Topic: Clinton A good lawyer defending a guilty client
msharmony's photo
Thu 09/06/12 04:13 PM






when is 16.6T (todays debt)

TRIPLE

10.6T (the debt when Obama took office)?


whats not obvious is what talking point the other side has BESIDES The debt (which they always ignore began increasing because of an economic COLLAPSE That had already begun)


Clinton did an EXCELLENT Job of explaining just HOW things have improved, (I think he called it putting a floor under what was collapsing)

He did an excellent job of actually EXPLAINING the misleading talking points the Republicans used in their convention too

but the other side sticks to their tunnelvision and pushing the issue of the debt as if its a solely barack obama created number

or the ONLY issue that matters,,,,


S Korea , Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran,, all have much better DEBT Situation than us,,, if that is really the MOST important issue, why doesnt everyone move to those places?


The quote was about the RATE debt was occurring, not the total amount. Obama is incurring debt at a faster rate than ever in history.



yes, this is a unique time in history

2008 was a unique year,,,,,


True, but '09, '10, '11, & '12 were even uniquer (great word ininit:tongue: )

Hi Joewaving



that happens

when something hasnt happened before, like the black plague lets say

the efforts to CORRECT that something probably havent happened before either,,,lol


If you are trying to say I am a racist or if your are trying to spin my post into racial slurs you are wrong on both counts....I take great offense to what you are IMPLYING here Harmony...



ur joking right?


parttime_vikingfan's photo
Thu 09/06/12 04:34 PM
I was listening to Minnesota Public Radio today and they had someone from "Fact Check" on there and he said that Clinton did very little spin and that almost every quote was accurate. They went thru several quotes literally.

Clinton hit a home run last nite without performance enhancing anything! Straight forward and to the point, and I found it quite refreshing. I am proud to call myself a democrat and "inclusion, and compromise" are two of my favorite words.

msharmony's reference to the black plague had nothing to do with "Black", but was merely a reference to a once ever event and was a very appropriate metaphore. I was actually startled at your take on her comparison as being racist.

no photo
Thu 09/06/12 05:12 PM

I was listening to Minnesota Public Radio today and they had someone from "Fact Check" on there and he said that Clinton did very little spin and that almost every quote was accurate. They went thru several quotes literally.

Clinton hit a home run last nite without performance enhancing anything! Straight forward and to the point, and I found it quite refreshing. I am proud to call myself a democrat and "inclusion, and compromise" are two of my favorite words.

msharmony's reference to the black plague had nothing to do with "Black", but was merely a reference to a once ever event and was a very appropriate metaphore. I was actually startled at your take on her comparison as being racist.



Minnesota Peoples RePublic Radio? Stop drinking the kool-aid.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 09/07/12 01:12 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 09/07/12 01:26 AM


ill


Is it just me or in that picture does Clinton's nose look like a penis tip\head? surprised

Lpdon's photo
Fri 09/07/12 01:13 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 09/07/12 01:14 AM

my favorite spontaneous reaction




Another person bows to King Ding-A-Ling.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 09/07/12 01:25 AM

my favorite spontaneous reaction




Kinda reminds me of the Star Wars movies when the evil Darth Vader bow's the the evil Emperor.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/07/12 07:52 AM


my favorite spontaneous reaction




Kinda reminds me of the Star Wars movies when the evil Darth Vader bow's the the evil Emperor.



reminds me of two older men sharing a laugh

but perception is pretty subjective,, especially with pictures

no photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:04 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Fri 09/07/12 09:05 AM



ill


Is it just me or in that picture does Clinton's nose look like a penis tip\head? surprised


noway Wait !!........Maybehuh

Chazster's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:17 AM

when is 16.6T (todays debt)

TRIPLE

10.6T (the debt when Obama took office)?


whats not obvious is what talking point the other side has BESIDES The debt (which they always ignore began increasing because of an economic COLLAPSE That had already begun)


Clinton did an EXCELLENT Job of explaining just HOW things have improved, (I think he called it putting a floor under what was collapsing)

He did an excellent job of actually EXPLAINING the misleading talking points the Republicans used in their convention too

but the other side sticks to their tunnelvision and pushing the issue of the debt as if its a solely barack obama created number

or the ONLY issue that matters,,,,


S Korea , Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran,, all have much better DEBT Situation than us,,, if that is really the MOST important issue, why doesnt everyone move to those places?


How many people do you know that speak Korean or Saudi? You can't just say I am living here. It's hard to get a visa. Let's let the people which actually pay for taxes complain about how our money is being spent out of control.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:19 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/07/12 09:22 AM


when is 16.6T (todays debt)

TRIPLE

10.6T (the debt when Obama took office)?


whats not obvious is what talking point the other side has BESIDES The debt (which they always ignore began increasing because of an economic COLLAPSE That had already begun)


Clinton did an EXCELLENT Job of explaining just HOW things have improved, (I think he called it putting a floor under what was collapsing)

He did an excellent job of actually EXPLAINING the misleading talking points the Republicans used in their convention too

but the other side sticks to their tunnelvision and pushing the issue of the debt as if its a solely barack obama created number

or the ONLY issue that matters,,,,


S Korea , Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran,, all have much better DEBT Situation than us,,, if that is really the MOST important issue, why doesnt everyone move to those places?


How many people do you know that speak Korean or Saudi? You can't just say I am living here. It's hard to get a visa. Let's let the people which actually pay for taxes complain about how our money is being spent out of control.



HUH? who cares who speaks Korean or Saudi. The point was whether the FINANCIAL DEBT Defines the greatness of a country or not

those whose main gripe about America is our DEBT, should go somewhere where there is little to no debt and see how much 'greater' it is ,,,,,

the bottom line in our home is not just FINANCES but also the PEOPLE in the home

a great country has to balance FINANCES and how it treats its people

some seem to be of the opinion that all that counts is the finance and they seem to prefer sacrificing human beings quality of life for a better bottom line financially,,,,,


its like me getting into debt as the main breadwinner and then letting everyone else starve and fend for themself so I can continue to get what I deserve for my 'contribution' and meanwhile our debts can get paid down with my earnings too

its great if ALL there is to consider is the dollar bill, but when you try to consider HUMAN BEINGS ,, it doesnt work

no photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:21 AM


when is 16.6T (todays debt)

TRIPLE

10.6T (the debt when Obama took office)?


whats not obvious is what talking point the other side has BESIDES The debt (which they always ignore began increasing because of an economic COLLAPSE That had already begun)


Clinton did an EXCELLENT Job of explaining just HOW things have improved, (I think he called it putting a floor under what was collapsing)

He did an excellent job of actually EXPLAINING the misleading talking points the Republicans used in their convention too

but the other side sticks to their tunnelvision and pushing the issue of the debt as if its a solely barack obama created number

or the ONLY issue that matters,,,,


S Korea , Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran,, all have much better DEBT Situation than us,,, if that is really the MOST important issue, why doesnt everyone move to those places?


How many people do you know that speak Korean or Saudi? You can't just say I am living here. It's hard to get a visa. Let's let the people which actually pay for taxes complain about how our money is being spent out of control.


:thumbsup:

Chazster's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:22 AM







when is 16.6T (todays debt)

TRIPLE

10.6T (the debt when Obama took office)?


whats not obvious is what talking point the other side has BESIDES The debt (which they always ignore began increasing because of an economic COLLAPSE That had already begun)


Clinton did an EXCELLENT Job of explaining just HOW things have improved, (I think he called it putting a floor under what was collapsing)

He did an excellent job of actually EXPLAINING the misleading talking points the Republicans used in their convention too

but the other side sticks to their tunnelvision and pushing the issue of the debt as if its a solely barack obama created number

or the ONLY issue that matters,,,,


S Korea , Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran,, all have much better DEBT Situation than us,,, if that is really the MOST important issue, why doesnt everyone move to those places?


The quote was about the RATE debt was occurring, not the total amount. Obama is incurring debt at a faster rate than ever in history.



yes, this is a unique time in history

2008 was a unique year,,,,,


True, but '09, '10, '11, & '12 were even uniquer (great word ininit:tongue: )

Hi Joewaving



that happens

when something hasnt happened before, like the black plague lets say

the efforts to CORRECT that something probably havent happened before either,,,lol


If you are trying to say I am a racist or if your are trying to spin my post into racial slurs you are wrong on both counts....I take great offense to what you are IMPLYING here Harmony...



ur joking right?




I understand what harmony is saying. When a new bad event happens such as electing a spendaholic president you use a unique solution,elect a Mormon president,to try to correct the problem. XP

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:30 AM
or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough

no photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:32 AM

or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough


Do you REALLY believe that was the root cause of the CURRENT recession?noway

Chazster's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:46 AM


or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough


Do you REALLY believe that was the root cause of the CURRENT recession?noway


The recession started when the dem's took control of Congress which handles the budget. Look it up.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:50 AM


or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough


Do you REALLY believe that was the root cause of the CURRENT recession?noway



I believe it happend on their watch,,,that THEIR watch was therefore very ineffective four years ago and probably wouldnt change much today

no photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:51 AM



or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough


Do you REALLY believe that was the root cause of the CURRENT recession?noway


The recession started when the dem's took control of Congress which handles the budget. Look it up.


You are directing this advice to MsHarmony I presume...laugh

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/07/12 09:59 AM



or

when increased spending and revenue cuts implemented by Republicans causes an economic collapse

its best not to put the economy BACK into their hands because its not recovering fast enough


Do you REALLY believe that was the root cause of the CURRENT recession?noway


The recession started when the dem's took control of Congress which handles the budget. Look it up.



from what I read the 'recession' began in 2007

much like we can pinpoint when we started to see symptoms of a 'cold',,,,there was the previous condition that made fertile ground for us to CATCH the cold


but back to your claim, lets see,,,


seems that for TWO sessions 110 and 111 the dems had control,, that was from 2007-2011

AFTER the recession had BEGUN

when we lead UP to a recession, the congress had been under Republican control since going back to 1995


so, yes, republican control LEAD US TO the recession,,,,



no photo
Fri 09/07/12 11:21 AM




ill


Is it just me or in that picture does Clinton's nose look like a penis tip\head? surprised


noway Wait !!........Maybehuh


I thought that I was the only one to notice that. laugh

Chazster's photo
Fri 09/07/12 11:25 AM
Lol whatever. People praise Clinton era bit who was in control of the budget all that time? Republicans. Then dem's come in and star spending. As that happen unemployment starts to increase and really starts to go after the election. Spending skyrockets as does unemployment.