http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5QTR6SXVxw


The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

tell it to Barry and his Drones!




the underpinning of all those Rights enumerated in the Constitution is the 2nd Amendment,and incidentally that's why it is so fiercely attacked by the Statists!

correction, tell this to the guy that signed into law the patriot act!

or to the Guy who promised to repeal it,then found out it was exactly what he needed,so added plenty of Bite to it!

They won't be happy till we have dictatorship...

correct. we lose again.
meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Is he an X Nazi?

Maggots feeding on the Carcass of a once great Nation!

The government does not want to uphold the law even though they have sworn to. One party passes rules to give themselves more power and when another party is in charge and uses those new powers, they fuss. Both sides are guilty. Our police are more like a military army and raid places even if there is no proof of the people being violent. More laws are being passed, making more people criminals.

Not everyone that has broken the law an evil person that needs to be in jail for a long time. Some are people in need of help and will be repeat offenders until they receive help to make them a better person.

you are on the right track...however, due to the government, being "of the people, by the people and for the people," I feel it is all of society to blame for current events...we run the government, but that has been long forgotten by most everyone.
with each generation their is clear evidence, of gradual "conditioning" of the minds of children to believe everything they hear in school and on the news.
Society as a whole, is being sucked into mindless whirlwind of gadgets and gizmos and sports to occupy and divert attention from the fact that we are being used as pawns by our government.
Thanks to so many people putting on the blinders of obliviousness, those of us who want to stand up are currently overpowered by the drones who have been programmed to prevent us civilians from seeing and knowing to much.

LOL funny. its all bass ackwards

the constitution is every bit as complex and open to interpretation as the bible,,,

there are all types of qualifiers throughout the constittion that people overlook when demanding absolutes

for example,

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, BUT UPON PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

notice the qualifier there? why do we suppose they didnt jus stop at... no warrants shall issue?

did we have the technology to be threatened by other nations,extremists abroad, except in hand to hand or government against government,, during founding days?

should we hold off acting unless we can 'capture' them and bring them to trial? what would be the 'better' way to handle the situation of criminal terrorists hiding in other countries?

is war better? should governments continue to have wars and higher body counts and loss of innocent life if they can limit the scope of damage and death with technology?

Earth to msharmony,Rights are an Absolute!

war is dumb, these days.
the purpose of our taxpayer dollar, paying our military, isn't for our gov to take it upon themselves, to send troops to various countries, to bully the countries rightful occupants, into compliance w what Unk Sam wants.
The military is to serve and protect OUR COUNTRY.
the sci-fi bible says take the plank out of your own eye, before attempting to remove the speck of dust from your brothers.
our gov has become a mafia, long forgotten are the PUBLIC SERVANT OATHS all gov, and law enforcement swear.

I think the civil war was the last of US logical, rationally thought out war.

since then, had our power seeking gov kept their nose out of others business, other countries wouldnt be so hateful toward us.
P.S. I don't believe for a second twin towers were terroristic acts...check out implosion videos...

@Dreamer1982
The idea of big government handling sounds great because you are convincing the public that they don’t have to be responsible. I remember in Psychology class we covered how people would keep sending electric shocks to a person once they have been reassured that they will not be held accountable for their action.

@msharmony
Like the Bible you have to go back to understand what they were implying and the mind set of when they wrote the constitution. Is it ok for them to wire tape everyone, read all our e-mails, scan our cell phones with out a warrant and probable cause? Probable cause means they have to show the judge that there is a very good reason so that those who maintain office of power cannot use said power to oppress or punish someone just because they don’t like them or what they have said.

If we are going to war, then congress needs to declare war and the goals need for victory. Things like prisoners of war and traitors are treated differently. For an example, if a person is accused of being a traitor, then it is brought to congress for a vote. If congress finds the person guilty of being a traitor, then that person is put to death. Article III, Section 3

I just read a story yesterday about a guy in wither New York or New Jersey who is a certified firearms instructor and Game and Fish hunter education instructor. He had bought his son a .22 rifle for his birthday because he had just completed the hunter ed course and is old enough to hunt in his state, the father of the boy took a photo of him holding his new rifle on their front porch and posted it to bookface. Someone reported the photo to child protective services and they along with the police department showed up at their house one night demanding to come in and snoop around, the guys wife was home but he was not and she called him and told him what was going on. He immediately headed for home and called their lawyer. When he got home he handed his phone to one of the cops (on speaker phone) and the lawyer asked them if they had a warrant and of course they said no so the lawyer told them if you have a warrant your coming in, if you do not have warrant then hit the road and that is what they did.

Phreaking Stormtroopers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMckjuhTCI


here is a simple example of misuse of force.
Filming police is a right. it CANNOT be illegal anywhere in US.

he did nothing at all illegal, they were just wanting to look tough.
find a law or logic to explain how he did anything wrong, by LAW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI8qxeyMcuQ

this one is nice too

Legal is whatever the Police decides it is on the Spur of the moment!
It's Subjective,not Objective!

From 3 to 4,500: What laws have you broken today?


The U.S. Constitution mentions three federal crimes by citizens: treason, piracy and counterfeiting. Today, there are an estimated 4,500 crimes in federal statutes, write Gary Fields and John R. Emshwiller for the Wall Street Journal.

Clarence Darrow anticipated the prison nation that America is today a hundred years ago in his book Resist Not Evil. All areas of life have become part of the penal code, with an army of people operating as police, legislators, and the court system to enforce these laws through force and violence. But even Darrow wouldn’t have dreamed that the unauthorized use of the Smokey Bear image, or of the slogan “Give a Hoot, Don’t Pollute” can land a person in federal prison.

Fields and Emshwiller’s frightening article tells about a father and son chased by the Feds for unknowingly digging on federal ground for arrowheads. “The Andersons are two of the hundreds of thousands of Americans to be charged and convicted in recent decades under federal criminal laws—as opposed to state or local laws—as the federal justice system has dramatically expanded its authority and reach.”

The Amercian Bar Association can’t even tally up the federal offenses exactly but believe the number exceeds 3,000. The ABA’s report said “the amount of individual citizen behavior now potentially subject to federal criminal control has increased in astonishing proportions in the last few decades.”

A Justice spokeswoman told the WSJ, that there was no quantifiable number. “Criminal statutes are sprinkled throughout some 27,000 pages of the federal code,” write Fields and Emshwiller.

These crimes of the state’s making are sending 83,000 people a year to federal prison. While the US population has grown 36% in the past three decades, three times more people are going to prison, with immigration and drug violations making up over 60% of the offenses in 2010. The federal prison population has grown eight fold during this period.

Of course much of the public cheers on the increasing prison state.

Roscoe Howard, the former U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, argues that the system “isn’t broken.” Congress, he says, took its cue over the decades from a public less tolerant of certain behaviors. Current law provides a range of options to protect society, he says. “It would be horrible if they started repealing laws and taking those options away.”

One wonders if Howard believes 77-year-old race-car legend Bobby Unser deserves to have a criminal record “for accidentally driving a snowmobile onto protected federal land, violating the Wilderness Act, while lost in a snowstorm.” Or whether a Pennsylvania woman who violated a 1998 federal chemical-weapons law tied to an international arms-control treaty should spend six years in prison. The woman spread some chemicals that burned her husband’s paramour on the thumb.

The woman has challenged the law’s constitutionality and the Supreme Court is sympathetic.

During oral arguments in the case, Justice Samuel Alito expressed concern about the law’s “breadth” by laying out a hypothetical example. Simply pouring a bottle of vinegar into a bowl to kill someone’s goldfish, Justice Alito said, could be “potentially punishable by life imprisonment.”

And this is today’s justice system? Darrow wrote in 1902,

the state furnishes no machinery for arriving at justice. [It] has no way of arriving at the facts. If the state pretends to administer justice this should be its highest concern. It should not be interested in convicting men or punishing crime, but administering justice between men. It is obvious to the most casual observer that the state furnishes no machinery to accomplish this result.


http://archive.mises.org/17835/from-3-to-4500-what-laws-have-you-broken-today/