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Topic: Why Good People Should Be Armed
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 12:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20RoAfflGCM&feature=youtu.be

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Mon 12/02/13 12:27 PM
I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/02/13 12:28 PM
Edited by metalwing on Mon 12/02/13 12:30 PM
The right to self defense is historically universal.

The right to bear arms is constitutional.

The need for good people to bear arms is because so many bad people exist.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 12/02/13 12:34 PM
The right to bear arms is constitutional.



Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 12:43 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 12/02/13 12:46 PM


I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.


I was taught that information was where you find it, knowledge is what you glean from it, and opinion is based on that knowledge.

If video or links are not enticements to education then why do we have TVs, cell phones, computers or any other form of communication to outside information?

Sometimes a video says it all, and not watching one that is offered says a lot as well........

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Mon 12/02/13 12:48 PM



I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.


I was taught that information was where you find it, knowledge is what you glean from it, and opinion is based on that knowledge.

If video or links are not enticements to education then why do we have TVs, cell phones, computers or any other form of communication to outside information?

Sometimes a video says it all, and not watching one that is offered says a lot as well........


If you feel a video, especially on YouTube, is very important, why not give a little info about it?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 12:53 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 12/02/13 01:08 PM




I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.


I was taught that information was where you find it, knowledge is what you glean from it, and opinion is based on that knowledge.

If video or links are not enticements to education then why do we have TVs, cell phones, computers or any other form of communication to outside information?

Sometimes a video says it all, and not watching one that is offered says a lot as well........


If you feel a video, especially on YouTube, is very important, why not give a little info about it?


I thought that was what the title did.

What was I supposed to say...."Watch this!" ?

If someone hands you something to read do you expect them to tell you what is says, give you an opinion, or do you read it, formulate your own, and comment?

And BTW..... Youtube is one of the most visited and used sites on the internet. More so than even google or network news, so it stands to reason it's as useful and informative as any other source offered, it is opinion that will be the judge, not the content.

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Mon 12/02/13 01:06 PM
A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:10 PM

A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving





There's one born every minute!

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Mon 12/02/13 01:13 PM





I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.


I was taught that information was where you find it, knowledge is what you glean from it, and opinion is based on that knowledge.

If video or links are not enticements to education then why do we have TVs, cell phones, computers or any other form of communication to outside information?

Sometimes a video says it all, and not watching one that is offered says a lot as well........


If you feel a video, especially on YouTube, is very important, why not give a little info about it?


I thought that was what the title did.

What was I supposed to say...."Watch this!" ?

If someone hands you something to read do you expect them to tell you what is says, give you an opinion, or do you read it, formulate your own, and comment?

And BTW..... Youtube is one of the most visited and used sites on the internet. More so than even google or network news, so it stands to reason it's as useful and informative as any other source offered, it is opinion that will be the judge, not the content.


If someone hands me something to read, I'd expect a little background info, at least. Which is what I'd expect for a YouTube link as well. If it's not important enough for you to tell a bit about it, why should I spend my time watching it?

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:15 PM

A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving


If you actually spent any time studying the problem instead of just taking the liberal POV, you would realize just how wrong you are.

Begin Quote:

November 24, 2013, Seattle Police Blotter, Seattle, Wash. November 24, 2013

Robert Moore was working a shift at the Morning Star Mini Mart in Seattle, Wash. when a pair of masked criminals entered, brandished what appeared to be a gun, and attempted to rob the store. Moore responded by retrieving a revolver and telling the criminals, “I have a bigger one than you do.” Moore’s actions caused the robbers to flee the store to a waiting getaway car.
FULL STORY

November 21, 2013
Store assistant manager fired for fighting off armed robber, WXIA, Atlanta, Ga. 11/08/13

Johnny Jarriel was working his shift in the back office of a gas station in Douglasville, Ga. when a robber armed with a gun and pepper spray attacked him. The criminal sprayed Jarriel with the pepper spray, then put a gun to his head and forced him to the ground while threatening his life and demanding cash. Jarriel told the robber that the store’s safe was in another part of the business, then, while the criminal was distracted, Jarriel retrieved a gun and fired at his attacker, causing the robber to flee. Unfortunately, a few days after the incident, Jarriel’s employer fired him for violating the store’s no guns policy. Despite his termination, Jarriel, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, told a local media outlet, “I would not change a thing; I would change nothing.”
FULL STORY

November 18, 2013
Woman in her 60s fights off attacker, The Kansas City Star, Kansas City, Mo. 11/14/13

A woman in her 60s was at home in Kansas City, Mo. when a there was a knock at her door. She opened it to find a 24-year-old man, who asked after someone who didn’t live at the residence, then forced his way inside the home. The home invader then sexually assaulted the woman. During a pause in the attack, the woman was able to retrieve a revolver. She then shot and killed the criminal as he was making his way towards her again. The home invader was released from prison in 2012 after serving a sentence for burglary and robbery convictions.
FULL STORY

November 15, 2013
Customer halts armed robbery inside Family Dollar store, WPMI, Mobile, Ala. 11/13/13

Two employees of a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Ala. were unloading a truck, when a pair of armed robbers approached them. One of the criminals forced one of the employees to the front of the store, past terrified customers, and demanded that the employee open the safe. Upon witnessing the robbery, one customer drew a gun and fired at the thief, striking him and causing his accomplice to flee. Following the incident, another customer inside the store during the robbery spoke with reporters and thanked the armed citizen, stating, “"I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart and God bless you.”
FULL STORY


This could go on by the thousands...

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:23 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 12/02/13 01:30 PM






I wonder how many people bother watching videos in threads like these where the OP offers nothing but the subject line.


I was taught that information was where you find it, knowledge is what you glean from it, and opinion is based on that knowledge.

If video or links are not enticements to education then why do we have TVs, cell phones, computers or any other form of communication to outside information?

Sometimes a video says it all, and not watching one that is offered says a lot as well........


If you feel a video, especially on YouTube, is very important, why not give a little info about it?


I thought that was what the title did.

What was I supposed to say...."Watch this!" ?

If someone hands you something to read do you expect them to tell you what is says, give you an opinion, or do you read it, formulate your own, and comment?

And BTW..... Youtube is one of the most visited and used sites on the internet. More so than even google or network news, so it stands to reason it's as useful and informative as any other source offered, it is opinion that will be the judge, not the content.


If someone hands me something to read, I'd expect a little background info, at least. Which is what I'd expect for a YouTube link as well. If it's not important enough for you to tell a bit about it, why should I spend my time watching it?


Your understanding and my opinion may conflict causing bias or a lack of communication. Not everyone judges a book by it's cover or the appearance of the author but will take an offering for a glance before passing judgement....usually.

Rather than watching and contributing comment on the topic you instead choose to attack the poster......

So who is the one of any fault in this scenario?

"Hi! Here's a greeting card. It says....."

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:34 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 12/02/13 01:35 PM

A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving

WHAT Assault-Weapons?
Oh,that semi-Automat with that Bayonet-Lug and Barrelshroud!


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Mon 12/02/13 01:39 PM


A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving


If you actually spent any time studying the problem instead of just taking the liberal POV, you would realize just how wrong you are.

Begin Quote:

November 24, 2013, Seattle Police Blotter, Seattle, Wash. November 24, 2013

Robert Moore was working a shift at the Morning Star Mini Mart in Seattle, Wash. when a pair of masked criminals entered, brandished what appeared to be a gun, and attempted to rob the store. Moore responded by retrieving a revolver and telling the criminals, “I have a bigger one than you do.” Moore’s actions caused the robbers to flee the store to a waiting getaway car.
FULL STORY

November 21, 2013
Store assistant manager fired for fighting off armed robber, WXIA, Atlanta, Ga. 11/08/13

Johnny Jarriel was working his shift in the back office of a gas station in Douglasville, Ga. when a robber armed with a gun and pepper spray attacked him. The criminal sprayed Jarriel with the pepper spray, then put a gun to his head and forced him to the ground while threatening his life and demanding cash. Jarriel told the robber that the store’s safe was in another part of the business, then, while the criminal was distracted, Jarriel retrieved a gun and fired at his attacker, causing the robber to flee. Unfortunately, a few days after the incident, Jarriel’s employer fired him for violating the store’s no guns policy. Despite his termination, Jarriel, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, told a local media outlet, “I would not change a thing; I would change nothing.”
FULL STORY

November 18, 2013
Woman in her 60s fights off attacker, The Kansas City Star, Kansas City, Mo. 11/14/13

A woman in her 60s was at home in Kansas City, Mo. when a there was a knock at her door. She opened it to find a 24-year-old man, who asked after someone who didn’t live at the residence, then forced his way inside the home. The home invader then sexually assaulted the woman. During a pause in the attack, the woman was able to retrieve a revolver. She then shot and killed the criminal as he was making his way towards her again. The home invader was released from prison in 2012 after serving a sentence for burglary and robbery convictions.
FULL STORY

November 15, 2013
Customer halts armed robbery inside Family Dollar store, WPMI, Mobile, Ala. 11/13/13

Two employees of a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Ala. were unloading a truck, when a pair of armed robbers approached them. One of the criminals forced one of the employees to the front of the store, past terrified customers, and demanded that the employee open the safe. Upon witnessing the robbery, one customer drew a gun and fired at the thief, striking him and causing his accomplice to flee. Following the incident, another customer inside the store during the robbery spoke with reporters and thanked the armed citizen, stating, “"I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart and God bless you.”
FULL STORY


This could go on by the thousands...


Oh here we go... Metal, I have much respect for you, but you have one foot on a banana peel and one in the coffin on this subject mate. Tell me, who in their right mind, would walk into a corner store shoving a weapon in someones face, knowing full well there's a 95% chance the store owner or a shopper might be armed?

But the facts are that these armed assaults are increasing in frequency...

Why is that?


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Mon 12/02/13 01:41 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 12/02/13 01:42 PM
good people don't NEED to have a gun

unless they live in crime ridden areas where guns are RAMPANT already

there is no real compelling evidence to back up either side of the argument, in my opinion

there are plenty of studies showing those with guns being more likely to be shot or killed in confrontations than those without

the best self defense is between the ears, being aware of your surroundings and how to approach and work with them

simple

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:42 PM



A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving


If you actually spent any time studying the problem instead of just taking the liberal POV, you would realize just how wrong you are.

Begin Quote:

November 24, 2013, Seattle Police Blotter, Seattle, Wash. November 24, 2013

Robert Moore was working a shift at the Morning Star Mini Mart in Seattle, Wash. when a pair of masked criminals entered, brandished what appeared to be a gun, and attempted to rob the store. Moore responded by retrieving a revolver and telling the criminals, “I have a bigger one than you do.” Moore’s actions caused the robbers to flee the store to a waiting getaway car.
FULL STORY

November 21, 2013
Store assistant manager fired for fighting off armed robber, WXIA, Atlanta, Ga. 11/08/13

Johnny Jarriel was working his shift in the back office of a gas station in Douglasville, Ga. when a robber armed with a gun and pepper spray attacked him. The criminal sprayed Jarriel with the pepper spray, then put a gun to his head and forced him to the ground while threatening his life and demanding cash. Jarriel told the robber that the store’s safe was in another part of the business, then, while the criminal was distracted, Jarriel retrieved a gun and fired at his attacker, causing the robber to flee. Unfortunately, a few days after the incident, Jarriel’s employer fired him for violating the store’s no guns policy. Despite his termination, Jarriel, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, told a local media outlet, “I would not change a thing; I would change nothing.”
FULL STORY

November 18, 2013
Woman in her 60s fights off attacker, The Kansas City Star, Kansas City, Mo. 11/14/13

A woman in her 60s was at home in Kansas City, Mo. when a there was a knock at her door. She opened it to find a 24-year-old man, who asked after someone who didn’t live at the residence, then forced his way inside the home. The home invader then sexually assaulted the woman. During a pause in the attack, the woman was able to retrieve a revolver. She then shot and killed the criminal as he was making his way towards her again. The home invader was released from prison in 2012 after serving a sentence for burglary and robbery convictions.
FULL STORY

November 15, 2013
Customer halts armed robbery inside Family Dollar store, WPMI, Mobile, Ala. 11/13/13

Two employees of a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Ala. were unloading a truck, when a pair of armed robbers approached them. One of the criminals forced one of the employees to the front of the store, past terrified customers, and demanded that the employee open the safe. Upon witnessing the robbery, one customer drew a gun and fired at the thief, striking him and causing his accomplice to flee. Following the incident, another customer inside the store during the robbery spoke with reporters and thanked the armed citizen, stating, “"I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart and God bless you.”
FULL STORY


This could go on by the thousands...


Oh here we go... Metal, I have much respect for you, but you have one foot on a banana peel and one in the coffin on this subject mate. Tell me, who in their right mind, would walk into a corner store shoving a weapon in someones face, knowing full well there's a 95% chance the store owner or a shopper might be armed?

But the facts are that these armed assaults are increasing in frequency...

Why is that?




They're called laws..... passed by idiot liberals that restrict the rights of citizens to protect themselves and criminals to have free reign in our cities.

Look at Chicago and NY!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:42 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 12/02/13 01:47 PM

good people don't NEED to have a gun

unless they live in crime ridden areas where guns are RAMPANT already

there is no real compelling evidence to back up either side of the argument, in my opinion

there are plenty of studies showing those with guns being more likely to be shot or killed in confrontations than those without

the best self defense is between the ears, being aware of your surroundings and how to approach and work with them

simple




Talk that killer with a gun in your face down or just grab him till the police get there!

OH! And don't forget to remind him that crime is against the law! laugh

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Mon 12/02/13 01:45 PM


A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving

WHAT Assault-Weapons?
Oh,that semi-Automat with that Bayonet-Lug and Barrelshroud!




Hey Conrad, Get with the times eh...
We're dealing with Bathsalts, Meth and Crack addicts now.

Get out of the forties will ya? this is serious!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:49 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 12/02/13 01:51 PM



A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving

WHAT Assault-Weapons?
Oh,that semi-Automat with that Bayonet-Lug and Barrelshroud!




Hey Conrad, Get with the times eh...
We're dealing with Bathsalts, Meth and Crack addicts now.

Get out of the forties will ya? this is serious!


It's people with your opinion that make it serious by restricting the rights of the average citizen to protect themselves and their families!

Gun laws are like locks! Only the innocent are stopped by them!

THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/02/13 01:50 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 12/02/13 01:52 PM



A 13 minute crock of Chit! drinker

-The Gov doesn't want assault weapons... true, not because they're afraid of them being used on the establishment and not because criminal elements use them... No, because mentally deranged mass murderers are killing your children! Simple.

-The fact that weapon carriers haven't stopped armed aggressions... and they're getting more frequent as economic hard times are getting harder... law enforcement wouldn't know who was who during an armed assault... This should wake up the pro-gun lobby... but nooo

You guys don't have the balls to start an armed rebellion against your gov... Soft targets, Now that's the American way!waving

WHAT Assault-Weapons?
Oh,that semi-Automat with that Bayonet-Lug and Barrelshroud!




Hey Conrad, Get with the times eh...
We're dealing with Bathsalts, Meth and Crack addicts now.

Get out of the forties will ya? this is serious!

Friggen right this is serious,serious enough NOT be unarmed!
Me thinks I will treat myself to a STGW-57 !
Why?
Because I can!:banana:

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as45/sig_sg510_stg57-2.jpg

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