registering new members to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty _ also blunted Arab efforts to get them involved creating such a zone, telling an International Atomic Energy Agency meeting that was the sole responsibility of countries in the region.

The three-nation statement was made at a rare venue _ a meeting bringing Israel and the Arab states together for a discussion of how to work toward establishing a Mideast nuclear-arms free zone. While nearly 100 nations attended the forum, it was primarily meant to allow those two opposing camps to exchange views on the issue _ one of many dividing Israel from its Arab neighbors.

Organizers had warned against high expectations, and officials at the closed two-day meeting said it ended Friday without bridging the differences.

"This was a small positive step," said Norwegian Ambassador Jan Petersen, who chaired the gathering, acknowledging "there is a very, very long way ahead" to reach the goal of a Mideast nuclear-weapons free zone.

"There are a lot of difficult issues, which will have to be tackled," he told reporters.

Still the three-nation statement was significant. Russia is traditionally in the Arab corner and Moscow's decision to join Washington and London in the joint statement of support for Israel's view was a rare nod from Moscow recognizing Israel's security concerns.

"While Nuclear Weapon-Free zones improve the security of the entire international community, they do not exist in isolation from other security factors," said the statement which was shared with The Associated Press. Any such zone, it said must see "the states in the region united in their aspiration to provide for strengthened regional stability and security."

That dovetails with Israel's view that peace must prevail in the Middle East before it can be made into a nuclear free zone. But it clashes with the Arab position that the two issues are separate.

The Arabs say Israel's undeclared nuclear arsenal represents the biggest threat to Mideast peace. But Israel says Iran is the greatest threat to the region through its refusal to heed U.N. Security Council resolutions demanding it stop activities that could be used to make nuclear weapons and suspected research and development of such capabilities. Tehran denies any interest in such arms.

Iran boycotted the meeting. But a decision last year by the 189 members of the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty to convene a U.N.-sponsored conference on establishing a Middle East nuclear-free zone in 2012 was an incentive for Israel's Arab neighbors to come to the exploratory Vienna talks _ even if there are no formal links between the two.

"Hopefully, we were able to identify quite a lot of issues which will be useful" at that conference, Petersen said.

Arab countries and Iran are aware of the potential of using the 2012 U.N. conference as a platform to pressure Israel to fulfill their long-standing demands: joining the nonproliferation treaty, acknowledging that it has nuclear weapons and allowing IAEA inspectors to probe its atomic activities.

Israel is unlikely to do any of that. It remains unclear whether it will even attend the 2012 talks and came to the Vienna meeting only under the stipulation that it remain a nonbinding give-and-take on the issue of nuclear-free zones in general.

Petersen noted that international pressure on Iran had grown since a Nov. 8 IAEA report that was the most thorough to date on backing up suspicions that Tehran is conducting research and development of nuclear arms.

"They have one more question to answer now," he said about Iran's decision to stay away. "I don't think it was particularly helpful to their cause.

The three-nation statement also sought to put into context the value of the meeting _ which featured presentations on nuclear-free zones elsewhere.

It said "zones free of nuclear weapons cannot be created counter to the will of the countries of the region by the efforts of extra-regional powers or international organizations." That was an rebuttal of an Arab push to get powers that are members of the Nonproliferation Treaty involved in creating a Mideast nuclear-free region.

Participants said most speakers avoided polemics. But on Monday, Syria">Syria _ among Israel's bitterest Mideast rivals _ used the gathering to accuse Israel of posing a "grave and serious threat" through its undeclared atomic arsenal.

Israel, for its part, restated its view: no discussions on a nuclear-free zone without peace in the Middle East.

"Experience shows that such a process can only be launched when normal, peaceful relations exist in the region, when the threat perception of all regional members is low, and only after basic confidence is established among states of the region," David Danieli, Israel's deputy nuclear chief, said in comments provided to the AP.

For now, he said, "political instability, open hostilities, deep mistrust and noncompliance with international obligations are too common in many parts of the Middle East."


http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1767602

A quick read of this heading out the door realy is not definitive at all.

It seems that the items could be used or might be used and its the same rubbish they used to justify the Iraq war (that turned out real good for america)

I was suprised to see they didnt mention any yellow cake from Nigeria.

Or mobile chemical weapons labs

Again though Israels aresenal is ignored.

Mass hypocracy.

Without being a conspiracy theorists its safe to say that Jews own allmost all forms of media in the US, its no big suprise that people are so propagated and misinformed.

what's Hypocrates got to do with anything?

so now we are back at Jewbashing again,are we?

Concise, excellent synopsis of the situation.
Peace in the region first and foremost requires no nukes for terrorists and Iran which is their biggest supplier.

No doubt, everyone knew Plame was CIA, it was what they call an "Open Secret' for a couple years prior to the whole incident.

Iran is far from being open and transparent from the IAEA. Hell, just look at the damn explosion at one of their nucular sites and wont let the IAEA in to see what the hell happend, we wouldn't even know about it if it wasn't for spy satellites.

Oh yeah, we wern't playing catch up being we along with Israel and sent a nasty little virus that took Irans nuclear facality offasline until recently and they think we did some perminantly

Just because you do not like the Facts does not mean its "Jew Bashing".

To gain a greater understanding of an issue facts are all that matter.

The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the price of collective stupidity.
“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

Interesting that you say one can criticize God but not Israel.

What might be more significant is the fact that Americans seem to be afraid to criticize America.

The Media has done a wonderful job of closing down free speech.

A lot of people are well informed but are afraid to speak out.

Better to die on your feet that live on your knees

Iran has its Faults.....so has America and America needs to sort itself out.

Changing Obama is not the Answer.

Obama is Americas best hope right now once he deals with the Jewish Lobby and he will do that in the second half of his second Term

"Facts" he calls them things!

Haha, a fake person with a fake quote from an anti-Jewish website. Optomistic - what makes me think I should never believe your quotes and posts!!!

Hey your right this one got me. It is disinformation, however it does not change the fact that.

ITS BASICLY A GOOD ASSESMENT of the current climate.

Says you, Optomistic and probably Jellybean, but not many else. Israel has many more supporters than you would wish to think, so with all your comspiracy theories, hate, thinking the Jews will take over the world, blah blah blah, your views are totally off the wall

US, Russia and UK back Israel at Mideast meeting
By GEORGE JAHN
Associated Press
2011-11-22 09:50 PM




Syrian Arab Republic Ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Bassam Sabbagh leaves the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak) Jan Petersen, Norwegian Ambassador to the IAEA and chairperson of the forum on creating a Nuclear-Weapon-Free-Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East, speaks during a news conference after a meeting at the International Center, in Vienna, Austria, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011. (AP Photo/Ronald Zak)
In a boost to Israel, Russia joined the U.S. and Britain on Tuesday in backing the Jewish state's view that the Middle East cannot be turned into a nuclear arms-free zone without progress on regional peace.

The three nations _ who are charged with registering new members to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty _ also blunted Arab efforts to get them involved creating such a zone, telling an International Atomic Energy Agency meeting that was the sole responsibility of countries in the region.

The three-nation statement was made at a rare venue _ a meeting bringing Israel and the Arab states together for a discussion of how to work toward establishing a Mideast nuclear-arms free zone. While nearly 100 nations attended the forum, it was primarily meant to allow those two opposing camps to exchange views on the issue _ one of many dividing Israel from its Arab neighbors.

Organizers had warned against high expectations, and officials at the closed two-day meeting said it ended Friday without bridging the differences.

"This was a small positive step," said Norwegian Ambassador Jan Petersen, who chaired the gathering, acknowledging "there is a very, very long way ahead" to reach the goal of a Mideast nuclear-weapons free zone.

"There are a lot of difficult issues, which will have to be tackled," he told reporters.

Still the three-nation statement was significant. Russia is traditionally in the Arab corner and Moscow's decision to join Washington and London in the joint statement of support for Israel's view was a rare nod from Moscow recognizing Israel's security concerns.

"While Nuclear Weapon-Free zones improve the security of the entire international community, they do not exist in isolation from other security factors," said the statement which was shared with The Associated Press. Any such zone, it said must see "the states in the region united in their aspiration to provide for strengthened regional stability and security."

That dovetails with Israel's view that peace must prevail in the Middle East before it can be made into a nuclear free zone. But it clashes with the Arab position that the two issues are separate.

The Arabs say Israel's undeclared nuclear arsenal represents the biggest threat to Mideast peace. But Israel says Iran is the greatest threat to the region through its refusal to heed U.N. Security Council resolutions demanding it stop activities that could be used to make nuclear weapons and suspected research and development of such capabilities. Tehran denies any interest in such arms.

Iran boycotted the meeting. But a decision last year by the 189 members of the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty to convene a U.N.-sponsored conference on establishing a Middle East nuclear-free zone in 2012 was an incentive for Israel's Arab neighbors to come to the exploratory Vienna talks _ even if there are no formal links between the two.

"Hopefully, we were able to identify quite a lot of issues which will be useful" at that conference, Petersen said.

Arab countries and Iran are aware of the potential of using the 2012 U.N. conference as a platform to pressure Israel to fulfill their long-standing demands: joining the nonproliferation treaty, acknowledging that it has nuclear weapons and allowing IAEA inspectors to probe its atomic activities.

Israel is unlikely to do any of that. It remains unclear whether it will even attend the 2012 talks and came to the Vienna meeting only under the stipulation that it remain a nonbinding give-and-take on the issue of nuclear-free zones in general.

Petersen noted that international pressure on Iran had grown since a Nov. 8 IAEA report that was the most thorough to date on backing up suspicions that Tehran is conducting research and development of nuclear arms.

"They have one more question to answer now," he said about Iran's decision to stay away. "I don't think it was particularly helpful to their cause.

The three-nation statement also sought to put into context the value of the meeting _ which featured presentations on nuclear-free zones elsewhere.

It said "zones free of nuclear weapons cannot be created counter to the will of the countries of the region by the efforts of extra-regional powers or international organizations." That was an rebuttal of an Arab push to get powers that are members of the Nonproliferation Treaty involved in creating a Mideast nuclear-free region.

Participants said most speakers avoided polemics. But on Monday, Syria">Syria _ among Israel's bitterest Mideast rivals _ used the gathering to accuse Israel of posing a "grave and serious threat" through its undeclared atomic arsenal.

Israel, for its part, restated its view: no discussions on a nuclear-free zone without peace in the Middle East.

"Experience shows that such a process can only be launched when normal, peaceful relations exist in the region, when the threat perception of all regional members is low, and only after basic confidence is established among states of the region," David Danieli, Israel's deputy nuclear chief, said in comments provided to the AP.

For now, he said, "political instability, open hostilities, deep mistrust and noncompliance with international obligations are too common in many parts of the Middle East."


http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1767602

War on Iran has already begun. Act before it threatens all of us



They don't give up. After a decade of blood-drenched failure in Afghanistan and Iraq, violent destabilisation of Pakistan and Yemen, the devastation of Lebanon and slaughter in Libya, you might hope the US and its friends had had their fill of invasion and intervention in the Muslim world.

It seems not. For months the evidence has been growing that a US-Israeli stealth war against Iran has already begun.