Topic: Just the facts, ma'am.
USmale47374's photo
Fri 11/02/12 01:28 PM
This is well worth reading, no matter who you support next week: http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20121102/US.Closing.Arguments.Fact.Check/

RoamingOrator's photo
Fri 11/02/12 03:27 PM
Sorry, this is American politics. Facts have no place here.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/02/12 04:57 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 11/02/12 05:01 PM
Yuppers.
Facts from left-leaning xfinity writers.

Talk ABOUT Faux News!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lI77cU3jsFs&list=PL3064B50F4F59971C

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 11/03/12 02:50 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 11/03/12 02:51 AM
http://obamaforwards.com/2012/01/07/NewBreadwinnerInTheFamily.aspx

New breadwinner in the family...
Check this out! Not a joke!

It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so. - Ronald Reagan

*The new breadwinner in the family...*

This is preposterous! An emergency room physician told me that a woman in her late 20's came to the ER today with her 8 th pregnancy

She told the first doctor she saw: "My Mama told me that *I am the breadwinner for the family.*

" He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money from the State for the family.
It goes like this:
The Grandma calls the Department of Child & Family Services, and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for all of her kids.

DCFS agrees, and tells her the children will need to go into foster care.
The Grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and receives a check for $1500 *per child *each month in Illinois .

Total yearly income:
$144,000 tax-free and nobody has to go to work!
In fact, they get more if there is no husband/father/man in the home!

*Not to mention free healthcare (Medicaid), plus a monthly card entitling
them to free groceries and a voucher for 250 free Obama phone minutes each
month. This does not include WIC and other welfare benefits...*

Indeed, Grandma was correct that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.
This is how the politicians spend our tax dollars. When this generous program was invented in the '60s, the Great Society architects forgot to
craft an end date... and now we are hopelessly overrun with people who vote only for those who will continue to keep them on the dole....
No wonder our country is broke! Worse, the Muslims have been paying attention, and by mandating that each Muslim family have eleven children,
they will soon replace the voting bloc above and can be running this country within 50 years.

Are we alarmed yet? Is anybody listening?

Sincerely,
Sebastian J. Ciancio, M.D. Urologist,
Danville Polyclinic, LTD
Is this a GREAT COUNTRY or what...?

Don't forget to pay your taxes!!
*There are a lot of breadwinners * *depending on you!*

wux's photo
Sat 11/03/12 10:14 AM
Edited by wux on Sat 11/03/12 10:17 AM

Sorry, this is American politics. Facts have no place here.

Canada used to be a bi-partizan nation in politics, too. Power went back-and-forth as a majority of seats were won, pendulum-like, between the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party. Yes, they were named even that, for simplicity's sake.

There was an election called, and the Conservative leader, who headed the majority ruling party before the election, Kim Campbell, said in a campaign speech, "the issues are too complex for the average voter."

The voters responded on election day. The Conservative party got five seats of the nearly three hundred. Kim herself lost her seat. (In the parliament. She was not decapitated in the lower back.) The Liberals won by a huge margin, the NDP, a communist-sorta party got a huge chunk, and for the first time some tiny little parties got enough votes so they got their fees to get on the candidates' list on the ticket reinbursed. (There is a law for that.)

To say that the facts do not have to do anything with politics may be the truest of statements, but you can't anger the voters with such obvious and banal, yet insulting truths.

jacktrades's photo
Sat 11/03/12 10:33 AM
In politics like in life the truth comes in many forms and opinons. I try to absorb them all and then make a choice based on what I consider reality to my situation.

wux's photo
Sat 11/03/12 10:42 AM
Edited by wux on Sat 11/03/12 10:44 AM
More on recent history of Canadian politics:

1. The Liberals ruled for a long time. Eventually they started to thieve, of the national funds; not directly, but the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian version of the Scotland Yard, or of the FBI, or of KGB or of GESTAPO) kept on being reported as investigating some or another cabinet minister of the Liberal government, and the newspapers were getting more and more full of thes articles.

At one point
2. The quasi-Communist party, the NDP got into power; not on the national level, but in a provincial level. That province had been always the strongest, the financially most sound, the industrial backbone of the nation. When the NDP (commies) were finally cleaned out of the house of parliament, after five long years of sitting there, raising taxes of the rich and squandering money to the poor (but not thieving, this is true) the province was on the brink of bankruptcy, it was among the poorest with the highest debts in the nation.

3. So the aforementioned, in my previous post, Conservative party regrouped. It renamed itself the Progressive Conservative party, it got itself a young and dedicated, yet strong and ethical leader. It got the power back from the Liberals, for the only reason that voters were getting fed up with their tax monies being stolen.

4. The media, the leftist media especially, like the government-funded but independently run national tv and radio broadcasting service, tried to eat away at the reputation of the Progressive Conservatives, who actually rechristened itself, in process of borning again, back to Conservative Party. The leftist media even uttered lies, many of them, to undermine the reputation of the Conservatives.

5. So much so that the Government closed its doors to all meetings which were not by law needed to be tabled in public and in front of the media.

6. This gave more power to the media to berate the Conservatives. The media always kept foretelling some national economic or political disaster because the country was being led by the Conservatives "Closed door meetings" was their first item on the berating agenda, and on the conspiracy theories.

7. The ill prophecies were also based on the fact that Canadian government must run on absolute power, by constitution, and the Conservatives at first did not always have majority of seats. So they united in power with the separatist party.

8. The media kept on screaming blue murder, and that holocaust (not Jewish) will arrive if and when the Conservatives gain full majority.

9. Due to the closed-door policy, and to the hard working, non-thieving crew of the new Conservative leader, the country slowly prospered.

10. People woke up to this. They voted them in in the next election in full power.

11. Then a miracle happened: the previously promised demise, doom, defeat and economic despair of the country, as so well and eloquently prophetized by the leftist liberal media, did not happen.

12. The country is now run better run than ever. We have a higher standard of living than any other country. The liberals feared that the rich will get a freeer hand to exploit the poor. Did not happen. The richer are getting richer, true, but the poor are getting richer, too. All very quietly, without fanfares or beating one's own chest in pride by the Conservative party.

13. Because of China and the mismanagement of US economy during G.W. Bush (the insurance crisis, the mortgage crisis, the war crisis, the two tower crisis, the international anger against the US crisis, the trade deficit crisis, the environmental crisis, that were started and brought to full conclusion under G.W. Bush), Canada is suffering financially, too. But while in other countries there is starvation, bitterness, loss of homes, personal wealth, by poor and rich alike, in Canada, the wealth of all increases, the money is improving in value, the national debt is being paid off nicely, the poor are larger in number coz there are not enough jobs, but the poor get more and more money in handouts, so they can sustain a life standard of sorts and they don't have to resort to robbing banks, selling drugs, or sending their daughters into prostitution, in order to have a sensible and tolerable life.

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One of the reasons Canada can do this is because we have a leader who is smart, full of integrity, moral, and runs a tight ship, inasmuch as does not let anyone in his government to steal or cheat.

The other big reason has to do with sheer luck. The luck is that we have oil. We have oodles and oodles of it in Alberta. This very good leader, of the Conservative party, has started his career in Alberta, which is an entire province, and therefore it was possible for him to spread the Albertan oil wealth over the nation, which the previous Liberal government kept trying to do for five decades, and always failed. This new good guy had no problem with it, and had no problem doing it and achieving this feat, even without giving kickback money, special favours, tax exemptions, etc. etc. He is not only a politician, a good politician, but a good diplomat as well, it seems.

RoamingOrator's photo
Sat 11/03/12 02:16 PM
Oh, that Canadian system of not stealing or cheating would never work in American politics. Graft and kick-backs are as American as apple pie. If we aren't picking the greater of two evils, we aren't happy.

laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/03/12 02:41 PM

If we aren't picking the greater of two evils, we aren't happy.

laugh


I thought that Americans picked the greater of two weasels.