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Topic: The Problem With Evolution?
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Mon 01/30/12 12:21 PM










I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:


It was an accusation until it is proven a fact. Just as in science, something is a theory until proven to be a fact.

:tongue:


Well, for me, it remains fact,,,proven...:wink:

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Mon 01/30/12 12:21 PM






Yeah, true. God willed her egg to be fertilized and it was. No need for sex, no need for semen. With God all things are possible.


God filling Mary up with his Holy Spirit is how God spread his sperm


No, there was no sperm involved. They did not have sex. Sperm is what God has given us for procreation. God doesn't have to use any sperm. He wills it and it's done.

God willed for Marry to be conceived with Jesus and it was done. No sperm, no sex, no foreplay, no dinner, just that simple, God willed it to be and it was done.


The Holy Ghost entering into Mary is an indication that God didn't "Will It"

this is what some denomiations of Christians claim that "The Holy Spirit" is not a God but an Angel...so that God will not be blame for having sex

and this is why The Trinity doesn't work because of the fact that The Holy Spirit is not credited with being The Father or Jesus


Incorrect, give one denomination that doesn't believe Jesus to be the son of God the father.

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



Jesus isn't the begotton son of the father...he is the begotton son of the holy spirit ...begotton refers to a biological child and you keep insisting that God didn't have sex




Luke 1:35
35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

God doesn't have to have sex to begat anyone. He wills it to be and it is.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:23 PM


All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God





Incorrect. Only his father knew the time of judgement.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:27 PM
Edited by funches on Mon 01/30/12 12:28 PM



All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God





Incorrect. Only his father knew the time of judgement.


so are you saying that the father isn't God?

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Mon 01/30/12 12:30 PM




All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God





Incorrect. Only his father knew the time of judgement.


so are you saying that the father isn't God?


Jesus and the father are one God. Jesus is our God and the Father is Jesus' God.

God = figure of authority.

Jesus does the will of the father and we do the will of Jesus.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:34 PM
Edited by funches on Mon 01/30/12 12:35 PM





All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God





Incorrect. Only his father knew the time of judgement.


so are you saying that the father isn't God?


Jesus and the father are one God. Jesus is our God and the Father is Jesus' God.

God = figure of authority.

Jesus does the will of the father and we do the will of Jesus.


see this is why Christians can't agree on Christianity because some of the denominations start acting delusional and resort to deception....clearly a result of Jesus speaking in parables

so once again yes or no....are you saying that The Father is not God

a God would know the time of judgment day....a false god wouldn't know

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Mon 01/30/12 12:38 PM






All Christians believe Jesus to be God.


God would know the time of judgement day...Jesus claimed that he didn't know...which provides the simply logic why Jesus can't be God





Incorrect. Only his father knew the time of judgement.


so are you saying that the father isn't God?


Jesus and the father are one God. Jesus is our God and the Father is Jesus' God.

God = figure of authority.

Jesus does the will of the father and we do the will of Jesus.


see this is why Christians can't agree on Christianity because some of the denominations start acting delusional and resort to deception....clearly a result of Jesus speaking in parables

so once again yes or no....are you saying that The Father is not God

a God would know the time of judgment day....a false god wouldn't know


A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority. That is why we are referred to as Gods in the scriptures eg., Know ye not that ye are Gods. And Jesus referred to his father as God eg., my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me. Jesus' father is the only one that know's the time of judgement.

Yes, the Father is God, already answered that eg., my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

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Mon 01/30/12 12:40 PM











I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:


It was an accusation until it is proven a fact. Just as in science, something is a theory until proven to be a fact.

:tongue:


Well, for me, it remains fact,,,proven...:wink:


lol, I like you. You're fun lol. :tongue:

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Mon 01/30/12 12:42 PM

A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?


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Mon 01/30/12 12:42 PM












I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:


It was an accusation until it is proven a fact. Just as in science, something is a theory until proven to be a fact.

:tongue:


Well, for me, it remains fact,,,proven...:wink:


lol, I like you. You're fun lol. :tongue:


Yeah, I like you too, that's why I keep hanging around here ......:laughing:


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Mon 01/30/12 12:46 PM


A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?

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Mon 01/30/12 12:46 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 01/30/12 12:48 PM













I treat non believers and believers the same. I share my beliefs, they share there's, this is the forum for that. No one's trying to change another's beliefs, or at least I'm not. I can't account for the motives behind everyone else.


Well, excuse me for saying so, but you better go back and re-read some of your own post...this post is in direct contradiction to a few other posts you made today....In the world of healthy debate, contradicting oneself is most always seen as a bad thing, especially when it comes to getting your point across or being viewed as believable....


Please do enlighten us with some of these posts that contradict this. You don't have to quote them eg., copy/paste. Just give the post number and we can go read this "contradiction".


No....look them up yourself...I can't read this stuff a second time...If you are not in denial, you will be able to find them....


But your the one that made the accusation. If you can not "prove" this accusation. Your words are empty, they are a lie for you can not show any different then that. Not meaning this as a bad thing towards you, nothing personal. Just you are making a personal accusation towards me that seems you can not prove.


The proof is in your words, they are here in this thread, just because I refuse to do the leg work for you does not mean that I do not speak the truth...semantics again....


No leg work for me, you're the one that made the accusation.


It was not an accusation, it was a statement of fact...:tongue:


It was an accusation until it is proven a fact. Just as in science, something is a theory until proven to be a fact.

:tongue:


Well, for me, it remains fact,,,proven...:wink:


lol, I like you. You're fun lol. :tongue:


Yeah, I like you too, that's why I keep hanging around here ......:laughing:




:D

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Mon 01/30/12 12:48 PM


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Mon 01/30/12 12:49 PM



A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?

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Mon 01/30/12 12:50 PM




A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?


No, never said that.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:51 PM



:) :) :) :) :)


flowerforyou


I edited my post in hopes to fix it lol. Thought it would put the little yellow smileys lol.

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Mon 01/30/12 12:52 PM





A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?


No, never said that.


you said that God is not a supernatural entity ....so which denomination of Christians believe that? ....do tell

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Mon 01/30/12 12:57 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 01/30/12 12:59 PM






A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?


No, never said that.


you said that God is not a supernatural entity ....so which denomination of Christians believe that? ....do tell


The term "God" is not directly speaking of any supernatural being. The term "God" is showing of superiority to another. We do not know God's name, so we refer to him as "God" as a name and showing of superiority over us.

Jesus only ever referred to him as "My God, or My Father". Never spoke of a name. Not in the scriptures we have in the bible anyways. And I assume if there was a scripture with his name, it would have been included. But nonetheless names don't matter. Names do not make you who you are, they to are just a title to give reference to whom you're speaking of.

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Mon 01/30/12 01:02 PM







A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?


No, never said that.


you said that God is not a supernatural entity ....so which denomination of Christians believe that? ....do tell


The term "God" is not directly speaking of any supernatural being. The term "God" is showing of superiority to another. We do not know God's name, so we refer to him as "God" as a name and showing of superiority over us.

Jesus only ever referred to him as "My God, or My Father". Never spoke of a name. Not in the scriptures we have in the bible anyways. And I assume if there was a scripture with his name, it would have been included. But nonetheless names don't matter. Names do not make you who you are, they to are just a title to give reference to whom you're speaking of.


sorry but I asked which denomination of Christians believe that God is not a supernatural entity .....




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Mon 01/30/12 01:08 PM








A "God" is not some supernatural being. "God" is a being in authority.


so Obama is God?




If you allow him to have total authority in your life, then yes he would be a God.

Do you wake up and then do Obama's will all day?



is Obama the God in the bible?


No, never said that.


you said that God is not a supernatural entity ....so which denomination of Christians believe that? ....do tell


The term "God" is not directly speaking of any supernatural being. The term "God" is showing of superiority to another. We do not know God's name, so we refer to him as "God" as a name and showing of superiority over us.

Jesus only ever referred to him as "My God, or My Father". Never spoke of a name. Not in the scriptures we have in the bible anyways. And I assume if there was a scripture with his name, it would have been included. But nonetheless names don't matter. Names do not make you who you are, they to are just a title to give reference to whom you're speaking of.


sorry but I asked which denomination of Christians believe that God is not a supernatural entity .....






God isn't supernatural. What is supernatural? Are you supernatural? Am I supernatural? Was Jesus supernatural? What exactly is supernatural? What Jesus did, we can do to if we have the faith and even greater then Jesus, he has told us.

John 14:12
12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Isn't supernatural, something done out of the ordinary? Something that is more super then natural? Well Jesus has told us, that we can naturally do things as he did and even greater. So again, nothing supernatural.

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