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i was thinking that all gun stores sell trigger locks...
why not make it manditory to have a trigger lock on all firearms not in use by the owner at the moment... maybe punishment if your weapon was left unlocked and was used in the commision of a crime could be something like a 10 year revokation of the right to bare arms and a huge fine? its just a thought |
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i was thinking that all gun stores sell trigger locks... why not make it manditory to have a trigger lock on all firearms not in use by the owner at the moment... maybe punishment if your weapon was left unlocked and was used in the commision of a crime could be something like a 10 year revokation of the right to bare arms and a huge fine? its just a thought a good start, we have to be cautious about the limits though I always feared , for instance, making any crime committed with a gun into a life sentence would possibly erase the line others might have between stealing from someone and killing them,, if the punishment seems the same I mean |
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its just a band aid but enough of them will stop the bleeding
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The goal of gun control should be to keep the control of guns away from people who should not have it.
As one who advocates Peace on Earth, I believe the entire world should be a "gun free zone." While the goal may not seem all that realistic to some, There are nevertheless efforts under way already. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, so… https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-armed-guards-president-vice-president-and-their-families-and-establish-gun-free-zones/6RDGkxLK Maybe we should all join the effort to keep guns away from the people who have demonstrated by incompetence, immaturity and/or malevolence that they should not even have access to them under any circumstances. I once wrote a post somewhere about a coming global revolution where everyone around the world would scream as in a single thunderous voice, "ENOUGH!!"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IJhWVf4e4-s …and the world would suddenly stop, and be still and quiet such that a dropping pin could be heard for miles, as all the Earth awaited our next order. That order would never be forthcoming, as the Peace on Earth we now enjoyed was all we ever wanted, and the order was already being obeyed without ever having been uttered. The Peace Revolution starts here and now. Which side are you on? |
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Edited by
alleoops
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Tue 12/25/12 02:05 PM
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i was thinking that all gun stores sell trigger locks... why not make it manditory to have a trigger lock on all firearms not in use by the owner at the moment... maybe punishment if your weapon was left unlocked and was used in the commision of a crime could be something like a 10 year revokation of the right to bare arms and a huge fine? its just a thought I'm sure that a lot of criminals would like trigger locks for their guns. Better still, why not just sell blanks to the law abiding? |
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There is always going to be some knucklehead with a gun, a knife, or a bomb that wants to do harm to somebody else. Unfortunately there are also millions of guns in the world that those same people will have easy access to. It would take a hundred years to make normal people safe from knuckleheads with guns, especially when millions of other knuckleheads think that owning a gun makes them safe.
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There is always going to be some knucklehead with a gun, a knife, or a bomb that wants to do harm to somebody else. Unfortunately there are also millions of guns in the world that those same people will have easy access to. It would take a hundred years to make normal people safe from knuckleheads with guns, especially when millions of other knuckleheads think that owning a gun makes them safe. people will always 'break' laws,, exactly the laws arent there to stop a behavior, they are there to set the boundaries about what behavior will be tolerated/accepted and what behavior will have legal consequence (when caught) |
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the laws arent there to stop a behavior, they are there to set the boundaries about what behavior will be tolerated/accepted and what behavior will have legal consequence (when caught) Since owning property isn't a behaviour, you will agree that it is reasonable to own and hold whatever property one enjoys or feels is necessary to own, so long as that person causes no intentional or grossly negligent harm to others. You agree then that it is morally wrong to deny a reasonable man his right to own military grade arms. It stands to reason then, that any legislation prohibiting or curtailing that right is in itself a punishable crime. |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html
*THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job!  |
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the laws arent there to stop a behavior, they are there to set the boundaries about what behavior will be tolerated/accepted and what behavior will have legal consequence (when caught) Since owning property isn't a behaviour, you will agree that it is reasonable to own and hold whatever property one enjoys or feels is necessary to own, so long as that person causes no intentional or grossly negligent harm to others. You agree then that it is morally wrong to deny a reasonable man his right to own military grade arms. It stands to reason then, that any legislation prohibiting or curtailing that right is in itself a punishable crime. thats assuming alot alcohol has a use that is potentially harmful, not to just its drinker but to bystanders if the drinker decides to partake in certan behaviors so, there are law against selling alcohol to minors and laws against OVERSELLING in a bar to a patron that has become debillitated in their reaoning similarly, a gun has a use that is EXCLSIVELY Harmful(with the exception of 'target' practice) especially if the owner ever decides to use it around others indeed, ones rights ends where another begins,,, and one 'inalienable' right is the right to life if someones 'unreasonable' action imposes upon that, its a problem I would believe a weapon designed to be able to take out a militia should be used amongst TRAINED militia men and women, not paranoid, unreasonable, impulsive, or unstable citizens,,, items have uses, and 'reasonable' is whats at issue I dont know what 'reasonable' man would not be grossly negligent in the use of certain MASSLY destructive wwapons,,, |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Just what is your definition of "common sense regulation" |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. So,it would become necessary to eventually outlaw all Fingers? Stands to reason,doesn't it?
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Just what is your definition of "common sense regulation" well, we could look at the regulations in countries with less gun crime and homicide,,,, to start |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Yea, I guess your right. Common sense regulation is what we have now and seems to be working fine. Let's keep it like it is, except here in Texas, we may have open carry soon. |
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i was thinking that all gun stores sell trigger locks... why not make it manditory to have a trigger lock on all firearms not in use by the owner at the moment... maybe punishment if your weapon was left unlocked and was used in the commision of a crime could be something like a 10 year revokation of the right to bare arms and a huge fine? its just a thought Besides,what good is a disabled Firearm if needed for Selfdefense in an Emergency? and do you really think that a Gun with trigger-Lock can't be stolen and the Lock be removed? |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Yea, I guess your right. Common sense regulation is what we have now and seems to be working fine. Let's keep it like it is, except here in Texas, we may have open carry soon. I dont think its working 'fine' when we are doing so much terribly worse than any other 'developed' country when it comes to gun homicide,,,, |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Just what is your definition of "common sense regulation" |
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http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cgc-criminals-for-gun-control-t5293.html *THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE*™ Richard Davidson: It's not easy in my line of work, a lot of "job sights" I am scared to go to because of NRA stickers on the cars out side. It really can make life difficult for me, I have cocaine, hookers, and other things that I need to spend money on and now I can't even afford your basic beer on my tiny welfare check. I need more opportunities out there and as long as people can just go buy guns I'm just up **** creek in a lot of aspects of my life style. Barbara Witswerth: I don't like guns, People have no idea what it's like to lose sleep over worry of some guy with a Tea Party shirt and a Assault rifle crawling in my kids room at night through a window. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln was killed with a gun? That's all they do is serve as a tool to destroy lives. Another problem with them is they cause war, if guns didn't exist there would be no war and nothing left but peace and love, and that's why I don't allow them in my home! Joe "The R***st" Kenjerski: I keep hearing that more and more women are getting concealed weapon permits. Pepper spray is the lesser of the two evils in my opinion. But as long as these concealed weapons are allowed on the street, it makes my hobby very risky. I hear that in Canada hand guns are illegal period. I've been considering vacationing up there for eleven months of the year. Leroy Calvison: It's true, the more guns that are out there in the hands of people, the harder it is to make money for me. People can't comprehend what it's like going into a situation not knowing for sure if I can get out of it okay or not. I think it is completely stupid that I have to risk getting hurt on the job! How about, at birth, every babies trigger finger is cut off. They could call it circumtriggercision. That should fix it. cruel and unusual I think common sense regulation is more 'reasonable' Yea, I guess your right. Common sense regulation is what we have now and seems to be working fine. Let's keep it like it is, except here in Texas, we may have open carry soon. I dont think its working 'fine' when we are doing so much terribly worse than any other 'developed' country when it comes to gun homicide,,,, "so much terribly worse", simply your perception. I feel quite safe in my home with my loaded, stainless steel, Smith & Wesson 38 Special. Why would I want to move to another country? |
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