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Devil's Advocate is a figure of speech.
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When I was an undergrad, a professor once told me that G-d's love blows across the Earth like a Mighty Wind. I want ALL people to feel the breeze.
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Wed 06/06/12 04:09 AM
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"That got me a bigger picture when she told me how things worked. The story goes back to Sodom and Gomorrah that those men wanted to know the angels for themselves.. if you know what that means.. to try to convert those into homosexuals." "you all get the point that it is the agenda or goals of GLBT to destroy people at their weakness point of their lives such as childhood, when people are confused, and even Christians!" I dont agree that its some grand goal of lgbt community to destroy anyone I think its not an intention, but that ignorance and the ever growing worldliness of society and its acceptance of all 'adult' behavior has alot of people very confused and feeling completely in the right for the sake of their personal 'happiness' I do believe it is in line with what the bible warns christians of , right along with children not respecting their parents (as society teaches them their parents must 'earn' it) what the world WANTS and the happiness of the flesh will supercede everything else eventually, most will be their own Gods, and humans will lead to their own destruction by insisting upon eating the 'fruit' and challenging why God would ever instruct them otherwise "not respecting their parents", etc. 2 Timothy 3: Difficult Times Will Come 1, This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2, For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5, Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. ...................> These things were predicted and fulfilled in THESE "last days" These are not just preditions of little children and teens... I believe it describes the newer generation refusing to maintain the wisdom and godly standards handed down by their parents. |
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There's a strng demon behind homosexuality dat d devil has pourd frm hell to d people of d world,it's vry common in church's 2day cos christian's nd even so cal men of God allows it,wel it shws d signs of d end time acordng 2 1tim4:1-3.infact d abomination in d world 2day wil even hasten d coming of christ,but r christians ready 4dat gr8 rapture no wonder why d bible says in d book of 1pet4:17-18.hmm is so sad,few christians r ready.pls b prepared.
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A church is a building for sinners and those who want help. Nobody should be kicked out nobody! That being said their is no place for homosexuality to be promoted as it is un-biblical. But openly gay people should be welcomed with open arms into any church, as long as we aren't promoting the choice and life style.
The saying "hate the sin, love the sinner" applies to everyone and everything. We shouldn't judge and we shouldn't treat them in any way Jesus wouldn't! Of course I don't condone giving membership to someone who is not working on their sins. This means if your gay and your proud and you aren't trying to remain abstinent from homosexual intercourse then you shouldn't be granted membership. In the same way nobody promoting sin of any kind should be granted membership. Simply put members need to be active Christians and to hold membership you need to be held to a high standard. Also the whole gay is a choice, I tend to believe it is a bit of both. For most it is a choice but for many it is a mental illness. I haven't met a single man born gay! I know several homosexuals and none of them were born that way. Though they all say they have no choice. One in particular was straight I know he was a he watched porn alot I know exactly what he watched and he certainly was not gay. He started dating a bisexual and she got him to go to orgies. A few years later he was gay, not bisexual he was gay! He said he had always been that way he was born that way. Umm I know what he watched I know what he did watching that. If you watch lesbian porn 24/7 and you don't even like porn with a guy banging a girl because you only want to see boobs. Your not gay! I know another guy who's mom dressed him up in dresses and sent him to school with make up and earnings. She didn't want a boy, she raised him as a girl, surprise he turned out gay. He swore he was always gay. He became a Christian at a later date and married a Christian lesbian and she miscarried. Apparently they were sexually active. Which makes me wonder how that can occur if he was gay. I know several others. But then I also think of the pastor in the US, it came out that he was sleeping with male prostitutes. He then openly admitted to being gay and pretending his whole life. In an interview he claimed he was always gay and that he was never attracted to his wife! But he had three kids and his wife was unaware? These things make me think homosexuality is a mental disorder. Actually gender confusion disorder is considered a mental illness, I would say that is what it should be called. Fact is a gay guy once told me "I'm gay I'm not attracted to women" I said "Well when you say nothing you don't even get a boner" he replied "No I've never once been physically attracted to a woman I couldn't have sex with one if I tried". He then started dating a girl later to hide it. When they broke up she was furious and told everyone he was a fake that he had slept with her. He later admitted to me that he did. So the guy who wasn't at all physically attracted to women was able to have sex with one? A pastor who never once was attracted to his wife had several children and had a sexual relationship for years and she never knew! So I have to wonder really just how legitimate the disease is. I know it must be real since so many people are afflicted by it. But it just doesn't make sense! I know the actress from Sex in the City came out and said it was a choice, the gay community destroyed her and days later she changed her story. Fact is I haven't met one gay guy yet who was actually 100% gay. I know of several cases where gays got married and went on to have kids, others which ended up going back to the gay life style. So I have to wonder if your gay and you cant get aroused by a woman. How do you have kids and how doesn't she realize it for over a decade? You'd think if you were gay your wife who your having sex with would realize lol! |
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A church is a building for sinners and those who want help. Nobody should be kicked out nobody! That being said their is no place for homosexuality to be promoted as it is un-biblical. But openly gay people should be welcomed with open arms into any church, as long as we aren't promoting the choice and life style. The saying "hate the sin, love the sinner" applies to everyone and everything. We shouldn't judge and we shouldn't treat them in any way Jesus wouldn't! Of course I don't condone giving membership to someone who is not working on their sins. This means if your gay and your proud and you aren't trying to remain abstinent from homosexual intercourse then you shouldn't be granted membership. In the same way nobody promoting sin of any kind should be granted membership. Simply put members need to be active Christians and to hold membership you need to be held to a high standard. Also the whole gay is a choice, I tend to believe it is a bit of both. For most it is a choice but for many it is a mental illness. I haven't met a single man born gay! I know several homosexuals and none of them were born that way. Though they all say they have no choice. One in particular was straight I know he was a he watched porn alot I know exactly what he watched and he certainly was not gay. He started dating a bisexual and she got him to go to orgies. A few years later he was gay, not bisexual he was gay! He said he had always been that way he was born that way. Umm I know what he watched I know what he did watching that. If you watch lesbian porn 24/7 and you don't even like porn with a guy banging a girl because you only want to see boobs. Your not gay! I know another guy who's mom dressed him up in dresses and sent him to school with make up and earnings. She didn't want a boy, she raised him as a girl, surprise he turned out gay. He swore he was always gay. He became a Christian at a later date and married a Christian lesbian and she miscarried. Apparently they were sexually active. Which makes me wonder how that can occur if he was gay. I know several others. But then I also think of the pastor in the US, it came out that he was sleeping with male prostitutes. He then openly admitted to being gay and pretending his whole life. In an interview he claimed he was always gay and that he was never attracted to his wife! But he had three kids and his wife was unaware? These things make me think homosexuality is a mental disorder. Actually gender confusion disorder is considered a mental illness, I would say that is what it should be called. Fact is a gay guy once told me "I'm gay I'm not attracted to women" I said "Well when you say nothing you don't even get a boner" he replied "No I've never once been physically attracted to a woman I couldn't have sex with one if I tried". He then started dating a girl later to hide it. When they broke up she was furious and told everyone he was a fake that he had slept with her. He later admitted to me that he did. So the guy who wasn't at all physically attracted to women was able to have sex with one? A pastor who never once was attracted to his wife had several children and had a sexual relationship for years and she never knew! So I have to wonder really just how legitimate the disease is. I know it must be real since so many people are afflicted by it. But it just doesn't make sense! I know the actress from Sex in the City came out and said it was a choice, the gay community destroyed her and days later she changed her story. Fact is I haven't met one gay guy yet who was actually 100% gay. I know of several cases where gays got married and went on to have kids, others which ended up going back to the gay life style. So I have to wonder if your gay and you cant get aroused by a woman. How do you have kids and how doesn't she realize it for over a decade? You'd think if you were gay your wife who your having sex with would realize lol! Welcome to Mingle2 Christian Singles Forum, Joelcool7!!! Thank you for your posts. |
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A church is a building for sinners and those who want help. Nobody should be kicked out nobody! That being said their is no place for homosexuality to be promoted as it is un-biblical. But openly gay people should be welcomed with open arms into any church, as long as we aren't promoting the choice and life style. The saying "hate the sin, love the sinner" applies to everyone and everything. We shouldn't judge and we shouldn't treat them in any way Jesus wouldn't! Of course I don't condone giving membership to someone who is not working on their sins. This means if your gay and your proud and you aren't trying to remain abstinent from homosexual intercourse then you shouldn't be granted membership. In the same way nobody promoting sin of any kind should be granted membership. Simply put members need to be active Christians and to hold membership you need to be held to a high standard. Also the whole gay is a choice, I tend to believe it is a bit of both. For most it is a choice but for many it is a mental illness. I haven't met a single man born gay! I know several homosexuals and none of them were born that way. Though they all say they have no choice. One in particular was straight I know he was a he watched porn alot I know exactly what he watched and he certainly was not gay. He started dating a bisexual and she got him to go to orgies. A few years later he was gay, not bisexual he was gay! He said he had always been that way he was born that way. Umm I know what he watched I know what he did watching that. If you watch lesbian porn 24/7 and you don't even like porn with a guy banging a girl because you only want to see boobs. Your not gay! I know another guy who's mom dressed him up in dresses and sent him to school with make up and earnings. She didn't want a boy, she raised him as a girl, surprise he turned out gay. He swore he was always gay. He became a Christian at a later date and married a Christian lesbian and she miscarried. Apparently they were sexually active. Which makes me wonder how that can occur if he was gay. I know several others. But then I also think of the pastor in the US, it came out that he was sleeping with male prostitutes. He then openly admitted to being gay and pretending his whole life. In an interview he claimed he was always gay and that he was never attracted to his wife! But he had three kids and his wife was unaware? These things make me think homosexuality is a mental disorder. Actually gender confusion disorder is considered a mental illness, I would say that is what it should be called. Fact is a gay guy once told me "I'm gay I'm not attracted to women" I said "Well when you say nothing you don't even get a boner" he replied "No I've never once been physically attracted to a woman I couldn't have sex with one if I tried". He then started dating a girl later to hide it. When they broke up she was furious and told everyone he was a fake that he had slept with her. He later admitted to me that he did. So the guy who wasn't at all physically attracted to women was able to have sex with one? A pastor who never once was attracted to his wife had several children and had a sexual relationship for years and she never knew! So I have to wonder really just how legitimate the disease is. I know it must be real since so many people are afflicted by it. But it just doesn't make sense! I know the actress from Sex in the City came out and said it was a choice, the gay community destroyed her and days later she changed her story. Fact is I haven't met one gay guy yet who was actually 100% gay. I know of several cases where gays got married and went on to have kids, others which ended up going back to the gay life style. So I have to wonder if your gay and you cant get aroused by a woman. How do you have kids and how doesn't she realize it for over a decade? You'd think if you were gay your wife who your having sex with would realize lol! Homosexuality is PURELY a choice. Yes they are naturally attracted to the same gender because of basically a malfunction so to speak. I wish to first say I have nothing against homosexuality personally, just this is the only way I know how to explain it lol. God makes no "homosexual", that is again purely a choice. That is why he has told us man shall not lay with man as he would a woman, ect ect. But as for a homosexual in church, I see no reason why they couldn't go if they wished. Would be an oxymoron in a sense, as God has told us not to be homosexual, and we worship God through our actions in a sense and yeah you get what I'm getting at. But again couldn't say they "couldn't" go to church. All sins are equal, all but denying the lord thy God. The rest are forgivable. And to the best of my knowledge, God doesn't give us a grading scale on sins bad to worst, ect. But the only problem with homosexuality, is in receiving forgiveness God has spoke a lot about repentance. This is because asking for forgiveness then going right out and doing the same thing, then asking for forgiveness, then repeating, ect, would get kind of to the point the forgiveness wasn't really wanted to the full extent. They are/were just trying to cover their butts and do as they wish by just asking for the forgiveness in vein. |
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