Blah blah blah blah blah.

If you want to take drugs recreationally do it on your own dime.

I think we ought to legalize drugs, but then make all such government benefits have such stipulations, that way you are rewarding productive members of society with complete freedoms.

Mooching off the system should have thresholds. I see no problem with requiring a person to meet those, very low, bars.

I agree also that politicians should be random drug tested . . . becuase I think many are WAAAAAAAAAY ****ed up.

and term limits, disclosure pledges, and a constitutional course study program!

And a "cost of living" wage rather than yearly raises they vote for themselves.

Make them live under the laws they pass!

Ms, the ones being discriminated against are the TAX PAYERS.
Do it on their own dime. They can do drugs or have food for their family. Simple choice.

this always seems the argument of those the laws WONT Affect,,lol

kind of like the immigration policy
(if you have nothing to hide, whats the problem, is the usual retort,,lol)

the irony is,,, those protesting the 'dimes' it costs taxpayers are signing on to spend even more of those precious dimes than they will save,,,,

but, God bless em,, sometimes it takes time to learn...

Yes, it has taken us a long time to learn.

Well, that just means the people will get a choice on how to spend their money before the govt does it for them!

arent the politicians advertising and supporting the policy part of that 'government'?

What difference? The voters decide.

my point exactly, the people getting to choose 'firstp is the illusion

the politicians want what the people want, the people want what the politicians tell them they want,,,,

which comes 'first' is really hard to determine,,,

Who's minding the kids????

Does anyone here see the impact of inflation on the cost of their food? The real corporate welfare fraud is much bigger than poor man's welfare fraud. This topic in particular is a tool to divide and conquer us. Really people wake up!


Click below for a real welfare fraud case.

http://rt.com/usa/news/fed-federal-reserve-report-938/

I believe, both are major problems. They are two different areas.
However corporate fraud is a totally different topic.

I hope the mods will remove your post and link. It may have been an accidental attempt to highjack this thread.

The tie that binds....

What are you saying my friend? Ever hear of "the butterfly effect'?

Welfare is welfare, whether it begins at the bottom or the top the abuse is the same.

Joe just brought it to a new level than the thread had previously mentioned. A VALID one!

In our banker run system ALL are considered on welfare as the banks are the ONLY owners of anything....by design! The IRS is their police, goon squad, enforcers with powers awarded even beyond govt reach, as we were sold to them in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act.

Since then, we have all been on welfare and only received what they would allow us after their "taxes" or protection money.... which they are now wanting a larger part of that as well.

Take from all, give to the rich, enslave and indenture the poor.... but in their greed they need more slaves...so the process of creating them continues.

A working class of welfare clients is far more cost effective than workers with rights, benefits and retirement packages.

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Don't pretend to know my family situation. My mom was unable to work due to medical problems since before I was born. If you are parents you have a responsibility. If you can't afford to take care of yourself you shouldn't be having kids. You make saceifices for the family. There were times my family wanted a divorce but stayed together and glad they did. Times i could have turned my father in for abuse but didnt as i knew my mom couldnt support us. Sometimes you just grit your teeth and do whats best for the family.

No, it's an attempt to keep things in perspective. The practice of divide and conquer is how the establishment controls us. From a financial perspective, the cocaine addicted bankers steal more from us than any other organization. As for where the drugs come from, that's a federal government issue. They are the main suppliers at least of Heroin. Forcing drug testing on the poor is allopathic, and does nothing to stop the flow of drugs into the country.

Thank you. That the mother of my child is struggling with addiction to crack and unable to have anything other than supervised visits doesn't change my understanding of the phony war on drugs. This war was manufactured in 1971 and this is what I told city counsel months ago, and reiterated last Monday.

http://www.oretek.com/drugs/drugs.doc





By design, we are slaves and only have the delusion of freedom. The banks get all new money first, and as witnessed by the stock market, they must be getting an infusion even now. That's perfectly fine with me, as I'm getting off the dollar progressively for all things, and helping myself and my neighbors to do so also. In my neighborhood, most families are on WIC, welfare, disability and are in fact poor, down trodden, and addicted to federally sponsored prison approved drugs. Want to stop drugs? Get our military and NGOS out of Afghanistan and Iraq, and let the Taliban destroy the opium crops again.

YES!!!

People should be outraged and taking to the streets!

Instead they blame the country's problems on the poor and illegals,
or the current president. Instead of having compassion and looking at where the REAL crooks are.

Sad part is, it's working.
We have been successfully divided,
now we are soooo much easier to control.

Wake up people is right!!!

Lots of agreement here.

I am sick of being subjected to higher standards than people who do NOT work. I know there are exceptions to every rule and there are good people who are on welfare, etc. I'm not trying to demonize the poor or the single parent (which, by the way - I've been BOTH in my life) but honestly - if you can't pass the same drug screen that I have to pass in order to have a job that SUPPORTS your tax-based income, then you shouldn't get it! I am okay with assistance (to get people on their feet - not as a career) and my tax dollars contribute. Don't screw with me. Don't try to tell me that most welfare recipients never do drugs and are hard-workers who just can't find jobs. This all goes for politicians, too, who I agree "many are WAAAAAAAAAY ****ed up."

Geez, people...that you would think this is a bad idea while you have to go pee in a cup to get a job is just ludicrous.

Funny how dope users and/or progressives don't believe normal folks can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

Most certainly, Corps are a major problem.

So are drug using welfare recipients and the freakin' Illegal.

All three of those issues could be dealt with.

But, we have an administration that is more interested in being voted back in than solving any problem.

Don't bogart that joint, my son, pass it over to Mom!

Here's one to keep the stoners occupied and out of trouble.

http://neave.com/bouncy-balls/

or, perhaps they'll like this one.

http://neave.com/imagination/

But, if they're not into manual labor, here's one that will do the work for 'em.

http://neave.com/strobe/

Drug testing will save lives, boost Barry's creating jobs lie and save Tax Payers money.