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Topic: Killing Hope
Optomistic69's photo
Sun 02/19/12 02:32 PM
As I said Take it up with William Blum himself and then you can post the result here in a Thread I would welcome very very much.

So I look forward to your demolition of William Blum and then we can cheer you ondrinker

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Sun 02/19/12 02:43 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Sun 02/19/12 02:46 PM




Americans have seem to have forgotten that FDR wanted America to get involved in the war.He held back for awhile because most of Americans didn't want to get involved in another war.Then when a shipment boat going over to England with supplies was sunk FDR seen opportunity and sent our troops into the european war.Remember Pearl Harbor happened after we got involved in the European war.

Plus Russia single handedly defeated Germans in Russia and had their own blitzkreig right into Berlin.Yes if America didn't get involved MAYBE the Nazi's would have taking over the rest of europe but theres alot more to WW2 then just America thinking they won it,German Officers made some very poor choices along with Hitler doing the same.It wasn't just Americas involvement.Plus i believe we may have stayed after the war cause well there hasn't been a WW3,YET.
The Heck it did!laugh
Read up on it again!:laughing:
It was after Pearl Harbor when Germany declared War on the US!

D-Day happened late in the War,definitely NOT prior to Pearl Harbor!
Sorry you're wrong i typed we got involved we were shipping aid to the Brits...nice try,maybe you should read my post better.laugh laugh laugh laugh
you claim he sent Troops into the European War as the result of German U-Boats sinking some Lend-Lease!
there was a secret little war going on between the US Navy and U-Boats,remember in Iceland and all the other little naval incidents,we were in the war just never declared it because of the Neutrality Act until pearl harbor.The u-boats were sinking US ships and the US was sinking plus capturing u-boats.So technically we were fighting in the war.Also FDR sent these "volunteers" troops to aid the Brits.

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Sun 02/19/12 02:58 PM





Americans have seem to have forgotten that FDR wanted America to get involved in the war.He held back for awhile because most of Americans didn't want to get involved in another war.Then when a shipment boat going over to England with supplies was sunk FDR seen opportunity and sent our troops into the european war.Remember Pearl Harbor happened after we got involved in the European war.

Plus Russia single handedly defeated Germans in Russia and had their own blitzkreig right into Berlin.Yes if America didn't get involved MAYBE the Nazi's would have taking over the rest of europe but theres alot more to WW2 then just America thinking they won it,German Officers made some very poor choices along with Hitler doing the same.It wasn't just Americas involvement.Plus i believe we may have stayed after the war cause well there hasn't been a WW3,YET.
The Heck it did!laugh
Read up on it again!:laughing:
It was after Pearl Harbor when Germany declared War on the US!

D-Day happened late in the War,definitely NOT prior to Pearl Harbor!
Sorry you're wrong i typed we got involved we were shipping aid to the Brits...nice try,maybe you should read my post better.laugh laugh laugh laugh
you claim he sent Troops into the European War as the result of German U-Boats sinking some Lend-Lease!
there was a secret little war going on between the US Navy and U-Boats,remember in Iceland and all the other little naval incidents,we were in the war just never declared it because of the Neutrality Act until pearl harbor.The u-boats were sinking US ships and the US was sinking plus capturing u-boats.So technically we were fighting in the war.Also FDR sent these "volunteers" troops to aid the Brits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

That was basically all until the Poo hit the Fan on 7th December 1941.

RKISIT's photo
Sun 02/19/12 03:15 PM






Americans have seem to have forgotten that FDR wanted America to get involved in the war.He held back for awhile because most of Americans didn't want to get involved in another war.Then when a shipment boat going over to England with supplies was sunk FDR seen opportunity and sent our troops into the european war.Remember Pearl Harbor happened after we got involved in the European war.

Plus Russia single handedly defeated Germans in Russia and had their own blitzkreig right into Berlin.Yes if America didn't get involved MAYBE the Nazi's would have taking over the rest of europe but theres alot more to WW2 then just America thinking they won it,German Officers made some very poor choices along with Hitler doing the same.It wasn't just Americas involvement.Plus i believe we may have stayed after the war cause well there hasn't been a WW3,YET.
The Heck it did!laugh
Read up on it again!:laughing:
It was after Pearl Harbor when Germany declared War on the US!

D-Day happened late in the War,definitely NOT prior to Pearl Harbor!
Sorry you're wrong i typed we got involved we were shipping aid to the Brits...nice try,maybe you should read my post better.laugh laugh laugh laugh
you claim he sent Troops into the European War as the result of German U-Boats sinking some Lend-Lease!
there was a secret little war going on between the US Navy and U-Boats,remember in Iceland and all the other little naval incidents,we were in the war just never declared it because of the Neutrality Act until pearl harbor.The u-boats were sinking US ships and the US was sinking plus capturing u-boats.So technically we were fighting in the war.Also FDR sent these "volunteers" troops to aid the Brits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

That was basically all until the Poo hit the Fan on 7th December 1941.
I know abit about WW2 w/o wiki or google,i like that war not because of the war itself but how that war changed the US Government.The cold war propaganda and it basically gave us the government we have today.Some say it was Vietnam,that was more of the American people,WW2 was when the government took control and seen how easy Americans can be manipulated by using strong patriotism and yep gotta say it also,God.

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Mon 02/20/12 08:19 AM
For InvictusV

New York and London newspapers reported (26th June) that South Korea had invaded and seized the town of Haeju.

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Mon 02/20/12 08:28 AM
People should stop worrying about who started what or what government or country is good or bad and just say screw them.

Don't let governments tell you who to kill or who to love or who is good or bad. We have the Internet and we can talk to each other. We don't have to listen to the governments and we don't have to listen to propaganda.

Use your own judgement. People are still people. Stop choosing sides and following orders. Don't be pawns.


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Mon 02/20/12 08:37 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 02/20/12 09:10 AM

For InvictusV

New York and London newspapers reported (26th June) that South Korea had invaded and seized the town of Haeju.

October 23rd--ROK and UN ground forces seize the North Korean coastal city of Haeju.

http://www.changingthetimes.net/samples/coldwar/stop1.htm

About a Month after the NK-Invasion!

Excerpt from the Link.

October 12th--The Red Army begins assembling men and equipment along the Soviet-North Korean border in preparation for possible deployment to Korea. To confuse Western intelligence agents, the buildup is disguised as a routine troop training exercise.

October 13th--At his daily press briefing, General Douglas MacArthur announces that his advance troops from Inchon have linked up with the UN ground forces coming up southeast from the Pusan region.

October 16th--Chinese dictator Mao Zedong lets it be known via a secret letter to Joseph Stalin that the People’s Republic of China will support the Soviet Union in any military action it decides to take against the UN forces in Korea.

October 17th--Three B-29 squadrons equipped with nuclear bombs are deployed to US airbases in West Germany as a signal to the Soviet Union that any incursion of Soviet ground troops into the Korean Peninsula will be regarded as an act of war by the USSR against the United States and answered in kind.

October 19th--In response to the American deployment of B-29s to West Germany, the Soviets dispatch a Tupolev bomber wing to East Germany to carry out nuclear strikes against US and NATO bases in western Europe. UN Secretary General Trygve Lie calls on both the superpowers to refrain from using nuclear weapons lest the fighting in Korea escalates into World War III.

October 20th--Chinese "volunteers" begin assembling in Manchuria to await possible orders to go into Korea.

October 23rd--ROK and UN ground forces seize the North Korean coastal city of Haeju.

October 25th--US Marines attack the town of Ongjin and quickly encounter violent NKPA resistance; both the Americans and their NKPA foes endure massive casualties.

October 26th--Stalin’s top military intelligence advisors give him some disquieting news: if the UN expeditionary forces in the Korean Peninsula maintain or accelerate their current rate of advance on the ground, it is projected that they will reach the banks of the Yalu River within 90 days or less.

October 28th--The last pockets of NKPA resistance in Ongjin are eliminated by heavy American bombing. That same day in Moscow, Stalin secretly orders additional Red Army troops sent to the Soviet-North Korean border as Kim Il Sung threatens to execute US and allied POWs held by the NKPA.

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 02/20/12 08:45 AM

People should stop worrying about who started what or what government or country is good or bad and just say screw them.

Don't let governments tell you who to kill or who to love or who is good or bad. We have the Internet and we can talk to each other. We don't have to listen to the governments and we don't have to listen to propaganda.

Use your own judgement. People are still people. Stop choosing sides and following orders. Don't be pawns.




OK Jeanniebean, I will kill this threadflowerforyou

I am now going over to the All you need is love thread and then returning to the Illuminati threaddrinker flowerforyou drinker waving

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Mon 02/20/12 09:02 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Mon 02/20/12 09:03 AM

For InvictusV

New York and London newspapers reported (26th June) that South Korea had invaded and seized the town of Haeju.



From the BBC

1950: UN condemns North Korean invasion
North Korea has invaded South Korea at several points along the two countries' joint border.

The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) has denounced North Korea's actions as a breach of the peace and has called for an immediate ceasefire.

The United States President Harry S Truman has gone a step further and urged western nations to go out to Korea and help repel the communist invasion.

"By their actions in Korea, communist leaders have demonstrated their contempt for the basic moral principles on which the United Nations is founded," he said.

Surprise attack

The invasion took the international community by surprise, even though the American Economic Co-operation Administration has its biggest mission - about 2,000 staff - in South Korea.

The seven-power commission of the United Nations in Korea (Uncok) confirmed North Korean troops crossed the border - known as the 38th parallel - in 11 places after artillery bombardments were reported in South Korea at 0400 local time.

Uncok has identified northern forces in the Ongjin peninsula and the north-western town of Kaesong and northerly town of Chunchon and landings on the east coast around Skagnung, almost 40 miles from the border.

Their statement also contained details of machine-gun attacks by four 'Yak' aircraft on military and civilian airfields outside the South Korean capital Seoul, destroying aircraft and jeeps and setting fire to petrol tanks.

President Syngman Rhee of South Korea - who denied early rumours of war - told Uncok at least 36 North Korean tanks and armoured cars had been counted on their way to Seoul by the shortest routes.

The North Korean wireless station, in the capital Pyongyang, justified the invasion saying communist forces were counter-attacking against border incursions by the South Koreans in the early hours of the morning and reported a state of war shortly after noon local time.

After an emergency meeting with his cabinet South Korea's foreign minister Ben Limb urged the people of the republic to resist the "dastardly attack".

The UN Security Council met at Lake Success, Detroit after the Korean Ambassador John Myung Changan sent an urgent petition to the State Department in Washington.

Korea has been divided since the Japanese withdrawal at the end of World War II left the USSR occupying the area north of the 38th parallel and the US to the south.



For the first time the UN asked broadcasters - including the BBC and Voice of America - to transmit the UN ceasefire resolution to North Korea.

The republican government fled Seoul and the following day America offered military aid - including air and sea support - to South Korea.

On 28 June North Korean troops entered the capital and took control. The UN invoked military sanctions shortly afterwards.

President Truman and his government interpreted the invasion as Russian-backed communist aggression.

The USSR and North Korean authorities claimed they were responding to attacks from the republican south.

The war cost about two million lives.

Fighting did not stop until 1953 with the signing of the armistice on 27 July.

But a peace deal has never been reached. American troops remain stationed in the de-militarized zone on and around the 38th parallel separating North and South Korea.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/25/newsid_2699000/2699641.stm/


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Wed 02/22/12 05:48 PM
I just seen a headline which read 'How GPs make £162 million out of ghost patients: Anger over bill for 2.5 million non-existent patients'


xD They never cease to amaze me. Serves em right for planning too far ahead. Those bunch of idiots. Non-existent? Haha. Good. I'm glad. Stupid government, and stupid dr's. Seriously. Some of these business are linked with each other. Dr's communicate with government, the government use religion as a weapon, and medications, and news reports about statistics. I guess some people will never want to know that. Not like i could change their minds about it. But it is a shame. You go to your dr with a family problem, but instead of telling you your options, "these pills will help". Again, no thanks. I've had it with the "There's a pill for every problem" way of thinking. They only give you five minutes to talk. Says a lot about em really.

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