It seems there are those who blame the President for all the worlds problems...the Bush haters, blinded by leftist media propanganda that distorts and changes or refuses to publish relevant data to support their sources. Is there not anything he has done that's been good....you would not think so by the left media..but how about the FACT (that of course is not reported by the liberal news media) that the economy is the biggest and strongest economy in fifty years...despite 911, the oil prices etc. What about N.Korea? The Clinton Admin. sold N Korea nuclear tech even after N.Korea broke every promise and agreement they had with us...yet when Bush inhereted this problem..he was tough and after all the liberal bashing for not talking to N.Korea one on one..N Korea has shut down there main nuclear reactor (Saturday) and have now agreed to multiparty talks...but you won't see any credit given to his get tough stance with terrorist nations because it proved the liberals wrong...How about Education..after almost 15 years of declining SAT scores of high school students ..we have had almost 4 straight years of higher SAT scores after the "no child left behind" program started six years ago (it took a couple years to see results)..All of you are making and KEEPING more money because of his tax cuts...which the liberals said would raise our deficit to 800 trillion by 2006...just the oppisite has happened...the national debt is getting smaller because although our taxes are lower...it created more jobs and more people paying taxes (more revenue for the government)with less of a burden on individuals...speaking of employment...Unemployment is the lowest it has ever been..period...EVER...it is statistcally non-existant at less then 4.5%(I know I'll hear about that..lol) so...I guess if Bush does anything good...media looks the other way...if his policy stumbles alittle about how we fight a war (which there has never been a perfect war)then we slam him and blame all the problems created by terrorists on Bush....Well I will Slam Bush too if he ever cowers to the left, socialist communists that call themselves Democrats and he retreats from our fight against the Islamic Facists that want to rule the world at whatever means they can use..including the propaganda the liberal left give them!buddies!

yup what he said.

i don't blame bush for everything and am perfectly willing to see how everything turns out. my main issues with him were his politics and reasons for going to war in iraq. i don't have any statistics right now on the economy broken down by classes nor do i have any on the no child left behind but when i get them if your right i'll gladly give him his due.

even though i didn't agree with going to iraq in the first place the issue now that were there is different and i think they need to give the surge time before they judge him on that one.

Well King..thats all anyone can ask...if you don't agree with his going to Iraq..I respect your opinion...but at least you are willing to see what transpires and are not giving the enemy more re-cruiting power and giving them the proverbial "light at the end of the tunnel" by bashing and promoting defeat like others do

The majority of Americans, Senators and Congressmen supported going to war with Iraq. If Bush hadn't sent troops in, the democrats would have started the Impeachment process because Bush wouldn't have been doing his duty of protecting the country.

Also King...."i don't have any statistics right now on the economy broken down by classes " why should you want to break it down by classes...that is the socialists (liberal Dems) motto.....if you want socialism...go to Cuba or elsewhere.

Serchin4MyRedWine,

I think he was talking about character class, not social class. You know, Ranger, Fighter, Mage, etc

i don't have to be a socialist or go to cuba to understand that most of thetax cuts bush made went to people who made far more money than i do do i? i can appreciate the fact that they get taxed more because they make more and they have every right to as much of that money as they can get but i think when you look at the way the tax rates are set up i end up losing a bigger percentage of my net check. it's not a secret that during republicans tax plans that the upper echelon benefit in far greater margins meaning that they are reaping the benefits.

the no child left behind act was a good idea but i don't think you should rush that into your argument just yet. he basically overhauled theold system with new(and better)goals which i commend him for but in the school districts that i am aware they are failing miserably with it at risk of losing funding. i hope it works but i don't see it working yet.

as far as the national debt is concerned i thought it went up. i have to check it out to make sure but i was under the impression that it was heading in the oppossite direction.

Its not all Bush's fault...he just acts like a moron most of the time and its easy to pin it on him

no spider..King is like many...they have very short memories...when they say "why did we go to Iraq" ..they forgot how Saddam and his Army invaded, killed and raped thousands of Kuwait citizens when he entered that country to take over their oil resources....they forget that for 12 years he shot at our forces that were enforcing the UN mandated "no-fly" zone (at an incredible cost to us I might add) and with his past history of war with Iran, Turkey and Kuwait...along with his use of Chemical weapons on the Kurds in N. Iraq..along with the fact that he repeatedly snubbed his nose at UN inspections...we could not take a chance that this man was on a course to aquire WMD and use them...if intel was wrong (which many have disputed) its better to err on the other side with his history. But of course.according to liberals.its only about oil...LOL

as for the so called tax cuts for the rich.... lets do the math. tax cuts for the rich equals more profit for them which equals more jobs for the rest of us which equals a better economic base which equals more oppertunities for the rest of us.

But they are outsourcing most of those jobs tho

King..sorry I don't want it to seem like I am bashing you..you have some good points....but look at the real stats about taxes before you give the Democrats favorite propaganda...the top 15% of the weathy pay 80% of the taxes...the bottom 25% only pay 5% of the taxes...the rest (15%) are payed by 60% of the people...so if anything..the rich get slamed more then anyone.But the Dems always use class envy as a propagana tool (its easy to hate the rich..LOL )to make it look like our system is bad and unfair...I'd like to see all tax brackets abolished and everyone pay a flat tax on goods...but that will never happen...because the more money they tax from you..the more control they have over you...One other point..the wealthy create jobs by investing and buying expensive goods...if you tax the hell out of them by issuing high luxury taxes, capital gain taxes etc...they will just let that money sit...if you open the door...they buy big boats, planes, (which creates more jobs...they invest in small and big business (which creates even more jobs) so making the rich out to be the Evil ones does not make much sense...they are willing to pay their share as they do...and they keep the economy moving.

guess who started that ball rolling? everyones favorite ex president, Clinton. Bush gets blamed for a lot of things that the clintonistas made a mess out of, including the war.

Clinton has nothing to do with the war, it started AFTER he was out of office.

it only equals more jobs for us when they don't use that to outsource. if you have ever lived in a low income neighborhood you'd know that trickle down economics don't work for anyone below upper middle class..ooppps they don't exist anymore.
i don't have a short memory rambill because if i remember correctly they weren't using old history for a reason for an attack untill all of theother **** fell through and like most republicans or bush supporters, they ate it right up. i don't know about you but when someone lies to me 3, 4 times in a row i don't consider the ancient news that he throws out next. ain't it funny how he only decided to atone saddams dirty deeds after he was proven to be wrong on his first couple reasons. was the barrel getting thin and he just ran out of excuses or was it a wrong that he truly wanted to right for no other reason than it was the right thing to do?

you say they only pay 5% of the taxes but look how much they are left with after those taxes compared to the rich. granted they pay more taxes because they make more but after those taxes they have a bigger PERCENTAGE. do you remember what it was like to cash your check and have $175 left to your name for rent, food, utilities and god forbid if you have a car. poor kids eat just as much as rich kids man and it ain't easy when you are left with change to live off of after working your 40 or 50 hours a week.

Well Bill...mistakes were made by many..goinging all the way back to Carter through Clinton (including Republican Presidents Reagan and Bush 1) When Iran and Iraq were at war with each other..we had to choose the lesser of the two evils...and sometimes both...so we armed either side so no one could win and dominate all the oil resources in the area ..a vital national security issue. After the War with Iraq, Saddam had many of our waepons at his disposal and when he started using them on his peaceful neighbors (Kuwait and Saudia Arabia) that changed things drastically....so now Bush has to clean up the mess that has developed over the last 20 or more years and he is taking all the blame.

don't get me wrong man. i'm not trying to make the rich out to be evil at all. most of them earned their money and they deserve to be able to do with it as they wish. i'm all for them being rich, i don't hate on people. it's just kinda hard to have been down there looking up at everything. i was lucky because my mom wasn't that bad off but i remember kids at school who only had a chance to eat a meal when they were at school through the free lunch program otherwise they would have gone hungry. their parent(usually single parent home)worked AT LEAST one job but with thesmall minimum wage check and taxes on top of that there wasn't a whole lot left for the bills and food. i'm actually a pretty consevative person as far as my values and belifs go but i don't think we do enough for the poor in our country. one interesting tidbit and i'll have to find it in print somewhere or you'll probably accuse me of left wing propaganda but when bush initially made his "tax cuts" do you know that he achieved them cuts by cutting alot of low income programs?

cloudy... has short memory syndrome, a trait commom to liberals.