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Topic: Iran is Not a Punchbag
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Mon 04/09/12 02:10 PM







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Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism.

http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm

Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism:

Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere.

According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer:

State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people.


Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY.


All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that
they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons
capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from
nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and
scientists.

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So simple yet they refuse to do so.


Why should they?


So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious
fanatic nuts by force...

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Are you talking about the Jews, the Christians or the Muslims?

Or any religious fanatic?

And what does that have to do with a sovereign nation living side by side with other countries who are armed to the teeth?




and if they weren't armed to the teeth, they would have been destroyed a long time ago... but that's ok with you, i'm sure you would like a jew-less world...


first of all, who would have been destroyed a long time ago?

and second, if you are insinuating that I have something against Jews then you breaking forum rules and making this topic personal. Kindly refrain from those remarks.

I am free to appose Zionism and I would hope that you would learn the difference between Zionism and religion.

I think all Abrahamic religions are false ideals but that does not mean I hate Jews or Christians or Muslims. Why would I? I don't care what religion they practice. I just think they are mislead.



feel free to report it, i don't mind... your own words show your hatred towards whatever you want to call it, i call it jews. your free to oppose whatever you want, just as i am free to call you on your self centered hatred. you've been doing it for years, and probably won't stop, so keep on with the jew bashing, your just showing your ignorance when you do.



I have always apposed Zionism. I also appose COMMUNISM AND DICTATORSHIPS.


It is only your twisted or brainwashed ideas that twist it into thinking that opposition to Zionism means hatred against Jews. That actually does not make any logical sense since I know nothing about the Jewish religion at all. You need an education.




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Mon 04/09/12 02:13 PM


tears I feel so ignored!tears


You said:
"Iran is a belligerent Islamic nation."

I saw it. I can't disagree but I don't think being belligerent against the dragon is a bad thing. As far as they being "Islamic" well, that is just a religion. Being Islamic is not the same as being a terrorist.

Or is that what you are implying?
Well, they have threatened to use nukes. It is not like they there are nice and dont make any dangerous claims about what they want to do with them.

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Mon 04/09/12 02:17 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 02:18 PM



tears I feel so ignored!tears


You said:
"Iran is a belligerent Islamic nation."

I saw it. I can't disagree but I don't think being belligerent against the dragon is a bad thing. As far as they being "Islamic" well, that is just a religion. Being Islamic is not the same as being a terrorist.

Or is that what you are implying?
Well, they have threatened to use nukes. It is not like they there are nice and dont make any dangerous claims about what they want to do with them.


I have not actually heard any of those threats. But I'm sure they are talking about defending themselves against invasion and attack. They are the underdog and are vulnerable to invasion. They don't have the military force or technology that their neighbors have. They will fight back with whatever they can muster, I'm sure.

Everyone is so afraid of everyone else. Nitwits on both sides are going to get all of us killed. Why the hell can't human beings learn to live in peace?


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Mon 04/09/12 02:19 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 04/09/12 02:20 PM
But I'm sure they are talking about defending themselves against invasion and attack.
Why so sure?

They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map, they have had entire national addresses where the theme running through it was Death to America.

Sorry, they just cant help but be radical and make these kinds of statements, well they shouldn't have nukes then.

Why the hell can't human beings learn to live in peace?
Well, in this case, its religion.

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Mon 04/09/12 02:22 PM


They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map.




Get it right

He said Wipe Zionisn off the map

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Mon 04/09/12 02:25 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 04/09/12 02:26 PM



They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map.




Get it right

He said Wipe Zionisn off the map
I dont speak the language so I have to go by what was translated for me, and it did not say that.

Also . . . if zionism isnt on the map, ie a geographic region . . . how does one wipe it off the map?

Sorry, not buying it. They have enemies, they want them gone, they are building weapons.

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Mon 04/09/12 02:28 PM



They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map.




Get it right

He said Wipe Zionisn off the map



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Like I said, I have never heard those threats.

Its like when Christians talk about fighting evil or wiping evil off the map.

They view Zionism, Capitalism as evil. Capitalism is not just business, it is a type of business that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Eventually large corporations are paying poor workers less than a living wage. They are more like slaves than assets or partners. Its all about profit. They don't care if the people live well or are paid a fair wage.



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Mon 04/09/12 02:31 PM




They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map.




Get it right

He said Wipe Zionisn off the map



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Like I said, I have never heard those threats.

Its like when Christians talk about fighting evil or wiping evil off the map.

They view Zionism, Capitalism as evil. Capitalism is not just business, it is a type of business that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Eventually large corporations are paying poor workers less than a living wage. They are more like slaves than assets or partners. Its all about profit. They don't care if the people live well or are paid a fair wage.





I think we should get to the Gym and studio:wink:

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Mon 04/09/12 02:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 02:41 PM




They have talked about wiping Isreal off the map.




Get it right

He said Wipe Zionisn off the map
I dont speak the language so I have to go by what was translated for me, and it did not say that.

Also . . . if zionism isnt on the map, ie a geographic region . . . how does one wipe it off the map?

Sorry, not buying it. They have enemies, they want them gone, they are building weapons.



They don't know who or what the real enemy is. They are angry. They have been sanctioned for years. They don't really know what is going on.
Their neighbors are armed to the teeth and they have proven that they can't really be trusted.

Unless countries have a military, and respectable weapons, they will get no respect or recognition from other countries. They will be exploited and invaded.

I'm not saying that I think Iran should have nuclear weapons. I don't really know how crazy they are. I'm just telling it like it is. If they don't get a respectable military, and weapons, they will be vulnerable and they will fall and will eventually have to cooperate with global capitalism. That is usually done with a cue where all the important leaders are over thrown or assassinated, with some rebel forces backed by the CIA or special ops.

Either way, if Iran does not give in to the globalist movement, there will be a lot of blood spilled, and there will be a lot spilled when they are taken over too.

Trying to destroy their nuclear weapons using a cyber virus was a cyber attack to slow their technological progress. They also sent in assassins to kill their top scientists. The attack has already started. It will continue. Iran knows that the attack is in already progress. And you wonder why they want weapons? Maybe they don't want to be swallowed by the snake.






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Mon 04/09/12 02:49 PM
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Never heard the statements from Ahmadinejad?
Never heard the pronouncements from the Iranian clerics?

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It would appear that you have been hiding under some pretty
gargantuan rock in a very deep hole!!

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As it has been all over the news.

Fortunately, here is a handy compilation of some of the select
portions targeting the U.S. and Israel and Europe (among others)
in video! No doubt you are going to claim these videos (despite
being witnessed by millions and millions of people) are the
fabrication of aliens from area 51. That can't be helped.

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But for the rest of the world with open ears and open eyes and
open minds. Listen carefully to the subtle innuendo and you may
here an almost imperceptible subliminal message....

"Death to the U.S. and Death to Israel"

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Probably it is some obscure code language for we love peace and
would never harm anyone and don't believe in violence!

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Here you go: (listen very carefully because the audio is weak) laugh

http://youtu.be/gMLJJEDDDGc

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Mon 04/09/12 06:14 PM

Building weapons and telling other nations they can't....
who are the terrorists?!?!

shocked you are right honey. We should have listened to those Germans before WW2 and let them perfect the V-2 Rocket. What a little peace getter that one was. ohwell

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Mon 04/09/12 06:30 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 06:30 PM
I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.



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Tue 04/10/12 06:36 AM

I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.





huh... you don't watch any news, but yet you claim to know whats going on over there... now i know not to listen to you anymore, because of your own admission you can't know whats going on, but just guessing as to what you think...thank you

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Tue 04/10/12 07:56 AM


I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.





huh... you don't watch any news, but yet you claim to know whats going on over there... now i know not to listen to you anymore, because of your own admission you can't know whats going on, but just guessing as to what you think...thank you

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I usually don't watch the news that conrad watches. I get news from real and varied sources. The mainstream media's news is filtered, altered, slanted and full of propaganda. They spew ONLY what they want the dumbed down public to see and hear. (I thought you, of all people, knew that.)




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Tue 04/10/12 10:36 AM



I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.





huh... you don't watch any news, but yet you claim to know whats going on over there... now i know not to listen to you anymore, because of your own admission you can't know whats going on, but just guessing as to what you think...thank you

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I usually don't watch the news that conrad watches. I get news from real and varied sources. The mainstream media's news is filtered, altered, slanted and full of propaganda. They spew ONLY what they want the dumbed down public to see and hear. (I thought you, of all people, knew that.)






what you term as "real" is just as slanted as any other news thats out there... so what your saying is that your news is right, and and conrads is wrong?... the libs is just as slanted as the cons, and vice versa, but yours is right?

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Tue 04/10/12 11:53 AM




I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.





huh... you don't watch any news, but yet you claim to know whats going on over there... now i know not to listen to you anymore, because of your own admission you can't know whats going on, but just guessing as to what you think...thank you

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I usually don't watch the news that conrad watches. I get news from real and varied sources. The mainstream media's news is filtered, altered, slanted and full of propaganda. They spew ONLY what they want the dumbed down public to see and hear. (I thought you, of all people, knew that.)






what you term as "real" is just as slanted as any other news thats out there... so what your saying is that your news is right, and and conrads is wrong?... the libs is just as slanted as the cons, and vice versa, but yours is right?


All news is somewhat slanted. But there are other sources of information besides what you might label "news."

I don't divide the world of people by labeling them "libs" or "cons." That is a very narrow viewpoint. Everything is not black and white. You have to look at the whole picture. The mainstream media that Conrad worships is so predictable, when I watch it I always look for agenda and agenda is always there.

It broadcasts things like people yelling "death to America or Israel" for the soul purpose of rallying the dumbed down public to start seeing Iran as the new public enemy #1.

During each war, the media was always aimed at telling the public who they should hate and go to war with. When are people going to stop listening to their media masters and lying politicians and obeying them and hating whoever they tell them to hate?

We are not a bunch of zombies, yet the public, like robots, hate who they are told to hate, fear who they are told to fear, kill who they are told to kill.


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Tue 04/10/12 12:03 PM





I realize that what you call the "news" is all pretty slanted stuff. I don't like to pollute my brain with that trash. They only and always only show one very slanted side of what is really going on.
I also don't pollute my brain with the links you post.





huh... you don't watch any news, but yet you claim to know whats going on over there... now i know not to listen to you anymore, because of your own admission you can't know whats going on, but just guessing as to what you think...thank you

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I usually don't watch the news that conrad watches. I get news from real and varied sources. The mainstream media's news is filtered, altered, slanted and full of propaganda. They spew ONLY what they want the dumbed down public to see and hear. (I thought you, of all people, knew that.)






what you term as "real" is just as slanted as any other news thats out there... so what your saying is that your news is right, and and conrads is wrong?... the libs is just as slanted as the cons, and vice versa, but yours is right?


All news is somewhat slanted. But there are other sources of information besides what you might label "news."

I don't divide the world of people by labeling them "libs" or "cons." That is a very narrow viewpoint. Everything is not black and white. You have to look at the whole picture. The mainstream media that Conrad worships is so predictable, when I watch it I always look for agenda and agenda is always there.

It broadcasts things like people yelling "death to America or Israel" for the soul purpose of rallying the dumbed down public to start seeing Iran as the new public enemy #1.

During each war, the media was always aimed at telling the public who they should hate and go to war with. When are people going to stop listening to their media masters and lying politicians and obeying them and hating whoever they tell them to hate?

We are not a bunch of zombies, yet the public, like robots, hate who they are told to hate, fear who they are told to fear, kill who they are told to kill.




i think it all boils down to what side of the fence we are on. if your against war, then naturally, your going to agree with things that are pro peace. same with "zionists", and other groups you don't seem to like. I am for mid-east peace, but that will never happen. thats why i think we should just get all the wars over with, and get on with life.

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Tue 04/10/12 03:39 PM
I think people, all people, should forget the wars and just get on with life.

But there are people in this world who want to have all the power and all the money and they don't care about little people like us who would like just to get on with life. So they make sure that they convince us to be afraid of something and convince us that we should destroy the enemy.

They want people to die. There are too many people in their opinion. War is a method of genocide. Let the young men and women die before they can reproduce.

Well the young men and women do just that. They go to war.

It will never change. This world will always be at war until everything is under the control of the people who own it. Then we the people will be the servants and slaves of the rich and powerful.


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