Topic: Tax payers chip in on Meeshells birthday present
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Fri 01/10/14 06:17 PM




A 1099 contractor with a set company is not self employed. Just a way for a corporation not to have liabilities. Perhaps the IRS should examine this, could be liabilities there that need resolved. Can't have citizens going around the system.



independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined



Oh boy, the IRS and .gov in the same reference. I'm dropping to my knees and bowing in reverence to the almighty source.

And do you have any knowledge of Title 26 at all? Absolutely not.

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Fri 01/10/14 06:22 PM

and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Have you worked for "Disney"? Or perhaps it's just Peter Pan seemed so real.

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Fri 01/10/14 06:27 PM

You right, SS.

If I had told any of the office managers I was going on a couple weeks vacation and their offices would just have to stay dirty, they'd be finding them a new company to take my contract.

I could never find an employee I could trust to do a thorough job and, if they stole something, I would be liable.




So very right on, especially for sole proprietors in a service business. You work so hard to build your customer base and the first sign of weakness and all is gone.

If you haven't been there and done that, it is so hard to understand. And behind every successful entrepreneur, there are so many hard years of building to get where their business is self sustaining.

Unless of course you are sucking off that great government tit. That is the entitlement world so familiar to the Odumboites.

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Sat 01/11/14 01:10 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/11/14 01:20 AM





A 1099 contractor with a set company is not self employed. Just a way for a corporation not to have liabilities. Perhaps the IRS should examine this, could be liabilities there that need resolved. Can't have citizens going around the system.



independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined



Oh boy, the IRS and .gov in the same reference. I'm dropping to my knees and bowing in reverence to the almighty source.

And do you have any knowledge of Title 26 at all? Absolutely not.



so, yeah, I can read, so I can learn and research and cut and paste whatever one wished to see in these forums about Title 26,,,THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE,, which IM sure has nothing to do with the IRS or a discussion about business and employee definitions,,btw...lol


but ANYWAY,,,,,, what does knowledge of title 26 have to do AT ALL With whether self employed or sole proprietors take vacations ?...lol


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Sat 01/11/14 01:11 AM






A 1099 contractor with a set company is not self employed. Just a way for a corporation not to have liabilities. Perhaps the IRS should examine this, could be liabilities there that need resolved. Can't have citizens going around the system.



independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined



Oh boy, the IRS and .gov in the same reference. I'm dropping to my knees and bowing in reverence to the almighty source.

And do you have any knowledge of Title 26 at all? Absolutely not.



so, yeah, I can read, so I can learn and research and cut and paste whatever one wished to see in these forums about Title 26,,,THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE,, which IM sure has nothing to do with the IRS at all,,,,lol

but ANYWAY,,,,,, what does knowledge of title 26 have to do AT ALL With whether o rnotself employed or sole proprietors take vacations?...lol


are tangents the backup to name calling?


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Sat 01/11/14 01:18 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/11/14 01:22 AM


and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Have you worked for "Disney"? Or perhaps it's just Peter Pan seemed so real.



I have someone close to me who has Been a self employed for the past twenty years

know what she did,,took some courses on a service people wanted, got a license and charged rates that allowed her FREEDOM,, to take
vacations, to do the things she wanted on her own schedule

and when she tired of that service (beauty),, she took more classes and started another business in photography, where she also sets her own schedule and is able to afford to set aside time to take VACATIONS

and another relative who did the same thing with a YOGA studio her significant other helped build in her home,, and SHE JUST TOOK A EUROPEAN VACATION,,,

so, I imagine there are those who are sole proprietors or self employed who struggle just like many employees do or worse

but there are also many who do well enough to have vacations and set their own schedule and enjoy their earnings,, just like many employees do,, or better


so, is there ANY rebuttal at all disproving that sole proprietors or self employed can take vacations like any other employed person can?

or just more ad hominem?


HINT: I wont hold my breath for the next question about yet another change in topic or personal insult,,,,,

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Sat 01/11/14 01:35 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 01/11/14 02:32 AM
this was the previous one!

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/obama-s-4-million-hawaiian-vacation-t10103.html

Anything for Glorious Leader (PBUH) and his Clan!pitchfork

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Sat 01/11/14 01:51 AM
risky site,, never a good sign of reliability or veracity,,and never something I click on,,,,,

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Sat 01/11/14 02:09 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 01/11/14 02:13 AM

risky site,, never a good sign of reliability or veracity,,and never something I click on,,,,,

never had any problems or got Malware from that Site!
Depending on your settings you might get a warning!
So it is up to you!:thumbsup:

Just checked the Site through VirusTotal!
Nothing wrong with it!

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Sat 01/11/14 02:16 AM
mcafee says its exhibiting risky behavior, so I will have to take a pass :smile:

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Sat 01/11/14 02:51 AM




Toiling for the People day and night without cease(If he is not on Vacation)laugh

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Sat 01/11/14 03:52 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 01/11/14 04:05 AM



and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Have you worked for "Disney"? Or perhaps it's just Peter Pan seemed so real.



I have someone close to me who has Been a self employed for the past twenty years

know what she did,,took some courses on a service people wanted, got a license and charged rates that allowed her FREEDOM,, to take
vacations, to do the things she wanted on her own schedule

and when she tired of that service (beauty),, she took more classes and started another business in photography, where she also sets her own schedule and is able to afford to set aside time to take VACATIONS

and another relative who did the same thing with a YOGA studio her significant other helped build in her home,, and SHE JUST TOOK A EUROPEAN VACATION,,,

so, I imagine there are those who are sole proprietors or self employed who struggle just like many employees do or worse

but there are also many who do well enough to have vacations and set their own schedule and enjoy their earnings,, just like many employees do,, or better


so, is there ANY rebuttal at all disproving that sole proprietors or self employed can take vacations like any other employed person can?

or just more ad hominem?


HINT: I wont hold my breath for the next question about yet another change in topic or personal insult,,,,,


Alcoa is considered a "small business" by the gov't, along with Proctor and Gamble, Boeing, Hirsh International, and thousands of others (the ones who lobby the small business regulations in congress) but the small businesses of the mom and pops don't receive those millions in taxpayer dollars to prop them up!

Warren Buffet and George Soros own many of them, all receiving subsidies and tax write-offs as small businesses in taxpayer dollars thru gov't welfare programs.

So yes, many "small business" owners can plan and take vacations by your explanation and standards.

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Sat 01/11/14 08:39 AM


and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Someday reality will shine through...... maybe

But first you must live in it

I'm reading, there's no real life managerial experience, sort of like oButtma.

I am reading,"When I grow up, I wannabe."

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Sat 01/11/14 09:35 AM
Edited by alnewman on Sat 01/11/14 10:03 AM




independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined



Oh boy, the IRS and .gov in the same reference. I'm dropping to my knees and bowing in reverence to the almighty source.

And do you have any knowledge of Title 26 at all? Absolutely not.



so, yeah, I can read, so I can learn and research and cut and paste whatever one wished to see in these forums about Title 26,,,THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE,, which IM sure has nothing to do with the IRS or a discussion about business and employee definitions,,btw...lol


but ANYWAY,,,,,, what does knowledge of title 26 have to do AT ALL With whether self employed or sole proprietors take vacations ?...lol



So you quote from that which you have no knowledge and readily admit it by asking what it has to do with anything.

And it has everything to do with proprietors and self-employed as that is where those categories are defined if you want to use irs.gov as a source. The big difference being irs.gov is for those that do not wish to know but be led. Maybe that would be why you are a taxpayer and I'm not. Good ole Title 26.

So now for the relevance to the topic, a 1099 contractor working for a set company is not self-employed in almost 90% of the instances. Also, it has no relevancy to those that are self employed and have to depend on themselves for their lively hood.

For your own good, I would seriously advise that you find a "JOB".

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Sat 01/11/14 09:48 AM
Edited by alnewman on Sat 01/11/14 09:50 AM



and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Have you worked for "Disney"? Or perhaps it's just Peter Pan seemed so real.



I have someone close to me who has Been a self employed for the past twenty years

know what she did,,took some courses on a service people wanted, got a license and charged rates that allowed her FREEDOM,, to take
vacations, to do the things she wanted on her own schedule

and when she tired of that service (beauty),, she took more classes and started another business in photography, where she also sets her own schedule and is able to afford to set aside time to take VACATIONS

and another relative who did the same thing with a YOGA studio her significant other helped build in her home,, and SHE JUST TOOK A EUROPEAN VACATION,,,

so, I imagine there are those who are sole proprietors or self employed who struggle just like many employees do or worse

but there are also many who do well enough to have vacations and set their own schedule and enjoy their earnings,, just like many employees do,, or better


so, is there ANY rebuttal at all disproving that sole proprietors or self employed can take vacations like any other employed person can?

or just more ad hominem?


HINT: I wont hold my breath for the next question about yet another change in topic or personal insult,,,,,


Sorry you asked, so I'll answer. Never ask me that which you do not wish to hear, I have no qualm about replying with an honest answer and I really don't like using sugar.

Being I strive to stay based in reality, I would say more of the same would be the appropriate answer. I mean the ole axiom of a fool: keep doing the same thing expecting a different result would apply here.

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Sat 01/11/14 09:55 AM
I like living like Meeshell.

Supported by the tax payers.

I would look for a job but, it has to meet my standard of a living wage.

Otherwise, welfare pays better.

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Sat 01/11/14 09:57 AM


risky site,, never a good sign of reliability or veracity,,and never something I click on,,,,,

never had any problems or got Malware from that Site!
Depending on your settings you might get a warning!
So it is up to you!:thumbsup:

Just checked the Site through VirusTotal!
Nothing wrong with it!



Definition:

Risky: might conflict with current views or might make viewer doubt misguided beliefs.

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Sat 01/11/14 10:01 AM





Toiling for the People day and night without cease(If he is not on Vacation)laugh


Hey, you left out the best one:


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Sat 01/11/14 12:22 PM



and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Someday reality will shine through...... maybe

But first you must live in it

I'm reading, there's no real life managerial experience, sort of like oButtma.

I am reading,"When I grow up, I wannabe."


lol,,

Im reading 'no one can give a logical rebuttal to the FACT That self employed take vacations'


laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 01/11/14 12:30 PM





independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined



Oh boy, the IRS and .gov in the same reference. I'm dropping to my knees and bowing in reverence to the almighty source.

And do you have any knowledge of Title 26 at all? Absolutely not.



so, yeah, I can read, so I can learn and research and cut and paste whatever one wished to see in these forums about Title 26,,,THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE,, which IM sure has nothing to do with the IRS or a discussion about business and employee definitions,,btw...lol


but ANYWAY,,,,,, what does knowledge of title 26 have to do AT ALL With whether self employed or sole proprietors take vacations ?...lol



So you quote from that which you have no knowledge and readily admit it by asking what it has to do with anything.

And it has everything to do with proprietors and self-employed as that is where those categories are defined if you want to use irs.gov as a source. The big difference being irs.gov is for those that do not wish to know but be led. Maybe that would be why you are a taxpayer and I'm not. Good ole Title 26.

So now for the relevance to the topic, a 1099 contractor working for a set company is not self-employed in almost 90% of the instances. Also, it has no relevancy to those that are self employed and have to depend on themselves for their lively hood.

For your own good, I would seriously advise that you find a "JOB".


I actually REFERENCED the definition of self employed, by the IRS,. which USES THE TAX CODE

not to mention some things are common sense,, put quite simply, if you make an income but you are not the employee of someone else,, you are SELF EMPLOYED



Title 26 does not define what self employed is even,,,not that these tangents about semantics and interpretations of select terms is relevant to whether the self employed take vacations

for your own good, I Would advise seriously that you quit Assuming what others know just because they READ or copy and paste actual definitions

lol