Topic: Are any of these statements true?
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Mon 01/23/12 02:51 PM

I really don't like the term "wifely duties".


Okay, I'll try to only use it when appropriate.


It does take 2 to make a relationship work. I think that some men will stray no matter how much sex they get at home. Well, I know that. To be fair, that could work the same way with a woman.


There are some damaged people who are going to cheat no matter what, that's true.


The bottom line is that if you truely love someone and marry them, cheating is wrong and you have betrayed the trust.


I agree.


If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.


Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:51 PM

Well, maybe... idk.
Are they true? You tell me.


I think that for some they are true statements and for other's it isn't.

My brother is a sane rational man whose opinion I mostly respect and he believed that some are true.

I also think that most people can find a rationale to justify their behaviour.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:53 PM


Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?

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Mon 01/23/12 02:55 PM






I don't think he was being a douche..I think that from his point of view, he was being honest.


No.

An honest person would have said:

IMO I believe that most--

A douche says:

EVERY man would do it if they--

Only a douche speaks for an entire group, because no one in any given group will ever entirely and fully agree with EVERY thing presented to them.

Taking an opinion and playing it out as if it were a proven fact..
It's douche-itis.




You made me laugh but I don't agree..it's normal (whatever that is) to generalise. I for one and guilty of it :smile:.


I actually agree with him for once. I don't really see what's good about generalizing, as it's not usually true for the whole group being generalized about.

Just because the person you mentioned who made those statements in the OP thought those were true for him, he shouldn't be speaking for all men.


I don't think that it is good to generalise. I was just recongising that most people tend to do it whether they acknowledge that they are or not.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:56 PM



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork

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Mon 01/23/12 02:57 PM



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


singmesweet,

In general, sex is demonstrably more important to men. In surveys of women, sex doesn't show up in their top five needs in a relationship, it always shows up as number one for men. Yes, women like sex, but they don't need it the same way that men do. As Ruth said earlier, women have emotional needs. A man who fulfills a woman's emotional needs is making her feel wanted and loved. Men get those same feelings when they have sex with a woman they love.

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Mon 01/23/12 02:58 PM




Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...

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Mon 01/23/12 03:00 PM




Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


:thumbsup:

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Mon 01/23/12 03:01 PM


1st question. Most men who don't get married do not want just one sex partner I would imagine. People who get married and have sex with other people are idiots in my opinion. If you are a sex addict don't get married lol.

2nd question: I think when a man or woman who is truly in love will not sleep with another person.

3rd question: Women want financial stability. Men want to support a woman. It is something in us that makes us want to support our woman.


Sex being the strongest urge for all species, "all for self propagation of their species."
Through out evolution (religion aside, okay) All females ( man and animal ) chose/choose the strongest of the male species to breed with (regarding Homosapien's many subscribe to this theory as still fact. Example being: the "Bad Boy".), while males only concerned with to carry on their gene lines.
A perfect example is In the animal kingdom, with some species 1 male will have a pride or herd for mating, and fight to the death to have this distinction.
It isn't till man evolved, religion and societies became practiced did man ( most anyway ) begin to control such urges and become monogamous.
Oh BTW, it's not really women wanting "...financial stability..." (which is the mature version of "Bad Boy"), or men wanting to support, it's more of a "hunt and gather" showing of strength, virility or prowess. Just the strongest urges all living creatures have, SEX.



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Mon 01/23/12 03:02 PM




Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


singmesweet,

In general, sex is demonstrably more important to men. In surveys of women, sex doesn't show up in their top five needs in a relationship, it always shows up as number one for men. Yes, women like sex, but they don't need it the same way that men do. As Ruth said earlier, women have emotional needs. A man who fulfills a woman's emotional needs is making her feel wanted and loved. Men get those same feelings when they have sex with a woman they love.


Well, you can either go by a survey, or what women actually say. Of course, some women aren't going to want/need/like sex as much as others. But many women do want sex just as much as men do. And yes, it's just as important.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:06 PM

If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.


Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.



What I was saying is that if the wife was taking care of his needs and he still cheated, then he has betrayed the trust and he should leave. In that case, sex became more important to him.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:08 PM
Edited by machug on Mon 01/23/12 03:13 PM



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


Exactly sweet!! It is important to women also. Surveys are a very minimal sampling. It is true that women need the emotional side more than men (usually), but that does not diminish our need or desire for sex.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:09 PM





Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...


I didn't say "as much as a man"

i said we like and need it

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Mon 01/23/12 03:10 PM



Perhaps he wasn't meeting her needs and that's why she wasn't interested in sex with him anymore?


That's entirely possible, but it takes two to make a relationship work. If she wasn't doing her wifely duties, because he wasn't doing his husbandly duties, that doesn't make her right, it makes them both wrong.


I really don't like the term "wifely duties".
It does take 2 to make a relationship work. I think that some men will stray no matter how much sex they get at home. Well, I know that. To be fair, that could work the same way with a woman.

The bottom line is that if you truely love someone and marry them, cheating is wrong and you have betrayed the trust. If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.


I agree with this..I would have so much respect for someone if they did leave before they cheated or at least discussed where he/she felt the relationship was failing before looking elsewhere but that very rarely happens.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:11 PM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Mon 01/23/12 03:13 PM


If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.


Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.



What I was saying is that if the wife was taking care of his needs and he still cheated, then he has betrayed the trust and he should leave. In that case, sex became more important to him.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

I am surprised that air wasn't included in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.:smile: Do you think Maslov was an alien?:smile:
Oh, okay. Breathing is air.:smile:

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Mon 01/23/12 03:12 PM






Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...


I didn't say "as much as a man"

i said we like and need it



I'll be honest, I get confused easily. It seemed that you were objecting me to saying that sex was more important to men than it is to women. I never suggested that women don't like sex. I made a simple statement of fact and thought that your post was an objection to that statement.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:14 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 01/23/12 03:18 PM




If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.



What I was saying is that if the wife was taking care of his needs and he still cheated, then he has betrayed the trust and he should leave. In that case, sex became more important to him.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

I am surprised that air wasn't included in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.:smile: Do you think Maslov was an alien?:smile:
Oh, okay. Breathing is air.:smile:


It is, it's in the bottom tier.

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Mon 01/23/12 03:15 PM




If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.



What I was saying is that if the wife was taking care of his needs and he still cheated, then he has betrayed the trust and he should leave. In that case, sex became more important to him.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

I am surprised that air wasn't included in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.:smile: Do you think Maslov was an alien?:smile:
Oh, okay. Breathing is air.:smile:


It is, it's in the bottom tier.


Good point.:smile:

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Mon 01/23/12 03:17 PM



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


If that was true...

Strippers wouldn't profit from the male's short attention span.

The occupations (illegal or otherwise)
Of escorts, hookers, sluts, and prostitution would, more than likely, not exist as much as they do presently.

Also.

How would you buy porn?

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Mon 01/23/12 03:17 PM
The point I was getting at was that sex is absolutely important to women. More so for some and less for others. I don't really care if it's more important to men or women. It's important for both. But reading through this thread, it seems that some people don't see that, so I was confused.