Topic: Why Ireland supports Palestine...
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Wed 06/20/12 01:38 PM
Modern Ireland: The perfect liberal state. ‘Progressive’, European, and Jew hating.
Ireland is a slave to history with regard to the virulent anti-Semitism problem. What makes it persist?
Hezbollah are far nicer people than Jews, so we're told. By Bernard Mccabe on 24 June 2011 at 10am

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In 1904, Limerick’s Jewish community was devastated by an infamous pogrom that saw them largely driven from the city. The words that catalysed this pogrom come as no surprise to anyone: the Jews, said Father John Creagh (who kick-started the activity), are usurers, freemasons, Christ-killers.

But okay, that was 1904. Things have moved on, right? Certainly, modern Ireland is more accepting of homosexuals and has liberalised attitudes towards women. It’s not quite the same story for one group though. That’s right, the Jews. The JC reports that in a new study by sociologist-priest Father Micheál Mac Gréil, twenty-five percent of Irish people wouldn’t allow Israelis to become Irish citizens, and eleven percent of Irish men and women wouldn’t allow any Jew from taking up citizenship. Forty percent of Irish people wouldn’t allow a Jew into their family.

All of this is of course shocking, but the most telling statistic is this: within the 18-25 age grouping, the percentage of people who couldn’t handle a Jew being in their family was higher at forty-six percent. These figures surely act as a damning indictment against the indoctrination of students by that unhealthy cocktail of Islamists, leftists and ‘liberals’. The Irish intelligentsia and liberalculturati are the same folks as the Islington social oligarchs who saw Arafat as the new Gandhi and Sharon as the new Hitler. Every corner of Irish culture is poisoned by this vile anti-Semitism.

It’s hardly even worth saying that young people are more anti-Israel. Anti-Israel activity on British campuses has already been well documented, but at least in the United Kingdom we have some sort of history of (at least marginal) support for Israel. In the past, however, as in the present, Ireland has been vehemently anti-Israel politically and culturally. Indeed, it is the only issue other than appetite for more accession of sovereignty to the EU that truly unites the vast majority of Irish politicians. Ireland, for example, was the last EU country to grant permission for an Israeli embassy – in 1993.

Where does all this hatred come from? Are my compatriots Nazi sympathisers? Has Ireland been taken over by a radical Islam that makes Ian Paisley look as harmless as Christine Bleakley? No, the truth is that anti-Semitism in Ireland has a long history.

In the old days, it came from (as it did across Europe) an extreme Catholicism. Latterly, anti-Semitism has found its provenance from Ireland’s consistently pro-Palestinian position. Ireland was of course for 800 years oppressed by the evil hand of British rule (that brought us roads, education, some form of civilisation), and the fight to ‘free’ her could take as many lives as possible.

As slaves to history, and in the great Irish tradition of storytelling, they (or I should say, we) look to the Middle East and localize that situation and apply the same logic. The Jews are just like the Brits, you see. Forget the actual Holocaust, they imply, the real Holocaust is actually carried out by the Israelis.

Fr Mac Gréil’s study is of course shocking. But is it really surprising? Judaeophobia is the hatred en vogue of the bien-pensants.

As Ireland ‘progresses’ socially, one is left wondering whether it really is the island of Chaim Herzog. It also makes one wonder whether we need a new definition of ‘progress’.

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Wed 06/20/12 02:13 PM


How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh

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Wed 06/20/12 02:40 PM



How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh


I called it anti-Irishism. laugh

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Wed 06/20/12 02:47 PM




How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh


I called it anti-Irishism. laugh


You're all wrong, my thread is about extreme anti-semitism in Ireland ....happy

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Wed 06/20/12 02:54 PM




How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh




I called it anti-Irishism. laugh



So did Noam Chomskylaugh

Anti-Semitism undoubtedly exists, but it's now on a par, in my view, with other kinds of prejudice of all sorts. I don't think it's more than anti-Italianism or anti-Irishism, and that's been a very significant change in the last generation, one that I've experienced myself in my own life, and it's very visible throughout the society.

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Wed 06/20/12 02:56 PM





How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh


I called it anti-Irishism. laugh


You're all wrong, my thread is about extreme anti-semitism in Ireland ....happy



No such thing.

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Wed 06/20/12 03:16 PM





How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh




I called it anti-Irishism. laugh



So did Noam Chomskylaugh

Anti-Semitism undoubtedly exists, but it's now on a par, in my view, with other kinds of prejudice of all sorts. I don't think it's more than anti-Italianism or anti-Irishism, and that's been a very significant change in the last generation, one that I've experienced myself in my own life, and it's very visible throughout the society.


Chomsky's famous ability to obfuscate...


Everyone knows Noam Chomsky of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his linguistics and his left-wing politics. But the fact is he also plays an important role in the neo-Nazi movement of our time...

Chomsky's most ambitious book about the Jews and Israel, published in 1983, is entitled "The Fateful Triangle: The United States, Israel and the Palestinians".... It purports to review the history and current status of the Arab-Israel dispute as well as the role of the United States in it....... The book is featured as a prized item on the book lists of organized anti-Semitism......




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Wed 06/20/12 03:55 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Wed 06/20/12 03:56 PM






How nice. the first Bash Ireland Thread.
Anti-Celticism rearing its ugly head...laugh
laugh




I called it anti-Irishism. laugh



So did Noam Chomskylaugh

Anti-Semitism undoubtedly exists, but it's now on a par, in my view, with other kinds of prejudice of all sorts. I don't think it's more than anti-Italianism or anti-Irishism, and that's been a very significant change in the last generation, one that I've experienced myself in my own life, and it's very visible throughout the society.


Chomsky's famous ability to obfuscate...


Everyone knows Noam Chomsky of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his linguistics and his left-wing politics. But the fact is he also plays an important role in the neo-Nazi movement of our time...

Chomsky's most ambitious book about the Jews and Israel, published in 1983, is entitled "The Fateful Triangle: The United States, Israel and the Palestinians".... It purports to review the history and current status of the Arab-Israel dispute as well as the role of the United States in it....... The book is featured as a prized item on the book lists of organized anti-Semitism......




I saw it at the Public Library. Anyone who tells the truth is labled an anti semite by some folks here. Chomksy tells both sides of the conflict allways has no propaganda models just the truth.

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Wed 06/20/12 04:04 PM
Some of what Chomsky has to say about a Palestinian/Israel Solution


The only realistic political settlement, for the time being, in the past ten or twelve years, that would satisfy the right of self-determination for both national groups is a two-state settlement. Everybody knows what it would have to be: Israel within approximately the pre-June 1967 borders and a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and a return of the Golan Heights to Syria, or maybe some other arrangement. This would be associated with maybe demilitarized zones and international guarantees of some sort or another, but that's the framework of a possible political settlement. As I say, I don't think it's the best one, but that's the realistic one, very realistic. It's supported by most of the world. It's supported by Europe, by the Soviet Union, has been for a long time, by almost all the non-aligned countries, it's supported by all the major Arab states and has been for a long time, supported by the mainstream of the PLO and, again, has been for a long time, it's supported even by the American population, by about two to one according to the polls. But there are also people who oppose it. It's opposed by the rejection front in the Arab world, the minority elements of the PLO, Libya, a few others, minority rejectionist elements, but crucially it's opposed by the leaders of the rejection front, namely the United States and Israel. The United States and Israel adamantly oppose it. The United States will not consider it. Both political groupings in Israel reject it totally. They reject any right of national self-determination for the indigenous popula- tion in the former Palestine

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Wed 06/20/12 04:45 PM
Chomsky’s moral perspective is completely one-sided. No matter how great the crimes of the regimes he has favored, such as China, Vietnam, and Cambodia under the communists, Chomsky has never demanded their leaders be captured and tried for war crimes. Instead, he has defended these regimes for many years to the best of his ability through the use of evidence he must have realized was selective, deceptive, and in some cases invented.

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Wed 06/20/12 08:46 PM
Chomsky may deny being an anti-semite, use word play ( semantics) to disguise his verbal aggression toward Israel, claim it is nothing more than a critique of their policy, but his constant denunciation, vilification of the state and its right to exist is transparent...Listen carefully to the man...His language has an edge to it....It is bitter, it is angry, and it goes way beyond normal political criticism....When Israel is demonized, delegitimized, and held to double standards, norman criticism becomes anti-semitism... Sadly, everytime Chomsky opens his mouth about Israel he crosses this line...

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Wed 06/20/12 08:48 PM
There are a lot of people who don't know how to tell the Masters who pull the strings from the slaves.


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Wed 06/20/12 08:52 PM

There are a lot of people who don't know how to tell the Masters who pull the strings from the slaves.




Names please....

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Wed 06/20/12 09:05 PM


There are a lot of people who don't know how to tell the Masters who pull the strings from the slaves.




Names please....


Really? You want names?

Well I'll just say that anyone who blames "the Jews" for the evil in the world that you are calling "anti-semitic" does not realize that it is not the Jews.

It is the Rothschild family Zionists and the other Elite family bloodlines who own and control the banking systems of this world.

(geeeze I don't know how many times I have to say that.)

The Rothschild Cartel family dynasty created Zionism and Israel. They also created "anti-Semitism." And guess what? That don't care one thing about the Jews.










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Thu 06/21/12 03:42 AM



There are a lot of people who don't know how to tell the Masters who pull the strings from the slaves.




Names please....


Really? You want names?

Well I'll just say that anyone who blames "the Jews" for the evil in the world that you are calling "anti-semitic" does not realize that it is not the Jews.

It is the Rothschild family Zionists and the other Elite family bloodlines who own and control the banking systems of this world.

(geeeze I don't know how many times I have to say that.)

The Rothschild Cartel family dynasty created Zionism and Israel. They also created "anti-Semitism." And guess what? That don't care one thing about the Jews.












Can you be more specific?

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Thu 06/21/12 04:47 AM

"America's Dumbest Intellectual"...

For Chomsky, turn over any monster anywhere and look at the underside. Each is clearly marked: MADE IN AMERICA. The cold war? All America’s fault: “The United States was picking up where the Nazis had left off.” Castro’s executions and prisons filled with dissenters? Irrelevant, for “Cuba has probably been the target of more international terrorism [from the U.S., of course] than any other country.” The Khmer Rouge? Back in 1977, Chomsky dismissed accounts of the Cambodian genocide as “tales of Communist atrocities” based on “unreliable” accounts. At most, the executions “numbered in the thousands” and were “aggravated by the threat of starvation resulting from American distraction and killing.” In fact, some 2 million perished on the killing fields of Cambodia because of genocidal war against the urban bourgeoisie and the educated, in which wearing a pair of glasses could mean a death sentence.

The Chomskian rage hasn’t confined itself to his native land. He has long nourished a special contempt for Israel, lone outpost of Western ideals in the Middle East. The hatred has been so intense that Zionists have called him a self-hating Jew. This is an unfair label. Clearly, Chomsky has no deficit in the self-love department, and his ability to stir up antagonism makes him even more pleased with himself. No doubt that was why he wrote the introduction to a book by French Holocaust-denier Robert Faurisson. Memoire en Defense maintains that Hitler’s death camps and gas chambers, even Anne Frank’s diary, are fictions, created to serve the cause of American Zionists. That was too much for Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who challenged fellow leftist Chomsky to a debate. In the debate, Dershowitz keyed in on the fact that Chomsky had described Faurisson’s conclusions as “findings,” and claimed that they grew out of “extensive historical research.” But as numerous scholars had shown, Faurisson was not a serious scholar at all, but rather a sophist who simply ignored the mountain of documents, speeches, testimony, and other historical evidence that conflicted with his “argument.” Dershowitz noted that Chomsky also wrote the following: “I see no anti-Semitic implication in the denial of the existence of gas chambers or even in the denial of the Holocaust.”


http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_3_urbanities-americas_dumbe.html

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Thu 06/21/12 06:45 AM
"Just recently, Chomsky spearheaded a group pressuring universities to divest themselves of any stock connected with the Jewish state: Israel equals South Africa in the Chomskian universe of moral equivalence. Here, happily, Chomsky got nowhere. He obtained 400 signatures for his movement; opposing him, Lawrence Summers, president of Harvard, gathered 4,000 signatures in support of Israel. The controversy set Dershowitz off again. This time, he said, he wanted the MIT prof to debate him “on the morality of this selective attack against an American ally that is defending itself—and the world—against terrorism that targets civilians.” He pointed out that universities have always invested in companies head-quartered in foreign nations with unsavory reputations—countries whose citizens don’t have the freedom the Israelis enjoy or suffer the terror they endure. “Yet this petition focused only on the Jewish State, to the exclusion of all others, including those which, by any reasonable standard, are among the worst violators of human rights. This is bigotry pure and simple.” Chomsky declined the challenge."

http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_3_urbanities-americas_dumbe.html

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Thu 06/21/12 07:03 AM
The hatred has been so intense that Zionists have called him a self-hating Jew.


Buzz words. I seriously doubt there is any such thing as a self hating Jew. He (Chomsky)probably hates the Rothschild Zionist criminals. He sees them for what they are. Criminals.

Seems like when anyone criticizes the Rothschild criminals, they are attacked and called either "anti-Semitic" or a "self-hating Jew."

Sorry, that tactic is getting so drool and boring. Its so predictable. Now you can know them not only by their deeds, but by the language they use.

They are criminals not Jews. They worship their God Satan.

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Thu 06/21/12 07:12 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Thu 06/21/12 07:13 AM

The hatred has been so intense that Zionists have called him a self-hating Jew.


Buzz words. I seriously doubt there is any such thing as a self hating Jew. He (Chomsky)probably hates the Rothschild Zionist criminals. He sees them for what they are. Criminals.

Seems like when anyone criticizes the Rothschild criminals, they are attacked and called either "anti-Semitic" or a "self-hating Jew."

Sorry, that tactic is getting so drool and boring. Its so predictable. Now you can know them not only by their deeds, but by the language they use.

They are criminals not Jews. They worship their God Satan.



So now you are speaking for Chomsky too?...At least you say "probably" this time....That means you have no idea who Chomsky hates....But you're right about him hating, the man does hate jews...

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Thu 06/21/12 07:16 AM
Can you be more specific?


When I say "Don't confuse the Masters with their slaves." I mean don't confuse the Jewish people with the Rothschild Zionist agenda and the banking cartel criminals who are creating this "anti-Israel" sentiment all over the world.

They are not to be confused as Jewish people who practice Judaism nor are they the descendants of the mythical Abraham. They have no Godly right or claim to Israel, Jerusalem or Palestine.

I can't get more specific than that.

When I say, "You can know them by their deeds." I mean that they purposely hide and blend in with the Jewish people and they claim to be Jewish. They are not. They are the synagogue of Satan. (They actually worship Satan, the snake) They are the secret brotherhood of the snake.