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Topic: Iran is Not a Punchbag
Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 04/09/12 12:21 PM
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s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Mon 04/09/12 12:35 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. The primary example to this day is Iran and Lebanese Hezbollah. Hezbollah, in the nomenclature of the discussion, would be the surrogate of Iran. U.S. Department's State Sponsors of Terrorism List Profile of Iran Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism, Says 2006 Country Report State Sponsored Terrorism Thrives, says Michale Scheuer All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. This is why they are likely to be disarmed by force. But they could prevent it today if they start verifiably dismantling their nuclear enrichment facilities etc.

AndyBgood Joined Thu 12/25/08 Posts: 12437	Mon 04/09/12 01:03 PM
Iran is a belligerent Islamic nation. It isn't the people of Iran who are the problem. Iran has made it abundantly clear they will do something to Israel if given the chance. Frankly the real way of handling the situation is to arm the crap out of enough Iranians who want to free their nation of the oppressive grip of Islam and let them take their own home back. I would bet a lot of money that if given the chance Iran would free itself of the Theocracy but the Military leaders and Political Leadership is the Problem. And there is only one real way to deal with any military. Hit them with superior fire power. Break them and force them to surrender and kill any who don't. So what are some of the more enlightened solutions? Bear in mind if Iran does strike at Israel and God Forbid they bounce a nuke off of Tel Avive what then? You know we are treaty bound to respond in like. The fact is someone is going to have to kill someone else before this situation resolves itself but the question is who needs to die or surrender? You know VERY FEW people historically have ever given up having political power for the right reasons.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:17 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 01:17 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? Will Israel do the same? Will America? Of course not. They want to be in power and in control of all wars and commerce. Do you realize that the world is run by less than 12 people?

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 04/09/12 01:19 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? Will Israel do the same? Will America? Of course not. They want to be in power and in control of all wars and commerce. Do you realize that the world is run by less than 12 people? so, whats your point?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:23 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 01:24 PM
The point is all this propaganda and taking sides is pointless when you are all being manipulated by those with all the money. If you make large enough waves, against the powers that be and who own the world, you will probably just simply disappear. You are nothing to them.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 04/09/12 01:29 PM Edited by Optomistic69 on Mon 04/09/12 01:31 PM
The point is all this propaganda and taking sides is pointless when you are all being manipulated by those with all the money. If you make large enough waves, against the powers that be and who own the world, you will probably just simply disappear. You are nothing to them. In a Nutshell Jeanniebean ======================================================= "Money is Power", or shall we say, "The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power". (Alex James) Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838: "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws". Letter written from London by the Rothschilds to their New York agents introducing their banking method into America: "The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:32 PM
The point is all this propaganda and taking sides is pointless when you are all being manipulated by those with all the money. If you make large enough waves, against the powers that be and who own the world, you will probably just simply disappear. You are nothing to them. In a Nutshell Jeanniebean ======================================================= "Money is Power", or shall we say, "The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power". (Alex James) Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838: "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws". Letter written from London by the Rothschilds to their New York agents introducing their banking method into America: "The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." I may have to start smoking. I think a cigarette would be nice after having been screwed. And we, the American people, (and the whole world) have been, are are being screwed. I would use the F word if it was allowed.

AndyBgood Joined Thu 12/25/08 Posts: 12437	Mon 04/09/12 01:34 PM
I feel so ignored!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:37 PM
I feel so ignored! You said: "Iran is a belligerent Islamic nation." I saw it. I can't disagree but I don't think being belligerent against the dragon is a bad thing. As far as they being "Islamic" well, that is just a religion. Being Islamic is not the same as being a terrorist. Or is that what you are implying?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:39 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 01:40 PM
I think the world would be better off without the three false Abrahamic religions anyway. They are all based on a King David who in my opinion is pure fiction. Being Christian or Jewish is no better than being Islamic. They are all false beliefs. Mythical religions.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Mon 04/09/12 01:41 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious fanatic nuts by force...

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:42 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 01:43 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious fanatic nuts by force... Are you talking about the Jews, the Christians or the Muslims? Or any religious fanatic? And what does that have to do with a sovereign nation living side by side with other countries who are armed to the teeth?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Mon 04/09/12 01:44 PM
The point is all this propaganda and taking sides is pointless when you are all being manipulated by those with all the money. If you make large enough waves, against the powers that be and who own the world, you will probably just simply disappear. You are nothing to them. In a Nutshell Jeanniebean ======================================================= "Money is Power", or shall we say, "The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power". (Alex James) Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838: "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws". Letter written from London by the Rothschilds to their New York agents introducing their banking method into America: "The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." I may have to start smoking. I think a cigarette would be nice after having been screwed. And we, the American people, (and the whole world) have been, are are being screwed. I would use the F word if it was allowed.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:45 PM
The thing is, Jews and Christians would have to believe that Muslims are fanatics. (Have you watched the 700 club lately? )

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 01:45 PM
Yep... you got it.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 04/09/12 01:48 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious fanatic nuts by force... Are you talking about the Jews, the Christians or the Muslims? Or any religious fanatic? And what does that have to do with a sovereign nation living side by side with other countries who are armed to the teeth? and if they weren't armed to the teeth, they would have been destroyed a long time ago... but that's ok with you, i'm sure you would like a jew-less world...

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 02:00 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/09/12 02:01 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious fanatic nuts by force... Are you talking about the Jews, the Christians or the Muslims? Or any religious fanatic? And what does that have to do with a sovereign nation living side by side with other countries who are armed to the teeth? and if they weren't armed to the teeth, they would have been destroyed a long time ago... but that's ok with you, i'm sure you would like a jew-less world... first of all, who would have been destroyed a long time ago? and second, if you are insinuating that I have something against Jews then you are breaking forum rules and making this topic personal. Kindly refrain from those remarks. I am free to appose Zionism and I would hope that you would learn the difference between Zionism and religion. I think all Abrahamic religions are false ideals but that does not mean I hate Jews or Christians or Muslims. Why would I? I don't care what religion they practice. I just think they are mislead.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 04/09/12 02:02 PM
For me, Zionism is like Communism. It is a nasty and oppressive political movement.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 04/09/12 02:05 PM
Iran is the world's worst known state sponsor of terrorism. http://terrorism.about.com/od/iran/p/Iran2.htm Iran, State Sponsor of Terrorism: Iran has consistently been described by the United States as the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism. It actively supports terrorist groups, most prominently the Lebanese group Hezbollah. The Iranian relationship with Hezbollah demonstrates one accepted explanation of why states sponsor terrorism: to indirectly influence politics elsewhere. According to Michael Scheuer, former CIA officer: State-sponsored terrorism came in the middle-1970s, and ... its heyday was in the 1980s and early-'90s. And typically, the definition of a state sponsor of terrorism is a country that uses surrogates as its weapon to attack other people. Sounds familiar. Any political group like Israel or the U.S. or the CIA or any rich banker with money can do the exact same thing with mercenaries. Only they wear hoods. Someone is paying them, and it someone with MONEY. All Iran has to do is to dismantle their centrifuges and prove that they are not trying to threaten the region with nuclear weapons capability and of course by doing in publicly with oversight from nuclear inspectors with free access to all their facilities and scientists. So simple yet they refuse to do so. Why should they? So the rest of the world will not have to disarm the religious fanatic nuts by force... Are you talking about the Jews, the Christians or the Muslims? Or any religious fanatic? And what does that have to do with a sovereign nation living side by side with other countries who are armed to the teeth? and if they weren't armed to the teeth, they would have been destroyed a long time ago... but that's ok with you, i'm sure you would like a jew-less world... first of all, who would have been destroyed a long time ago? and second, if you are insinuating that I have something against Jews then you breaking forum rules and making this topic personal. Kindly refrain from those remarks. I am free to appose Zionism and I would hope that you would learn the difference between Zionism and religion. I think all Abrahamic religions are false ideals but that does not mean I hate Jews or Christians or Muslims. Why would I? I don't care what religion they practice. I just think they are mislead. feel free to report it, i don't mind... your own words show your hatred towards whatever you want to call it, i call it jews. your free to oppose whatever you want, just as i am free to call you on your self centered hatred. you've been doing it for years, and probably won't stop, so keep on with the jew bashing, your just showing your ignorance when you do.

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