Topic: Are any of these statements true?
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Mon 01/23/12 02:32 PM

3rd question: Women want financial stability. Men want to support a woman. It is something in us that makes us want to support our woman.


Throughout history, marriage has been a trade of resources. Sex for security. Now that women can be secure without a man, they are less likely to give up the sex.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:32 PM
Yes.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:33 PM



I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.


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Mon 01/23/12 02:33 PM



I believe that there are plenty of men who would be faithful to their wives, even if they could get away with it.

Women who are worried about what their husband might do, should instead focus on what they can control: How much sex he has with her . If she is keeping him busy, his eye will be much less likely to wander.


It's funny you say that...I was reading another article about a man wanting to draw up a sex contract with his intended because his other relationships had ended due the woman not wanting to have sex anymore. The contract stated that his wife would have sex with him at least twice a week.


It's unfortunate that some wives don't care for their husband's needs.


It's unfortunate that some people don't see to their partner's needs..it can go both ways!

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Mon 01/23/12 02:34 PM

I believe that there are plenty of men who would be faithful to their wives, even if they could get away with it.

Women who are worried about what their husband might do, should instead focus on what they can control: How much sex he has with her. If she is keeping him busy, his eye will be much less likely to wander.


Agree.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:34 PM

Perhaps he wasn't meeting her needs and that's why she wasn't interested in sex with him anymore?


That's entirely possible, but it takes two to make a relationship work. If she wasn't doing her wifely duties, because he wasn't doing his husbandly duties, that doesn't make her right, it makes them both wrong.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:34 PM
Well, maybe... idk.
Are they true? You tell me.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:38 PM


Perhaps he wasn't meeting her needs and that's why she wasn't interested in sex with him anymore?


That's entirely possible, but it takes two to make a relationship work. If she wasn't doing her wifely duties, because he wasn't doing his husbandly duties, that doesn't make her right, it makes them both wrong.


It goes both ways. They should be meeting each others' needs. Either way, we don't know what happened. It's easy to make assumptions for either person.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:38 PM

Well, maybe... idk.
Are they true? You tell me.


yes and no..

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Mon 01/23/12 02:39 PM


I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


It's honest, in that he probably does believe that, but it's a projection of his own values and motivations onto other men. So he's being honest, but what he said isn't true.


I personally agreed but I am also mindful that (most) people tend to socialise with likeminded people and these could be the opinions of his social circle as well.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:41 PM

"If" is a big word like "It". They just look small.:smile:


That's very true.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:41 PM
Men and women both have needs in a relationship. Sex is a huge one for men. Women's are generally emotional.

Meet my need for emotional security and you'll have more sex than you can handle. It's just what gets me hot. love

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Mon 01/23/12 02:42 PM

Men and women both have needs in a relationship. Sex is a huge one for men. Women's are generally emotional.

Meet my need for emotional security and you'll have more sex than you can handle. It's just what gets me hot. love


I'll get right on that.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:43 PM




I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:44 PM



I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


It's honest, in that he probably does believe that, but it's a projection of his own values and motivations onto other men. So he's being honest, but what he said isn't true.


I personally agreed but I am also mindful that (most) people tend to socialise with likeminded people and these could be the opinions of his social circle as well.


Still.
Douche-itis.

If I hung out with all homosexuals and then proclaimed:
"Everyone is gay."

That still wouldn't make it a fact; even if that is all I personally know.

A professional editor/journalist knows to refrain from words such as:
All. Every. Never. Always. etc.

Otherwise...
You are entering douche-ism.
And will be bombarding by those outraged that you just categorized and judge them.

<----Example A. :D

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Mon 01/23/12 02:46 PM





I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.


I actually agree with him for once. I don't really see what's good about generalizing, as it's not usually true for the whole group being generalized about.

Just because the person you mentioned who made those statements in the OP thought those were true for him, he shouldn't be speaking for all men.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:46 PM


Perhaps he wasn't meeting her needs and that's why she wasn't interested in sex with him anymore?


That's entirely possible, but it takes two to make a relationship work. If she wasn't doing her wifely duties, because he wasn't doing his husbandly duties, that doesn't make her right, it makes them both wrong.


I really don't like the term "wifely duties".
It does take 2 to make a relationship work. I think that some men will stray no matter how much sex they get at home. Well, I know that. To be fair, that could work the same way with a woman.

The bottom line is that if you truely love someone and marry them, cheating is wrong and you have betrayed the trust. If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:47 PM





I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.


True.
However.

It's Journalism 101.
Generalizing is a no-no.
Unless you want a riot-of-words-and-debate on your hands.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:48 PM






I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.


I actually agree with him for once. I don't really see what's good about generalizing, as it's not usually true for the whole group being generalized about.

Just because the person you mentioned who made those statements in the OP thought those were true for him, he shouldn't be speaking for all men.


:heart: you too Sweet. :)

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Mon 01/23/12 02:50 PM







I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.


I actually agree with him for once. I don't really see what's good about generalizing, as it's not usually true for the whole group being generalized about.

Just because the person you mentioned who made those statements in the OP thought those were true for him, he shouldn't be speaking for all men.


:heart: you too Sweet. :)


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