I love the dramatics.

that's all it really is,then they accuse others of Propaganda!

From The Opening Post




DeCarlo then described what happened after the spies were dragged from their van. “When we removed them, one of the guys that was rather chatty said: ‘We’re not your enemy, we’re your friend. Our enemies are your enemies,’” DeCarlo said. “At that point they said they were from Israel. They kept saying, ‘Hey, we’re on your side.’”

so?
Was he there when they were interrogated?
NOPE!
He wasn't!
He's another Peacock trying to cash in on the Tragedy!

So much that America refused to let the Jews flee to America when they most needed to. Millions died because America would not let them come here. They had their 'excuses."

..But the plan of Zionism worldwide was to make any place in the world dangerous and unwelcome for Jews so they would eventually have to go to Israel. Israel needs Jews in order to increase the Jewish population in order to be a state.

And why do you suppose they want Jews to go to Israel? Some people say that someone is trying to fulfill a prophecy for the end of the world.

Did you enlist?

this makes no sense... do you have a reference that America didn't let the Jews come here?

I'm 48 and is this relevant, Troll?

Sure.
History.

Although thousands of Jews had been admitted into the United States under the combined German-Austrian quota from 1938–1941, the US did not pursue an organized and specific rescue policy for Jewish victims of Nazi Germany until early 1944.

While some American activists sincerely intended to assist refugees, serious obstacles to any relaxation of US immigration quotas included public opposition to immigration during a time of economic depression, xenophobia, and antisemitic feelings in both the general public and among some key government officials. Once the United States entered World War II, the State Department practiced stricter immigration policies out of fear that refugees could be blackmailed into working as agents for Germany.

It was not until January 1944 that President Franklin D. Roosevelt, under pressure from officials in his own government and an American Jewish community then fully aware of the extent of mass murder, took action to rescue European Jews. Following discussions with Treasury Department officials, he established the War Refugee Board (WRB) to facilitate the rescue of imperiled refugees. With the assistance of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee and the World Jewish Congress, as well as resistance organizations in German-occupied Europe, the WRB helped to rescue many thousands of Jews in Hungary, Romania, and elsewhere in Europe.

In April 1944, Roosevelt also directed that Fort Ontario, New York, become a free port for refugees. However, only a few thousand refugees were allowed there and they were from liberated areas, not from Nazi-occupied areas. They were in no imminent danger of deportation to killing centers in German-occupied Poland.

Ultimately, Allied victory brought an end to Nazi terror in Europe and to the war in the Pacific. However, liberated Jews, suffering from illness and exhaustion, emerged from concentration camps and hiding places to discover a world which had no place for them. Bereft of home and family and reluctant to return to their prewar homelands, these Jewish displaced persons (DPs) were joined in a matter of months by more than 150,000 other Jews fleeing fierce antisemitism in Poland, Hungary, Romania, and the Soviet Union.

Most sought to begin a new life outside Europe. Palestine was the most favored destination of Jewish Holocaust survivors, followed by the United States. Immigration restrictions were still in effect in the United States after the war, and legislation to expedite the admission of Jewish DPs was slow in coming.

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http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007094

So? That doesn't mean that the US didn't allow Jews to escape from Nazi Getrmany. The allies were not even sure what happened to the Jews until the liberation of the first camps in (guess when?) 1944.

No need for name calling I asked a simple quistion.

Why is it relevant, and what is it to you? Btw, spellcheck is your friend.

Congressional action was needed before existing immigration quotas could be increased. In 1948, following intense lobbying by the American Jewish community, Congress passed legislation to admit 400,000 DPs to the United States. Nearly 80,000 of these, or about 20 percent, were Jewish DPs. The rest were Christians from Eastern Europe and the Baltics, many of whom had been forced laborers in Germany. The entry requirements favored agricultural laborers to such an extent, however, that President Truman called the law "flagrantly discriminatory against Jews." Congress amended the law in 1950, but by that time most of the Jewish DPs in Europe had gone to the newly established state of Israel (founded on May 14, 1948).

It just seems that those who are so pro war have never served as I have.

I suppose one actualy has to wear the boots to get a firm grip on the subject.

Where have I said I was 'pro-war'? I knew you were going to pull some stupid ****.

well your correct you never specificly said "I am pro war"
but the flavor of your arguments supporting conflict rather than resulation may have misled me. perhapse I am mistaken if so my appologies. But since we are on the subject are you pro Iraq war?

You said: "Millions died because America would not let them come here"

That statement implies the the US could have prevented the holocaust if they let "millions" emigrate. Crystal ball stuff?

a)The policy of the 'Final Solution' was not implemented until 1942. The camps were discovered by the invading allies in 1944.

b). "Millions" didn't apply for entry into the US anyway.

c). Immigration quotas are enforced by most nations. Jewish immigration from Europe was only possible up to 1940, after which, Fortress Europe was established, thereafter, what was going on inside Europe was largely unknown to the allies.

Your initial statement is an anachronism at best..

Apology accepted.

The Holocaust most certainly could have been prevented. The number of Jews that were killed has been disputed for quite a while. I think the official number is 6 million.

People who saved Jews during world war 2:

http://www.listal.com/list/nazi-officers-saved-jews

America certainly could have done more to help.


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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar