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Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 04/24/13 10:32 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Wed 04/24/13 10:35 AM
Many restaurant workers are striking today, for higer wages. They would like to make at least 15 dollars an hour instead of the minimum
wage of 8.25. Over 30 businesses have lost employees, to this stike going on all over the City, included in this is McDonalds.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 04/24/13 10:35 AM

Many restaurant workers are striking today, for higer wages. They would like to make at least 15 dollars an hour instead of the minimum
wage of 8.25. Over 30 business have lost employees to this stike going on all over the City including McDonalds.


This is ridiculous. Without a real skill or degree this is what you get.

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Wed 04/24/13 10:37 AM

Many restaurant workers are striking today, for higer wages. They would like to make at least 15 dollars an hour instead of the minimum
wage of 8.25. Over 30 businesses have lost employees, to this stike going on all over the City, included in this is McDonalds.


This creates job opportunities for others willing to work.

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/24/13 10:49 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 04/24/13 10:50 AM

Many restaurant workers are striking today, for higer wages. They would like to make at least 15 dollars an hour instead of the minimum
wage of 8.25. Over 30 businesses have lost employees, to this stike going on all over the City, included in this is McDonalds.


I think 15 is ridiculous for restaurant work. I think minimum wage is fair as those jobs are usually for young people starting out with minimal expenses.

jobs that require training and experience beyond high school, should have a higher wage than minimum though.

if you have invested significant money into the education (beyond public school), you should be getting a decent wage in return.

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/24/13 10:59 AM


well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/24/13 11:17 AM



well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity


positions that dont require skills beyond smiling and serving,,,are deserving of minimum wage. There should be no limitation on customers adding to that with tips though.

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/24/13 11:23 AM




well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity


positions that dont require skills beyond smiling and serving,,,are deserving of minimum wage. There should be no limitation on customers adding to that with tips though.



there is more to being a good server than smiling and serving

also no mandatory tipping should be permitted as well

they should pay enough to not require tipping

and yes there is required tipping

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/24/13 11:30 AM





well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity


positions that dont require skills beyond smiling and serving,,,are deserving of minimum wage. There should be no limitation on customers adding to that with tips though.



there is more to being a good server than smiling and serving

also no mandatory tipping should be permitted as well

they should pay enough to not require tipping

and yes there is required tipping




Ive been a server, its not much more to it than being able to be friendly and serve

but I agree , there should still be minimum wage with the OPTION for customers to tip according to the service they feel they received,,,

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/24/13 11:43 AM






well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity


positions that dont require skills beyond smiling and serving,,,are deserving of minimum wage. There should be no limitation on customers adding to that with tips though.



there is more to being a good server than smiling and serving

also no mandatory tipping should be permitted as well

they should pay enough to not require tipping

and yes there is required tipping




Ive been a server, its not much more to it than being able to be friendly and serve

but I agree , there should still be minimum wage with the OPTION for customers to tip according to the service they feel they received,,,


something there we can agree on

flowerforyou flowerforyou

i have been on all 3 sides of this

i have served

i have cooked

and i have been a customer

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as a server the cook can cost the server a lot of money as few tip
for bad food

and the cook usually does not get a cut of the tip even tho a lot tip for good foo even if they get poor service

imo tipping should be taken out of the equation and people should be paid fairly

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Wed 04/24/13 06:13 PM



well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity


I waited tables, made good money at it as well; largest single tip I got was over $200 at a table of 25.

If Restaurants did as you said, many Servers would see a Pay Cut rather than an Increase.

willing2's photo
Wed 04/24/13 06:34 PM
Working tables sure beats hell outa' sittin' on yer a$$ collecting welfare extensions, IMO.

andrewzooms's photo
Wed 04/24/13 08:01 PM
15 dollars an hour lol.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/25/13 02:18 AM

Working tables sure beats hell outa' sittin' on yer a$$ collecting welfare extensions, IMO.



I dont know what people are paid for waitressing in other places, I think I made something like 2 bucks per hour (thats 80 dollars full time), that doesnt cover the insurane/bus pass, child care, and gas to be able to GET to the job,, so Id say, its not as productive as spending that time looking for a decent wage somewhere else,,,personally,,,,

many people waiting tables are still not earning so much and still receive welfare

its not the norm for welfare recipients to be 'sitting on their a$$', most welfare programs require activities from those participants to be eligible,,,,,


but back on topic, 15 dollars an hour is a ridiculous wage for the type of position in question,,,,

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Thu 04/25/13 06:21 AM
but back on topic, 15 dollars an hour is a ridiculous wage for the type of position in question,,,,


msharmony, you are starting to sound like a Republican.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/25/13 08:22 AM

but back on topic, 15 dollars an hour is a ridiculous wage for the type of position in question,,,,


msharmony, you are starting to sound like a Republican.



do all republicans sound alike? lol

my family is democrat, and I know none of them who would think 15 dollars an hour is a reasonable wage for a waitress

I dont think logic is an exlusive attribute of any party,, do you?flowerforyou

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Thu 04/25/13 08:45 AM
The Free Market is a Good Tool to use to set price on both Goods and Labor; Restaurants could easily replace those striking workers with new crews, demand Higher pay only to be Unemployed.

*Hint* Going on Strike for a raise on an easily learned skill during High Unemployment; Not Smart.

I pay my Employees Market Wages, set by other Gas Stations, Supermarkets, Wal-Mart, Other like Businesses, because if I didn't they'd only work for me until that got hired by someone else; then those who earned it, I pay a bit more.

Course I still lose Employees to others; My ***. Manager will be going to work for the Sheriff after she Graduates with a Criminal Justice Degree in a few months. I'll be sending her off in style with a Party and a Parting Gift (S&W M&P .45, but don't tell her) as my Daughter will be covering at the Store so that the entire crew can be there.

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Thu 04/25/13 11:36 AM

Many restaurant workers are striking today, for higer wages. They would like to make at least 15 dollars an hour instead of the minimum
wage of 8.25. Over 30 businesses have lost employees, to this stike going on all over the City, included in this is McDonalds.
Reminds me about those ones working a McDonalds in NY wanting $15 wage and to unionize. In other words they want to do away with the dollar menu that help low income people. I lived off the dollar menu when I was in college.

Minimum wage is a “get your foot in the door” wage. Often most people either move up in wages along with job promotions or move to other jobs in different business. Most minimum wage jobs are for first jobs and low skilled.

Here is Stossel talking about first jobs.
http://youtu.be/nnn5CAV5uYQ

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Thu 04/25/13 11:39 AM


Working tables sure beats hell outa' sittin' on yer a$$ collecting welfare extensions, IMO.



I dont know what people are paid for waitressing in other places, I think I made something like 2 bucks per hour (thats 80 dollars full time), that doesnt cover the insurane/bus pass, child care, and gas to be able to GET to the job,, so Id say, its not as productive as spending that time looking for a decent wage somewhere else,,,personally,,,,

many people waiting tables are still not earning so much and still receive welfare

its not the norm for welfare recipients to be 'sitting on their a$$', most welfare programs require activities from those participants to be eligible,,,,,


but back on topic, 15 dollars an hour is a ridiculous wage for the type of position in question,,,,

The servers may get $2.00 an hour paid by the restaurant but most get their money from tips. I know a girl that work in the restaurant as a server and she was working up to the bar where you can make a lot of money on tips serving beer.

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Thu 04/25/13 12:33 PM



well you get what you pay for if you are lucky


many restaurants pay servers very minimal amount and expect customers
to subsidize that pay with tips

they then charge a price that could cover the cost of a decent wage

sorry but a good worker should get a decent wage without customer charity



Workers in all restaurants still have to pay rent, utilities, groceries etc. etc. not to mention the mandatory car insurance if they have one, social security and other amounts automatically deducted from their pay. Not much left to live on at 8 something per hour . Tips have to be divided up among all the workers...one doesn't earn much in tips except call girls.
In many studies dome for the last several years by private and union companies an overall figure was for what can be an actual and real day to day living wage in both the US and Canada is between 17 and 18 dollars an hour, given the average ratios of rents to wages. Those with one or more children may still have to rely on social welfare to bring those families up to par. In some cases, a surplus of perhaps 20% may appear; from 15 to 25 dollars extra! WOW! Party Time to the critics of the concept of a "living wage" . This vast amount will result in having to hold more than one job at least part time, This will usually mean infant care payments which may be paid by social welfare to keep the family barely at par with what the average base income should be with necessary life expenses of food and shelter not withstanding...Give people a living wage and the expenses for all related 'welfare expenses' paid out by the govt. gets reduced and saved. Perfectly obvious. It generates the ending of the poverty cycles endemic for many and society, along with the economy can operate more cost efficiently. Eventually everyone benefits by reducing and hopefully eliminating poverty, stage by stage.

Toodygirl5's photo
Thu 04/25/13 05:40 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 04/25/13 06:20 PM

Minimum wage is a “get your foot in the door” wage. Often most people either move up in wages along with job promotions or move to other jobs in different business. Most minimum wage jobs are for first jobs and low skilled.




Many people live off of minimum wage jobs for years. Poplar
Restaurants here pay good money and people make good tips. I knew
a waiter, he made very good tips. He also moved up to a manager
Postion, after a while, because so many people liked his service.
Men servers are often better than most waitress where I go. Imo

I am not a fast food person, but I do believe everyone needs more than minimum wage, with the cost of living these days.

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