Topic: Jesus is not coming back any time soon, Pope says.
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Thu 06/21/12 10:10 AM



Cowboy the verses perfectly state what they mean you can try to pull wool over peoples eyes with your theological apologetic BS all you want but the verses in matthew and luke specifically say jesus was to return in their lifetime.


He said NOTHING about their life time. Only "This generation". But when speaking of an eternal being, and the fact that "Generation" isn't set in stone in amount of time, it is only you that is assuming when he said "generation" he was referring to their life time.

this is all crap cowboy you're trying to make a mistake and claim it to be what you want it to be.the facts are Jesus promised his second coming to his apostles,disciples and a high preist in their lifetime.You're just trying to manipulate it to make yourself believe he didn't promise it.Matthew,Luke and Mark have different stories about when the scribes and priest were there when jesus was brought to the high preist after his arrest.



There is no mistake, what are you talking about? If Jesus promised his second coming to his apostles, disciples, and a high preist in their lifetime, please enlighten us with a verse(s) that state specifically there "lifetime". A generation is not a "lifetime". We use it to refer to a lifetime, because we grow old and die. We're speaking of an eternal being here. And as I've shown specifically in the definition of "generation", it has no specific set of time framing in what a generation is. Just usually accepted as from parent to child, parent to child, ect. But again, the term generation doesn't specificy a time frame. And also while you are finding that verse(s), show one where it says in "YOUR" generation.

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Thu 06/21/12 10:13 AM



Cowboy the verses perfectly state what they mean you can try to pull wool over peoples eyes with your theological apologetic BS all you want but the verses in matthew and luke specifically say jesus was to return in their lifetime.


He said NOTHING about their life time. Only "This generation". But when speaking of an eternal being, and the fact that "Generation" isn't set in stone in amount of time, it is only you that is assuming when he said "generation" he was referring to their life time.

But there can't be no Generations in Eternity,or it wouldn't be Eternity!


Notice in the following verse, it doesn't say "YOUR" generation. Says "this" generation. Also again, a generation does not have to be parent to child. It is a set period of time, period. It's just commonly accepted to be parent to child, but that does not mean that it has to be.

Matthew 24:34
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

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Thu 06/21/12 11:43 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 11:43 AM
Matthew 24:34
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


Sounds like a clue to me.
Maybe Jesus came back and nobody wrote about the event.

So we just didn't hear about it.

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Thu 06/21/12 12:25 PM

Matthew 24:34
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


Sounds like a clue to me.
Maybe Jesus came back and nobody wrote about the event.

So we just didn't hear about it.



Again, a "generation" is not denoted to 60 years or any specific amount of exact time.

We are still that same generation.

Generation - a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor

Again, there is no specific time framing in there.

Generation - The average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children grow up and have children of their own

Notice generally "considered". With something being "considered" infers there is no exact amount, just what the person(s) choose it to be. We know not how long God thinks of a "generation". Again, we're speaking of an eternal being, whom has no beginning and will see no end.

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Thu 06/21/12 01:23 PM


Matthew 24:34
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


Sounds like a clue to me.
Maybe Jesus came back and nobody wrote about the event.

So we just didn't hear about it.



Again, a "generation" is not denoted to 60 years or any specific amount of exact time.

We are still that same generation.


ER, no, we are not.

Generation - a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor

Again, there is no specific time framing in there.


Yes, there is... a single step in the line of descent means from father to son.



Generation - The average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children grow up and have children of their own

Notice generally "considered". With something being "considered" infers there is no exact amount, just what the person(s) choose it to be. We know not how long God thinks of a "generation". Again, we're speaking of an eternal being, whom has no beginning and will see no end.


You are reaching in order to stretch what is written into what you want to believe Cowboy.

You don't want to know or explore what might be the truth for fear it will drastically change what you currently believe.

I've seen you do this a lot.



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Thu 06/21/12 02:31 PM



Matthew 24:34
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


Sounds like a clue to me.
Maybe Jesus came back and nobody wrote about the event.

So we just didn't hear about it.



Again, a "generation" is not denoted to 60 years or any specific amount of exact time.

We are still that same generation.


ER, no, we are not.

Generation - a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor

Again, there is no specific time framing in there.


Yes, there is... a single step in the line of descent means from father to son.



Generation - The average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children grow up and have children of their own

Notice generally "considered". With something being "considered" infers there is no exact amount, just what the person(s) choose it to be. We know not how long God thinks of a "generation". Again, we're speaking of an eternal being, whom has no beginning and will see no end.


You are reaching in order to stretch what is written into what you want to believe Cowboy.

You don't want to know or explore what might be the truth for fear it will drastically change what you currently believe.

I've seen you do this a lot.






ER, no, we are not.


What says we are not still the same generation? Again, a generation does not have to be from father to child or mother to child. A generation has no specific set period of time. So, again I ask, why wouldn't we quite possibly be considered that same generation?


Yes, there is... a single step in the line of descent means from father to son.


Doesn't have to be though, or it would have said so. In this definition a culture could consider 10 years a generation, 20 years a generation, 50 years a generation, 100, years a generation, or even 1000 years a generation. When speaking of thousands of years, 100 years would be merely a step in time.


You don't want to know or explore what might be the truth for fear it will drastically change what you currently believe.

I've seen you do this a lot.


Ah, think you need some visine, your vision is a bit foggy.

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Thu 06/21/12 03:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 03:47 PM
Doesn't have to be though, or it would have said so. In this definition a culture could consider 10 years a generation, 20 years a generation, 50 years a generation, 100, years a generation, or even 1000 years a generation. When speaking of thousands of years, 100 years would be merely a step in time.


Yes it pretty much implies one human generation, one step, from father to son.

Ten years is a decade, not a generation. You are making up stuff and interpreting the Bible to suit YOU.

That's fine for you, but don't try to lay that b.s. on me. I know what a generation means in human terms.




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Thu 06/21/12 04:58 PM

Doesn't have to be though, or it would have said so. In this definition a culture could consider 10 years a generation, 20 years a generation, 50 years a generation, 100, years a generation, or even 1000 years a generation. When speaking of thousands of years, 100 years would be merely a step in time.


Yes it pretty much implies one human generation, one step, from father to son.

Ten years is a decade, not a generation. You are making up stuff and interpreting the Bible to suit YOU.

That's fine for you, but don't try to lay that b.s. on me. I know what a generation means in human terms.






How does it imply that? Says "this" generation, he did not say "your" generation. So again, how is it implying anything other?

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Thu 06/21/12 05:53 PM


Doesn't have to be though, or it would have said so. In this definition a culture could consider 10 years a generation, 20 years a generation, 50 years a generation, 100, years a generation, or even 1000 years a generation. When speaking of thousands of years, 100 years would be merely a step in time.


Yes it pretty much implies one human generation, one step, from father to son.

Ten years is a decade, not a generation. You are making up stuff and interpreting the Bible to suit YOU.

That's fine for you, but don't try to lay that b.s. on me. I know what a generation means in human terms.






How does it imply that? Says "this" generation, he did not say "your" generation. So again, how is it implying anything other?


A generation implies the life of the living being. A generation of an elephant might be 120 years. Humans live to 60-80. I would say a generation is about roughly every 100 years.


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Thu 06/21/12 06:24 PM



Doesn't have to be though, or it would have said so. In this definition a culture could consider 10 years a generation, 20 years a generation, 50 years a generation, 100, years a generation, or even 1000 years a generation. When speaking of thousands of years, 100 years would be merely a step in time.


Yes it pretty much implies one human generation, one step, from father to son.

Ten years is a decade, not a generation. You are making up stuff and interpreting the Bible to suit YOU.

That's fine for you, but don't try to lay that b.s. on me. I know what a generation means in human terms.






How does it imply that? Says "this" generation, he did not say "your" generation. So again, how is it implying anything other?


A generation implies the life of the living being. A generation of an elephant might be 120 years. Humans live to 60-80. I would say a generation is about roughly every 100 years.




Again, it does not say "your" generation, does not say the living generation. Just says "this" generation. And a generation is not life of a living thing, that is just one way people use it, but it is not secluded to that use. A generation is merely a set period of time points. We are mortal people use generation to discribe a life span. But again, we're speaking on an eternal level, not a mortal level of the word "generation" because again he did not say "your generation". The word "this" is very vague and could be talking of a number of different possibilities.

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Thu 06/21/12 06:41 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 06:46 PM
Hey look it up. It means what it means. No matter what you do, you can't change what the word means.

Geeeze.frustrated frustrated


But hey, you can interpret it ANY WAY YOU WANT. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. OKAY?

It just seems to me occam's razor applies to the verse. The simplest meaning is probably the right one. Don't complicate everything just to get it to fit into your para-dime.

Unless of course, your entire world will come crashing down if you don't. Then, by all means, believe what you want.









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Thu 06/21/12 07:41 PM

Hey look it up. It means what it means. No matter what you do, you can't change what the word means.

Geeeze.frustrated frustrated


But hey, you can interpret it ANY WAY YOU WANT. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. OKAY?

It just seems to me occam's razor applies to the verse. The simplest meaning is probably the right one. Don't complicate everything just to get it to fit into your para-dime.

Unless of course, your entire world will come crashing down if you don't. Then, by all means, believe what you want.












Look what up? "Generation"? I did, I even posted the definitions. And one of the definitions was a time span of point A to time span point B. It's "generally" considered 50 - 60 years, but it does not HAVE to be. It's not about getting something to "fit". That's when you have to use context to see what "definition" should apply. And again, he did not say "your" generation, or the generation that is currently on the planet. He said "this" generation. There was one generation, Adam/eve to Jesus Christ, now we're in another generation Jesus till judgement. For each generation God made a covenant with, thus the reason for two different covenants, two different sets of laws.

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Thu 06/21/12 07:56 PM
What ever you want to believe.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:02 PM

What ever you want to believe.


??? I thought that was always the case... You speak like you're either trying to change other people's views, or think other's are trying to change yours. Let's all just have a civil nice SHARING discussion on things we believe and or why we believe them according to the different topics at hand. That is what this forum is for, for sharing inner beliefs on religious matters.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:04 PM


What ever you want to believe.


??? I thought that was always the case... You speak like you're either trying to change other people's views, or think other's are trying to change yours. Let's all just have a civil nice SHARING discussion on things we believe and or why we believe them according to the different topics at hand. That is what this forum is for, for sharing inner beliefs on religious matters.


No, it seems that you are the one who can't seem to let this one go and you keep trying to convince me or yourself of something.

I disagree with you. Okay?

"this generation" in that verse, in my opinion, refers to human life spans.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:22 PM



What ever you want to believe.


??? I thought that was always the case... You speak like you're either trying to change other people's views, or think other's are trying to change yours. Let's all just have a civil nice SHARING discussion on things we believe and or why we believe them according to the different topics at hand. That is what this forum is for, for sharing inner beliefs on religious matters.


No, it seems that you are the one who can't seem to let this one go and you keep trying to convince me or yourself of something.

I disagree with you. Okay?

"this generation" in that verse, in my opinion, refers to human life spans.


ok lol.

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Fri 06/22/12 07:36 AM
Hic Vanidici Latitant

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Fri 06/22/12 07:48 AM
no offense to the Pope, he is free to an opinion like anyone else

but Jesus may come back in the next five minutes or in the next five millenia,,,no man/woman knows the day,,,

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Fri 06/22/12 08:02 AM
I think the point was to help those people who fall prey to those false teachers, such as, Harold Camping, etc. Where people quit their jobs and sold all their possessions because some "holy man" told them that it was happening soon.

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Fri 06/22/12 03:15 PM
Jesus said he was coming back when Hollywood finally makes a decent movie...so not in our lifetime is my guess.