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Topic: Surrounded by Bad News, Hope for Obama?
alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Mon 10/15/12 06:14 PM
National and tracking polls show varying results, a USA Today/Gallup poll has Romney up in swing states thanks to women but the Obama campaign sees a problem, Romney is doing better with Latinos in Florida than he does with Latinos nationwide, and fewer voters think Obama will win Tuesday's debate. RELATED: Florida, Ohio, and Wisconsin Don't Like The Republican Medicare Plan Findings: Obama leads by three points in the ABC News/Washington Post poll, two in the Reuters/Ipsos poll, and by one in the Politico/George Washington University Battleground poll, but he's down by one in Rasmussen and two in Gallup. Pollster: ABC News/Washington Post with sampling, data collection and tabulation from Abt-SRBI, Reuters/Ipsos, The Tarrance Group and Lake Research Partners Politico/GWU, Rasmussen, Gallup Methodology: For ABC News/Washington Post: Landline and cell phone poll of 923 likely voters October 10 through 13 and a +/-3.5 percentage points margin of error. For Reuters/Ipsos: Online tracking poll. For Politico/GWU: Poll of 1,000 likely voters October 7 through 11 and a +/-3.1 percent margin of error. For Rasmussen: daily tracking For Gallup: daily tracking. Why it matters: Everything's still very close, but based on the results of some of these polls it looks as if the effects of Obama's poor debate performance is tapering off. Of the ABC News/Washington Post poll Nate Silver explains that the poll is "potential important" because "with it, the case is clearer that Mr. Obama has recovered from his post-debate lows, although he has almost assuredly not made up all the ground he lost." Patricia Zengerle at Reuters writes that Obama has "appeared to have stemmed the bleeding from his poor first debate." That said, tracking polls Rasmussen and Gallup have Obama down. Romney's one point lead is down a point from Rasmussen's tracking a day earlier, but Gallup's remains static. Caveat: Some more good news for Obama and some more bad news. A Reuters/Ipsos poll of early voters shows Obama leading among them by a sizable margin. Some bad news: there are numbers in both the ABC/Washington Post poll and the Politico/GWU poll that show signs of improvement for Romney. In the former, The Fix's Chris Cillizza points out "Romney enthusiasm soars," in the latter Politico's James Hohmann is getting his "his Sally Field moment: They like him. At least more than they used to." RELATED: Romney Looks Like a Leader in Three Swing States Findings: A USA Today/Gallup poll has Romney up by five points in 12 swing states among likely voters, tying the president 48 to 48 among women. Pollster: USA Today/Gallup Methodology: Poll of 869 likely voters October 5 through 11 in 12 swing states. Why it matters: The all-important female vote is now boosting Romney. Caveat: We aren't looking at each swing state individually here. Tufts University political scientist Richard Eichenberg tells USA Today: "Although swing states share many similarities, President Obama's support among women is holding up well in some of them and less well in others. For example, his support among women is largely unchanged since the first debate in Ohio and Wisconsin, but it is definitely down in Colorado, Virginia and Florida." Plus Nate Silver tweets: "Looking at breakouts of 'swing states' from national polls is just dumb when there are dozens of actual swing state polls out every week." Also, as Aaron Blake points out, the Politico poll shows a Romney lead by two points in ten states deemed competitive, and Obama leading by five in the ABC News/Washington Post poll in "the nine most important states." Finally, Obama's pollster Joel Benenson challenged the numbers in an "interested parties" memo, "In the past, Gallup’s justification for such outlying numbers is that they are providing a snapshot of voter attitudes during a particular time period, not predicting the outcome of the election" and adding: "But this implausible result among women appears to not even provide an accurate reflection on the electorate today, making its value questionable."

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/15/12 06:15 PM
polls are annoying most are showing tht the early voting is overwhelmingly favoring Obama others are showing things like the above ,,only time will tell

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Mon 10/15/12 06:16 PM
Looks like the debates are having a huge impact. But the race is still too close to call. Romney is closing fast.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/15/12 06:18 PM
Looks like the debates are having a huge impact. But the race is still too close to call. Romney is closing fast. it will be close,, I think there is a great divide between the struggling majority and the secure minority,,, and the struggling majority who wish to some day BE the secure minority by adopting their attitudes,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48914	Mon 10/15/12 06:21 PM
polls are annoying Polls are annoying when they don't favor the person you are cheering for.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/15/12 06:23 PM
polls are annoying Polls are annoying when they don't favor the person you are cheering for. no ,they are annoying, because like tabloid magazines they imply completely different things about the same people in the same time span there is not enough consistency to know what to believe,, THAT is why they are annoying to me anyhow,,,

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Mon 10/15/12 06:24 PM
I'm not sure but the polls have been wrong in the last elections.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/15/12 06:28 PM
My Giddyup Pole says Barry a loser.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Mon 10/15/12 06:33 PM
My Giddyup Pole says Barry a loser. I think that the debate showed that Romney is not satin as the media has portrait him. And maybe Obama is a liar.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/15/12 06:35 PM
My Giddyup Pole says Barry a loser. I think that the debate showed that Romney is not satin as the media has portrait him. And maybe Obama is a liar. Let the record show. IMO, both are MSM POS. I will vote for the white dude to. We know what Barry has done.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/15/12 06:36 PM
depends upon the spin the same aggressive, take charge, gonna talk by my rules approach Romney had was considered a WIN by some of the same that considered Bidens approach rude and disrespectful the debate showed people whatever they already wanted to see, the results that matter will be at the polls,,,,

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Mon 10/15/12 08:11 PM
The 2 Rep/Dem candidates are just the same, as are their policies and stances on the issues. At least O hasn't put us in the passing lane to destruction yet, using the boiling frog technique, but Bobme would put us on a jet sled towards the cliff! http://www.consequeries.com/California-voter-guide

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/15/12 08:27 PM Edited by Ras427 on Mon 10/15/12 09:11 PM
My Giddyup Pole says Barry a loser. I think that the debate showed that Romney is not satin as the media has portrait him. And maybe Obama is a liar. I think they both embellish, as for satin or satan, the media didnt "portrait" him, "portrayed" maybe, spell check people!! Im not sure whether you meant satan the devil, or satin the fabric.

cstring57 Joined Thu 05/24/12 Posts: 6	Mon 10/15/12 08:33 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN:

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/15/12 09:02 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN: I hear ya, ill stick with Obama, Romney I just dont trust. But I respect all voters, many say the same thing as you regarding Obama being un American, although I recognize that un American is merely code word for he is to darkskined.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/15/12 09:26 PM
polls are annoying Polls are annoying when they don't favor the person you are cheering for. either that or the fact that they are BS.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Mon 10/15/12 09:51 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN: I hear ya, ill stick with Obama, Romney I just dont trust. But I respect all voters, many say the same thing as you regarding Obama being un American, although I recognize that un American is merely code word for he is to darkskined. Lol totally untrue. You know I see Obama supporters bringing color into it more than nonsupporters. Obviously if you don't support Obama then you are racist. You can't disagree with his policies. Even a white person with his policies would very called a socialist and many people consider socialism unamerican. He doesn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge. Many consider that unamerican. It's not unrealistic to see Why people may think this even if you don't agree.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/15/12 10:00 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN: I hear ya, ill stick with Obama, Romney I just dont trust. But I respect all voters, many say the same thing as you regarding Obama being un American, although I recognize that un American is merely code word for he is to darkskined. Lol totally untrue. You know I see Obama supporters bringing color into it more than nonsupporters. Obviously if you don't support Obama then you are racist. You can't disagree with his policies. Even a white person with his policies would very called a socialist and many people consider socialism unamerican. He doesn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge. Many consider that unamerican. It's not unrealistic to see Why people may think this even if you don't agree. which white presidential candidate can you remember being called unamerican?

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/15/12 10:07 PM Edited by Ras427 on Mon 10/15/12 10:10 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN: I hear ya, ill stick with Obama, Romney I just dont trust. But I respect all voters, many say the same thing as you regarding Obama being un American, although I recognize that un American is merely code word for he is to darkskined. Lol totally untrue. You know I see Obama supporters bringing color into it more than nonsupporters. Obviously if you don't support Obama then you are racist. You can't disagree with his policies. Even a white person with his policies would very called a socialist and many people consider socialism unamerican. He doesn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge. Many consider that unamerican. It's not unrealistic to see Why people may think this even if you don't agree. [/qazuote] UNAMERICAN: socialist, a muslim, not born in America, questionable birth certificate, all bs, all code, for get that negrow out. I hear it everyday,

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Mon 10/15/12 10:24 PM
GOT TO GO WITH ROMNEY,OBAMA IS UN AMERICAN: I hear ya, ill stick with Obama, Romney I just dont trust. But I respect all voters, many say the same thing as you regarding Obama being un American, although I recognize that un American is merely code word for he is to darkskined. Lol totally untrue. You know I see Obama supporters bringing color into it more than nonsupporters. Obviously if you don't support Obama then you are racist. You can't disagree with his policies. Even a white person with his policies would very called a socialist and many people consider socialism unamerican. He doesn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge. Many consider that unamerican. It's not unrealistic to see Why people may think this even if you don't agree. Never has there been a president so socialist or Unamerican. They only understand racism. They think it works in any situation.