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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? |
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Its true to form......
a bandaid on the severed arm is ..... ALWAYS the answer!!!!!! |
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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? hmmm, lets see, lots there,,,,lets research 1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/ 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99320089 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,, 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not |
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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? hmmm, lets see, lots there,,,,lets research 1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/ 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99320089 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,, 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not Nice spin Ms. 
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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? hmmm, lets see, lots there,,,,lets research 1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/ 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99320089 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,, 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not Nice spin Ms.
no spin,, just a BALANCED perspective 
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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? hmmm, lets see, lots there,,,,lets research 1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/ 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99320089 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,, 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not Nice spin Ms.
no spin,, just a BALANCED perspective
You can call it that if you like.
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Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and will be fined for if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that's broke. What could possibly go wrong? hmmm, lets see, lots there,,,,lets research 1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/ 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99320089 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,, 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not Nice spin Ms.
no spin,, just a BALANCED perspective
You can call it that if you like.
I like and likewise, you can call it spin if you like,,,
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Leigh2154
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke |
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Large yes lol. Obese no.
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Large yes lol. Obese no.
Well....she does kinda have that Jaba the Hut thingy workin around the neck there!!!!! Just sayin....... |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. |
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Yup, what the heck do we need health care for?
Lets just let all those nasty poor people die and make the world a lot less crowded for the rest of us. |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... I know, in these threads noone needs to ASK anything,, assuming is perfectly acceptable with no credible evidence to accompany at all.... |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... I know, in these threads noone needs to ASK anything,, assuming is perfectly acceptable with no credible evidence to accompany at all.... Why furnish credible evidence? It's always replied with spin anyway. |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... I know, in these threads noone needs to ASK anything,, assuming is perfectly acceptable with no credible evidence to accompany at all.... Why furnish credible evidence? It's always replied with spin anyway. I have a secret I want to share,,,, in a thread of 'opinions', MOST of what is posted has a 'spin' on it used to support that personal opinion,,,,, but that does not imply that most of what is posted is therefore LIES<,,, |
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... I know, in these threads noone needs to ASK anything,, assuming is perfectly acceptable with no credible evidence to accompany at all.... Why furnish credible evidence? It's always replied with spin anyway. I have a secret I want to share,,,, in a thread of 'opinions', MOST of what is posted has a 'spin' on it used to support that personal opinion,,,,, but that does not imply that most of what is posted is therefore LIES<,,, See. 
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1.gifted with a plan we are forced to purchase?,,,yes,, kind of like our military, our educational system and medicare Apples to oranges, again... A TAX TO A TAX ..APPLES TO APPLES 2. written by a committe whose chairman doesnt understand it? probably there have been several versions passed and edited by several people and committees since its inception,, its probably true amongst them were those who didnt understand completely and EVEN one that may be a chairman of one of the ocmmittees. So does this make it acceptable or can we just call your rebuttal it what it is? ACCEPTABILITY WASNT WHAT I RESEARCHED, I RESEARCHED THE VERACITY OF THE STATMENT....IT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT 'A COMMITTEE' SO THAT IS (AT THE LEAST ) SPIN,,,LOL BUT one PERSON ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES POSSIBLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT AND POSSIBLY WAS A CHAIRMAN,,,,SO THATS PROBABLY TRUE 3. passed by a congress that hasnt read it.,,,,No clue, between the house and senate there are at least 535 people, I havent asked each of them whether they read it,, I havent even asked one of them honestly....but its available to read here,,,Well since you say you are clueless, here is a link that will, at the very least, get you started on becoming more aware of how congress operates when it comes to reading bills ttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24348.html YEP,, HASNT 'READ' IMPLIES PRESENT TENSE, THE ARTICLE IS FROM 2009. I STAND BY MY ADMISSION THAT I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY ASKED ALL OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED SOME PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE READ THE BILL THAT HAS NOW BEEN PUBLICLY POSTED FOR OVER A YEAR. 4.congress exempt? ...not exactly,,,,they actually have LESS options than we do as they will only be able to purchase from an exchange, losing their own current government plan and not able to choose to buy private to avoid the exchange from section 1312 of the AFfordable Care Act “the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and Congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.” Members of Congress and their staffs can only purchase health insurance coverage from the health insurance exchanges that are made available for uninsured Americans. The full text of this provision is available on pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act which you can read here. Members of Congress are covered by private insurance under the same system that covers all federal workers.That chit in section 1312 only applies if they want to shop it and buy their own...How likely is that? THAT SECTION SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BE COVERED ON THE EXCHANGE. READ AGAIN. 5.signed by a president who smokes? nope, the President QUIT smoking a while back Prove it PROVE HE DIDNT. SHOW ME A RECENT PHOTO WITH A CIGARETTE IN HIS HAND. OTHERWISE, PROVE THAT HE DIDNT SET A PRETTY EXCELLENT EXAMPLE BY DOING SOMETHING TO BE HEALTHIER... 6. with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes?,,,,,,yes and no,,, he hadnt paid the RIGHT tax amounts from 2001-2004, he has since paid those taxes plus penalties,,, So he gets a free pass because he doesn't know how to file a tax return? THERE WAS NO FREE PASS. HE PAID THE TAX, PLUS THE INTEREST, PLUS THE PENALTIES. 7. to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ? lol yes, it is,,, like our taxes are overseen by many who dont have to pay a dime or our wars by those who havent been in the military,,,, yes,, sometimes the book knowledge and circle of counsel counts in lieu of the personal background,,,,Sometimes personal background should count, this is one of those times...lol OPINION. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO ONE. 8. financed by a country that's broke? that totally depends upon whom you ask plenty of sources claim we are and others state we are not No, it depends on the math and the math says we're broke THE MATH SAYS WE HAVE DEBTS, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE 'BROKE'. ASK DONALD TRUMP. You ask him, I don't need too.... I know, in these threads noone needs to ASK anything,, assuming is perfectly acceptable with no credible evidence to accompany at all.... Why furnish credible evidence? It's always replied with spin anyway. I have a secret I want to share,,,, in a thread of 'opinions', MOST of what is posted has a 'spin' on it used to support that personal opinion,,,,, but that does not imply that most of what is posted is therefore LIES<,,, See.
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