Are there any topics in existence, that have not yet made it into the date site forums? Seems like the same subject matter as it was 4 years ago when I used the site, but mostly different people.

Maybe it is time for pretend topics?
Not to make this political, but how about mating Obama, with a male horse...or an elephant?

Just to see what happens... exactly as it seems he is doing with the country.

here is a topic,,,,,more about collective responsibility than fingerpointing at scapegoats...


Nations most often fall from within, and this fall is usually due to a decline in the moral and spiritual values in the family. As families go, so goes a nation.


This has been the main premise of thinkers from British historian J. D. Unwin to Russian sociologist Pitirim Sorokin who have studied civilizations that have collapsed. In his book Our Dance Has Turned to Death, Carl Wilson identifies the common pattern of family decline in ancient Greece and the Roman Empire. Notice how these seven stages parallel what is happening in our nation today. In the first stage, men ceased to lead their families in worship. Spiritual and moral development became secondary. Their view of God became naturalistic, mathematical, and mechanical.


In the second stage, men selfishly neglected care of their wives and children to pursue material wealth, political and military power, and cultural development. Material values began to dominate thought, and the man began to exalt his own role as an individual. The third stage involved a change in men's sexual values. Men who were preoccupied with business or war either neglected their wives sexually or became involved with lower-class women or with homosexuality. Ultimately, a double standard of morality developed. The fourth stage affected women. The role of women at home and with children lost value and status. Women were neglected and their roles devalued. Soon they revolted to gain access to material wealth and also freedom for sex outside marriage. Women also began to minimize having sex relations to conceive children, and the emphasis became sex for pleasure. Marriage laws were changed to make divorce easy.


In the fifth stage, husbands and wives competed against each other for money, home leadership, and the affection of their children. This resulted in hostility and frustration and possible homosexuality in the children. Many marriages ended in separation and divorce.


Many children were unwanted, aborted, abandoned, molested, and undisciplined. The more undisciplined children became, the more social pressure there was not to have children. The breakdown of the home produced anarchy.


In the sixth stage, selfish individualism grew and carried over into society, fragmenting it into smaller and smaller group loyalties. The nation was thus weakened by internal conflict. The decrease in the birthrate produced an older population that had less ability to defend itself and less will to do so, making the nation more vulnerable to its enemies.


Finally, unbelief in God became more complete, parental authority diminished, and ethical and moral principles disappeared, affecting the economy and government. Thus, by internal weakness and fragmentation the societies came apart. There was no way to save them except by a dictator who arose from within or by barbarians who invaded from without.


Although this is an ancient pattern of decline found in Greece and Rome, it is relevant today. Families are the foundation of a nation. When the family crumbles, the nation falls because nations are built upon family units. They are the true driving social force. A nation will not be strong unless the family is strong. That was true in the ancient world and it is true today.


Social commentator Michael Novak, writing on the importance of the family, said:



One unforgettable law has been learned through all the disasters and injustices of the last thousand years: If things go well with the family, life is worth living; when the family falters, life falls apart.


from :http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/decline.html

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

more, the nations condition started four years ago,,,,,,

seems quite silly a suggestion to me,,,but to each their own,,,,

They already mated Obama (mother) with a horse (father) and she gave birth to a jackass!

Glad to have prevented this:

. "Corporations are people, my friend ... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings, my friend."



"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."


As president, I will create 12 million new jobs." —Mitt Romney, during the second presidential debate
"Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs." —Mitt Romney, 45 minutes later (Oct. 16, 2012)





thank goodness we dodged that bullet,,,,(we ,meaning those who arent privileged and detached from the struggles of anyone else)

good read and many good notions therein, thank you. Whether or not someone likes Mr. Obama, respect is due the nation's President.

I am apalled by some of the derogatory comments I see. Do you think you'd have seen that poster with the condom in reference to JFK, Lyndon Johnson or Geo Bush? no.

The pervasive lack of respect for the office of the President is not a wise choice for this country

So, if you hired a woman to clean your house, and if she did a lousy job, then would you want to be able to "fire" her and replace her with someone else?

That is what Mitt Romney was talking about.

just because others want to venture beyond the fence into the wolves den,,,,doesnt mean I dont feel just as free with my needs and wants right where Im at

fence or not,,,,