Topic: Liberals prefer Women be Unarmed and Raped
Conrad_73's photo
Wed 03/13/13 08:30 AM




I'm 5'2", around a 100Lbs, the Average Man could simply do whatever he wanted with me; my .38 is the only thing I have to make me an Equal to a Rapist, or anyother man that wishs to do me harm when I'm in Public.
I ALWAYS CARRY my Gun when I'm out; and not to leave anything to chance, with a Toy Gun (That looks like my .38 but for the Orange plastic) I practice with my Husband on what to do if the Unthinkable happens - Attacked from behind, grabbed from the side, different forms of assaults so that I would have a basic plan pre-programmed if I need it; and practice with my Husband tends to be Fun, Fun, Fun.
No one who trys to Disarm me is my Friend, though I'm forgiving of the Well Meaning Ignorent who had bought into lies; I'd rather have the Perp pee on himself when he's looking down the business end of my gun.


my mother is similarly petite, and has a gun < A GUN

Im not for banning guns, and Im not ANTI gun, I am for REGLUATING guns

do I want petite women such as yourself to not be able to defend themself with a gun,, NO

do I want mentally ill persons like james holmes to acquire an ARSENAL of weapons ,, NO


people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


And if you Regulate a Women to Not have a Gun, and she is Killed without the Means to Defend Herself; Then What?
Before we start to Pass New Laws, how about we Enforce the Laws that are Already on the Books; Criminals don't buy their Weapons by Legal Means.



who supports regulations that prevent women from having 'a gun'?

yes, we need to enforce the laws and allow them to evolve with the technology,,,


and people who dont do things legally , are therefore called 'criminals',, goes without saying that they dont follow the laws...
so,you gonna prevent Criminals from having Firearm by depriving lawabiding Citizens of their Rights?laugh

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:31 AM



people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


I don't think the issue is black and white, far from it...I know when it comes to common sense I am not lacking...

I am not yet convinced there is a middle ground when it comes to gun control...I am not yet convinced that stronger legislation is the answer to the problem as it has failed repeatedly....

What I am convinced of are my constitutional rights as a law abiding, tax paying citizen...So until it is proven that more and more gun control is the better way I am going to stick with the definition of a republic which is...

"A state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them."


democrats don't understand this, they believe that they are smarter than the public and should have to tell us how to live...

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 07:10 PM





I'm 5'2", around a 100Lbs, the Average Man could simply do whatever he wanted with me; my .38 is the only thing I have to make me an Equal to a Rapist, or anyother man that wishs to do me harm when I'm in Public.
I ALWAYS CARRY my Gun when I'm out; and not to leave anything to chance, with a Toy Gun (That looks like my .38 but for the Orange plastic) I practice with my Husband on what to do if the Unthinkable happens - Attacked from behind, grabbed from the side, different forms of assaults so that I would have a basic plan pre-programmed if I need it; and practice with my Husband tends to be Fun, Fun, Fun.
No one who trys to Disarm me is my Friend, though I'm forgiving of the Well Meaning Ignorent who had bought into lies; I'd rather have the Perp pee on himself when he's looking down the business end of my gun.


my mother is similarly petite, and has a gun < A GUN

Im not for banning guns, and Im not ANTI gun, I am for REGLUATING guns

do I want petite women such as yourself to not be able to defend themself with a gun,, NO

do I want mentally ill persons like james holmes to acquire an ARSENAL of weapons ,, NO


people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


And if you Regulate a Women to Not have a Gun, and she is Killed without the Means to Defend Herself; Then What?
Before we start to Pass New Laws, how about we Enforce the Laws that are Already on the Books; Criminals don't buy their Weapons by Legal Means.



who supports regulations that prevent women from having 'a gun'?

yes, we need to enforce the laws and allow them to evolve with the technology,,,


and people who dont do things legally , are therefore called 'criminals',, goes without saying that they dont follow the laws...
so,you gonna prevent Criminals from having Firearm by depriving lawabiding Citizens of their Rights?laugh



nope, Im gonna support preventing UNSTABLE citizens and untrained citizens from acquiring arsenals they can later have conveniently around if they should have a mental breakdown or outburst,,,,

no photo
Wed 03/13/13 08:17 PM






I'm 5'2", around a 100Lbs, the Average Man could simply do whatever he wanted with me; my .38 is the only thing I have to make me an Equal to a Rapist, or anyother man that wishs to do me harm when I'm in Public.
I ALWAYS CARRY my Gun when I'm out; and not to leave anything to chance, with a Toy Gun (That looks like my .38 but for the Orange plastic) I practice with my Husband on what to do if the Unthinkable happens - Attacked from behind, grabbed from the side, different forms of assaults so that I would have a basic plan pre-programmed if I need it; and practice with my Husband tends to be Fun, Fun, Fun.
No one who trys to Disarm me is my Friend, though I'm forgiving of the Well Meaning Ignorent who had bought into lies; I'd rather have the Perp pee on himself when he's looking down the business end of my gun.


my mother is similarly petite, and has a gun < A GUN

Im not for banning guns, and Im not ANTI gun, I am for REGLUATING guns

do I want petite women such as yourself to not be able to defend themself with a gun,, NO

do I want mentally ill persons like james holmes to acquire an ARSENAL of weapons ,, NO


people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


And if you Regulate a Women to Not have a Gun, and she is Killed without the Means to Defend Herself; Then What?
Before we start to Pass New Laws, how about we Enforce the Laws that are Already on the Books; Criminals don't buy their Weapons by Legal Means.



who supports regulations that prevent women from having 'a gun'?

yes, we need to enforce the laws and allow them to evolve with the technology,,,


and people who dont do things legally , are therefore called 'criminals',, goes without saying that they dont follow the laws...
so,you gonna prevent Criminals from having Firearm by depriving lawabiding Citizens of their Rights?laugh



nope, Im gonna support preventing UNSTABLE citizens and untrained citizens from acquiring arsenals they can later have conveniently around if they should have a mental breakdown or outburst,,,,




That is a dumb idea.


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Wed 03/13/13 08:23 PM
No one can know who is or is not "stable or unstable" or should or should not be "allowed" to have a weapon.

If you put that power into the hands of shrinks or counselors, then people who might need counseling will be afraid to even have an appointment for any reason.

Forced mental evaluations will become the norm where people are abducted (arrested?) and forced to undergo a mental evaluation. A person's right to bear arms can easily be infringed on the word of some doctor.

Also, the true psychopaths can fool any shrink.


msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 08:28 PM

No one can know who is or is not "stable or unstable" or should or should not be "allowed" to have a weapon.

If you put that power into the hands of shrinks or counselors, then people who might need counseling will be afraid to even have an appointment for any reason.

Forced mental evaluations will become the norm where people are abducted (arrested?) and forced to undergo a mental evaluation. A person's right to bear arms can easily be infringed on the word of some doctor.

Also, the true psychopaths can fool any shrink.




there is no need for forced mental evaluations, plenty of people have doctors, and those who commit crimes can undergo mandatory evaulation as a condition of bail or probation,,,

it wont stop everyone, but it will stop those who are suffering trauma that has caused mental breaks , and are already under counseling

along with registering, it will be valuable in revoking permits (like we do licenses with drunk drivers) from those who exhibit illegal and violent behaviors,,

etc

its not dumb at all, its a precaution,,, its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen,,,

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Wed 03/13/13 08:43 PM


No one can know who is or is not "stable or unstable" or should or should not be "allowed" to have a weapon.

If you put that power into the hands of shrinks or counselors, then people who might need counseling will be afraid to even have an appointment for any reason.

Forced mental evaluations will become the norm where people are abducted (arrested?) and forced to undergo a mental evaluation. A person's right to bear arms can easily be infringed on the word of some doctor.

Also, the true psychopaths can fool any shrink.




there is no need for forced mental evaluations, plenty of people have doctors, and those who commit crimes can undergo mandatory evaulation as a condition of bail or probation,,,

it wont stop everyone, but it will stop those who are suffering trauma that has caused mental breaks , and are already under counseling

along with registering, it will be valuable in revoking permits (like we do licenses with drunk drivers) from those who exhibit illegal and violent behaviors,,

etc

its not dumb at all, its a precaution,,, its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen,,,



Let me remind you of the guy who posted something on facebook that got him picked up and forced into a mental evaluation.

He had not committed any crime at all.

and yet... they went to his home and abducted him and put him into observation.

The Patriot act does not respect the rights of citizens.


no photo
Wed 03/13/13 08:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/13/13 08:49 PM
its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen.



Why do people think they can solve every problem with more legislation and more laws that take away our rights?

We are not experiencing more deaths because of guns. These incidents are just getting more press.

Far more people die on the highway in cars than of guns from some crazy person. These incidents just make good news and sell more papers.

Car accidents happen all the time. They barely make the local news.

Nobody knows who is or is not stable enough to have a gun. Laws trying to figure that out will only infringe on people's rights.

These over paid politicians are just trying to justify their jobs.

We have a right to bear arms. Period. No legislation can take away our rights legally without being guilty of TREASON.




msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:00 PM



No one can know who is or is not "stable or unstable" or should or should not be "allowed" to have a weapon.

If you put that power into the hands of shrinks or counselors, then people who might need counseling will be afraid to even have an appointment for any reason.

Forced mental evaluations will become the norm where people are abducted (arrested?) and forced to undergo a mental evaluation. A person's right to bear arms can easily be infringed on the word of some doctor.

Also, the true psychopaths can fool any shrink.




there is no need for forced mental evaluations, plenty of people have doctors, and those who commit crimes can undergo mandatory evaulation as a condition of bail or probation,,,

it wont stop everyone, but it will stop those who are suffering trauma that has caused mental breaks , and are already under counseling

along with registering, it will be valuable in revoking permits (like we do licenses with drunk drivers) from those who exhibit illegal and violent behaviors,,

etc

its not dumb at all, its a precaution,,, its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen,,,



Let me remind you of the guy who posted something on facebook that got him picked up and forced into a mental evaluation.

He had not committed any crime at all.

and yet... they went to his home and abducted him and put him into observation.

The Patriot act does not respect the rights of citizens.





yes, these things will happen,, doing nothing will not change that,,,,

people have been forced into commitment at the word of a neighbor or a family member for less,, thats how it works

they decide they are no threat, and thats the end of it,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:02 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 03/13/13 09:03 PM

its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen.



Why do people think they can solve every problem with more legislation and more laws that take away our rights?

We are not experiencing more deaths because of guns. These incidents are just getting more press.

Far more people die on the highway in cars than of guns from some crazy person. These incidents just make good news and sell more papers.

Car accidents happen all the time. They barely make the local news.

Nobody knows who is or is not stable enough to have a gun. Laws trying to figure that out will only infringe on people's rights.

These over paid politicians are just trying to justify their jobs.

We have a right to bear arms. Period. No legislation can take away our rights legally without being guilty of TREASON.







there are professionals who study mental health and can absolutely observe whether someone is a harm to themself or others,,,,

we have the right to a well 'REGULATED' militia in which militia members can bare arms,,,,

militia are trained and , believed to be sane,,,,

I can only shoot one gun at a time,, why on earth would I require the 'right' to own an arsenal,,,,?

owning a gun for protection or guns for hunting are one thing,, owning an arsenal is a different extreme

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Wed 03/13/13 09:12 PM


its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen.



Why do people think they can solve every problem with more legislation and more laws that take away our rights?

We are not experiencing more deaths because of guns. These incidents are just getting more press.

Far more people die on the highway in cars than of guns from some crazy person. These incidents just make good news and sell more papers.

Car accidents happen all the time. They barely make the local news.

Nobody knows who is or is not stable enough to have a gun. Laws trying to figure that out will only infringe on people's rights.

These over paid politicians are just trying to justify their jobs.

We have a right to bear arms. Period. No legislation can take away our rights legally without being guilty of TREASON.







there are professionals who study mental health and can absolutely observe whether someone is a harm to themself or others,,,,

we have the right to a well 'REGULATED' militia in which militia members can bare arms,,,,

militia are trained and , believed to be sane,,,,

I can only shoot one gun at a time,, why on earth would I require the 'right' to own an arsenal,,,,?

owning a gun for protection or guns for hunting are one thing,, owning an arsenal is a different extreme


No its not "extreme." The original reason for the right to bear arms was to keep this country FREE OF TYRANNY.

It was not to go hunting, or to protect yourself from some robber.

And YOU will let the tyrannical government chip away at the people's right to bear arms which are to protect the freedom of the State and the Country.

Most civil wars in third world countries are fought against tyrannical governments and dictators. If the government manages to disarm the population first, then they can rule as dictators without fear of being apposed.

Like Hitler, and other countries who then rounded up all opposition and simply killed them.


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Wed 03/13/13 09:17 PM
there are professionals who study mental health and can absolutely observe whether someone is a harm to themself or others,,,,



Oh yeh right, and you think they are not above reproach and can be trusted under the thumb of a tyrannical government? Do you really think you could trust a mental health professional working under the regime of Hitler to decide if you were stable or not? Especially if you were suspected of being a threat to the government?

And even if that is not the case, do you really want to trust a "mental health professional" to decide what you may or may not do or if he thinks you are stable or unstable enough to have a gun?

I don't think I want to hand my power and my rights over to anyone like that. I don't have that much faith in the system.


msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:18 PM



its dumb to do nothing except grieve after preventable deaths happen.



Why do people think they can solve every problem with more legislation and more laws that take away our rights?

We are not experiencing more deaths because of guns. These incidents are just getting more press.

Far more people die on the highway in cars than of guns from some crazy person. These incidents just make good news and sell more papers.

Car accidents happen all the time. They barely make the local news.

Nobody knows who is or is not stable enough to have a gun. Laws trying to figure that out will only infringe on people's rights.

These over paid politicians are just trying to justify their jobs.

We have a right to bear arms. Period. No legislation can take away our rights legally without being guilty of TREASON.







there are professionals who study mental health and can absolutely observe whether someone is a harm to themself or others,,,,

we have the right to a well 'REGULATED' militia in which militia members can bare arms,,,,

militia are trained and , believed to be sane,,,,

I can only shoot one gun at a time,, why on earth would I require the 'right' to own an arsenal,,,,?

owning a gun for protection or guns for hunting are one thing,, owning an arsenal is a different extreme


No its not "extreme." The original reason for the right to bear arms was to keep this country FREE OF TYRANNY.

It was not to go hunting, or to protect yourself from some robber.

And YOU will let the tyrannical government chip away at the people's right to bear arms which are to protect the freedom of the State and the Country.

Most civil wars in third world countries are fought against tyrannical governments and dictators. If the government manages to disarm the population first, then they can rule as dictators without fear of being apposed.

Like Hitler, and other countries who then rounded up all opposition and simply killed them.




there is no unilateral agreement, even amongst eduators and professors of what the 'reason' for the right to bear arms was

having access does not and should never be a limitless equation with ANYTHING

too much of even water can be deadly, and too much 'freedom' to wield life ending tools is also deadly, and not needed

they had a 'reason' to have slaves too, and Im glad people saw the senseless ness of such an extreme , IM sure they will see the same with the advent of technology , mental illness, and population growth, and multiculturalism,,,,,,regarding the extreme of letting everyone walk around with arsenals of whatever 'arms' they feel desirous of,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:20 PM

there are professionals who study mental health and can absolutely observe whether someone is a harm to themself or others,,,,



Oh yeh right, and you think they are not above reproach and can be trusted under the thumb of a tyrannical government? Do you really think you could trust a mental health professional working under the regime of Hitler to decide if you were stable or not? Especially if you were suspected of being a threat to the government?

And even if that is not the case, do you really want to trust a "mental health professional" to decide what you may or may not do or if he thinks you are stable or unstable enough to have a gun?

I don't think I want to hand my power and my rights over to anyone like that. I don't have that much faith in the system.




and I dont have total faith in everyone, but more in professionals and the educated in MOST situations than in the average joe / jane educating themself through resources with little to no credibility or validity....



heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:37 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 03/13/13 09:39 PM






I'm 5'2", around a 100Lbs, the Average Man could simply do whatever he wanted with me; my .38 is the only thing I have to make me an Equal to a Rapist, or anyother man that wishs to do me harm when I'm in Public.
I ALWAYS CARRY my Gun when I'm out; and not to leave anything to chance, with a Toy Gun (That looks like my .38 but for the Orange plastic) I practice with my Husband on what to do if the Unthinkable happens - Attacked from behind, grabbed from the side, different forms of assaults so that I would have a basic plan pre-programmed if I need it; and practice with my Husband tends to be Fun, Fun, Fun.
No one who trys to Disarm me is my Friend, though I'm forgiving of the Well Meaning Ignorent who had bought into lies; I'd rather have the Perp pee on himself when he's looking down the business end of my gun.


my mother is similarly petite, and has a gun < A GUN

Im not for banning guns, and Im not ANTI gun, I am for REGLUATING guns

do I want petite women such as yourself to not be able to defend themself with a gun,, NO

do I want mentally ill persons like james holmes to acquire an ARSENAL of weapons ,, NO


people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


And if you Regulate a Women to Not have a Gun, and she is Killed without the Means to Defend Herself; Then What?
Before we start to Pass New Laws, how about we Enforce the Laws that are Already on the Books; Criminals don't buy their Weapons by Legal Means.



who supports regulations that prevent women from having 'a gun'?

yes, we need to enforce the laws and allow them to evolve with the technology,,,


and people who dont do things legally , are therefore called 'criminals',, goes without saying that they dont follow the laws...
so,you gonna prevent Criminals from having Firearm by depriving lawabiding Citizens of their Rights?laugh



nope, Im gonna support preventing UNSTABLE citizens and untrained citizens from acquiring arsenals they can later have conveniently around if they should have a mental breakdown or outburst,,,,

"Unstable" citizens? You realize that would require disarming nearly every cop? And what about cars? Unstable people klll other people with cars far more often than guns. In fact, you could virtually eliminate murder and manslaughter by banning cars.

And who gets to determine whom is "unstable"? Dr Thomas Szaz has done voluminous research to prove that there is no such thing as "mental illness" as the psychiatrists would have you believe.

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Wed 03/13/13 09:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/13/13 09:41 PM
Road rage is real.

People behind the wheel of a car can become more unstable than anyone with a gun. And a car can kill.

So why not do background checks and mental evaluations for anyone getting a licence to drive?

oh and drug tests too!! Make them all get regular drug tests.

Keep these pimple faced brats on meth off the roads.!! rant rant

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:41 PM







I'm 5'2", around a 100Lbs, the Average Man could simply do whatever he wanted with me; my .38 is the only thing I have to make me an Equal to a Rapist, or anyother man that wishs to do me harm when I'm in Public.
I ALWAYS CARRY my Gun when I'm out; and not to leave anything to chance, with a Toy Gun (That looks like my .38 but for the Orange plastic) I practice with my Husband on what to do if the Unthinkable happens - Attacked from behind, grabbed from the side, different forms of assaults so that I would have a basic plan pre-programmed if I need it; and practice with my Husband tends to be Fun, Fun, Fun.
No one who trys to Disarm me is my Friend, though I'm forgiving of the Well Meaning Ignorent who had bought into lies; I'd rather have the Perp pee on himself when he's looking down the business end of my gun.


my mother is similarly petite, and has a gun < A GUN

Im not for banning guns, and Im not ANTI gun, I am for REGLUATING guns

do I want petite women such as yourself to not be able to defend themself with a gun,, NO

do I want mentally ill persons like james holmes to acquire an ARSENAL of weapons ,, NO


people pretend like the issue is simple and black and white(not you specifically), but there IS common sense middle ground between the two extremes of gun banning and complete freedom of weapon ownership,,,,,


And if you Regulate a Women to Not have a Gun, and she is Killed without the Means to Defend Herself; Then What?
Before we start to Pass New Laws, how about we Enforce the Laws that are Already on the Books; Criminals don't buy their Weapons by Legal Means.



who supports regulations that prevent women from having 'a gun'?

yes, we need to enforce the laws and allow them to evolve with the technology,,,


and people who dont do things legally , are therefore called 'criminals',, goes without saying that they dont follow the laws...
so,you gonna prevent Criminals from having Firearm by depriving lawabiding Citizens of their Rights?laugh



nope, Im gonna support preventing UNSTABLE citizens and untrained citizens from acquiring arsenals they can later have conveniently around if they should have a mental breakdown or outburst,,,,

"Unstable" citizens? You realize that would require disarming nearly every cop? And what about cars? Unstable people klll other people with cars far more often than guns. In fact, you could virtually eliminate murder and manslaughter by banning cars.



cars are designed to TRANSPORT people, they have a use that is not to take or harm life

weapons are created for the purpose of HARMING AND TAKING LIFE,,,,

and we do disallow the visually disabled from driving, or those who have a history of alcoholism,,,so we have policies in place to consider the CIRCUMSTANCES of the person using the tool before we decide if they can or cant

you couldnt eliminate murder or mansslaughter because people can use a multitude of actual 'tools' ( products manufactured for the repair or assemtly/disassembly of other products) as weapons instead

but elimination is not the realistic goal, reducing is,,,,,,

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Wed 03/13/13 09:51 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/13/13 09:52 PM
Well msharmoney, since murder can be done with any weapon, then I guess people are the real problem. We could just give everyone a lobotomy who ever shows any signs of being violent or disorderly or even disagreeable.

Then all the zombies would be safe.bigsmile


msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:53 PM

Road rage is real.

People behind the wheel of a car can become more unstable than anyone with a gun. And a car can kill.

So why not do background checks and mental evaluations for anyone getting a licence to drive?

oh and drug tests too!! Make them all get regular drug tests.

Keep these pimple faced brats on meth off the roads.!! rant rant


a car can kill, but it is not DESIGNED for harm or killing it is designed for transportation and I would gather MOST people wouldnt ruin t heir means of transportation because of rage, MOST will choose actual weapons or tools that provide more hands on contact,, like guns, knives, bats, etc,,,,


msharmony's photo
Wed 03/13/13 09:54 PM

Well msharmoney, since murder can be done with any weapon, then I guess people are the real problem. We could just give everyone a lobotomy who ever shows any signs of being violent or disorderly or even disagreeable.

Then all the zombies would be safe.bigsmile




as I said, going to extremes is no more helpful than looking the other way and doing nothing,,,,

but the culture is the problem, I agree, we dneed to educate people more about the value of ALL life, not just the lives of those who have certain things or look or behave certain ways,,,,