not much taino. hope everything has been good with you.

i agree with taino The holocaust has caused so much pain, These people died without a reason

if you kill all of the polar bears penguines will rule the world.

lol

I am an independent. (period)
Always have, always will be.
2 years ago at least half the people in this country thought Bush was the best candidate. 51%, I believe. I saw him as a liar then, and I saw him as the worst possible choice to be president. I campaigned hard against him, I felt so sure of my convictions. It was so easy for me to see his lies, and lack of integrity, that I could not see how anyone else could be so blind that they could not.
Well, now, finally everyone else sees. I could say you got what you deserve, but instead I'll say now what I did then.
First- Study the issues and the man. Don't just vote, because you think, or someone told you, or because it seems to be the popular candidate.

Second- Vote, I would say this first, but if you don't know the issues, or how said candidate stands on them, then please don't vote. Yes I said don't, because an ignorant vote hurts this country far more than an ignorant voter that stays home on election day.

2 years ago, we either had a bunch of ignorant voters, or we have a lot of remorseful people today. This President won, 51% of the vote, and I don't hear anyone saying, "Oops, I screwed up."
All I hear is a bunch of people confidant in their convictions. Saying that so and so is the right candidate, and how they vote for a person who has the same beliefs as them.
Please if you don't study the issues, stay at home, please.

Let informed people that do, decide who will be our next president, because I don't think this country, or the world can take another screw-up like the last one.

thank you fanta, i agree.

You think this doesn't happen, but it does.
Right now, there are people in this country that will vote for Obama, just because he's black.
There are people who will vote for Hillary, just because shes a woman.
They have no idea what they stand for, they will just cast their vote for those reasons and those alone.

All I'm asking is just don't be one of those people. There is more than one issue, and sex, and race have nothing to do with the future of this country. The rest of the world relies on our countries leadership, and it starts with intelligent, well-informed voters. We the People!!!

i know it does. i had the same issues and talked to people about it back before his first term. he looked like a liar from the start to me too.

Rock-on King!!!

thank you davinci for keeping up and sharing with us on Ron Paul. He is one in a million. Too bad he is not taken seriously enough. That must be our job.

here we are choosing the lesser of two evils...
Thomas Jefferson once wrote:

"In order for the tree of liberty to flourish it must be watered by the blood of patriots." In this context he spoke not so much of war but of the heart and souls of people who would uphold what it means to be Americans.it is now evident that we as a people have neglected the true importance of freedom and how to abide in it. We have neglected our duties to make an impressionable difference in this country and let it sway to what some may have accurately termed as a pseudo-communistic approach to the legal standards of this republic as we know it. After all does it not state "..And to the republic for which it stands.."??

gardenforge...you rock shugar!!!!! All this media hype over Iraq and the last seven years. BLAH BLAH BLAH. FOOLS. We have been in the middle of this CRAP for DECADES. Funny how soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many americans either forgot this or just refuse to admit it.

i don't think it's as much of forgeting or refusing to admitting it as it is that ythey are discussing the now. you can't do anything to fix the past but you can take steps to make sure that you don't repeat it.

So Davinci,
If Ron Paul is elected we can all smoke pot and quit worrying about all the issues regarding the rest of the world? I am getting the picture that he lives in a polyanna world where the gov't doles out rose colored glasses to everyone so they can hide their cannabis reddened eyes.

I especially liked the part in the debate where he recommended we leave the middle east troubles to the middle east. Particularly since we created all the trouble in the first place. Reminds me of my teenage daughter, a fine girl but at this point in her life she has no perspective about life in the real world. All 17 year olds know everything after all, its not just mine. Ron may have bypassed the opportunity to get a grip on reality.

Sorry, but that's how I feel. I really think that if you want to be president you better take a look around the world and think about how our country can make the best of a rather complicated and dangerous situation.

Furthermore he better have good advisers. If his advisers all have the same mindset as Ron, we might as well close the army and air force and send everyone home, because nobody in charge would have a clue how to use them anyway. Who needs a CIA and NSA when you can smoke pot and stay home.

i may have the wrong idea but if we would have left middle east troubles to the middle east we wouldn't be there in the first place. if we left middle east issues to the middle east maybe their government would get off their asses, get ahold of security forces and do what's right for their country instead of letting our soldiers die. they don't give a **** about their own freedom and independence because most of them are'nt fighting for it, our military is.

philosopher...that is what you think when you hear him talk?.
or read his voting record?...really?....


feel free to vote for any of the other AIPAC shills....

Kingbreeze if you leave them to their own devices the region will be remain the control of local theocratic zealots who will further advance their own doctrines of intolerance for the western world, in the meantime spending all their cash to do what they can to bring down our way of life. I consider that problematic.

Davinci, Yes, that's pretty much what I think. I expect Ron Paul could do the United States a lot of good if he were to spend his time in a Paris sidewalk cafe talking up the ways the United States are going to improve things by taking the approaches he suggests. But it is a grand Hayfork scheme.

In Hayfork people can have grand ideas, talk about them all the time, how they are going to do this and that. People hear these ideas and plans and say, wow, that's a good idea. But as they are in Hayfork, nobody actually expects anyone to follow through with their big plans. Another day, another plan.

Ron Paul on Abortion
Republican Representative (TX-14)




Embryonic stem cell programs not constitionally authorized
Q: Would you expand federal funding of embryonic stem cell research?
A: Programs like this are not authorized under the Constitution. The trouble with issues like this is, in Washington we either prohibit it or subsidize it. And the market should deal with it, and the states should deal with it.

Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007

Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines.

This Kills it for me....