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| Topic: Adrianne Curry: ��Boycott Black History Month | |
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Until just recently, it's been taboo to discuss on a public forum race relations. No, those separatists groups and people are not new. They are the ones fighting to keep separatism alive. Matter of fact, just 3 years ago on one public forum I tried to make a thread regarding separatism. It was quickly deleted and the administration told me not to make another race relations thread again or I'd be banned. Was that "BAN" or banned. Just wanted to make sure. |
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Creative expression. We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in.  Oh, you were being creative with this thread? |
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Edited by
alnewman
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this says a lot "But that is not just to "Black History" but to so many other categories that remind us all that we are divided." division is the reality of how America was founded,,,, trying to ignore it wont fix it,, being 'reminded ' of it couldn't happen if it wasn't a fact of life and fixing it cant happen without acknowledging it,, or as you put it 'reminding' people,,,, I believe you have a distorted view of the history of this country and how it came about. Let's see... Declaration of Independence "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." Sure sounds divided to me. But then they had the Odumboites of their generation, the Loyalist. Weren't some of them hung for treason? Oh what a lesson we need to learn. |
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Creative expression. We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in. Very true, free to be... Not guaranteed to be... |
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seems like a difference in perception only one person sees celebrating difference in one situation as 'recognizing and honoring', as 'uniting' and 'understanding' and showing we are not 'inferior or superior' but in another situation, sees the same things as 'segregating' interesting,,, It is all a matter of comprehension, some can, some can't, some wont. Where you stand in that equation is up to the individual or as stated by Ben Franklin... "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." - Benjamin Franklin But he also addressed another issue within this thread... "The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." - Benjamin Franklin |
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Creative expression. We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in. free to be obsessed too the good and BAD of 'freedom' The only "bad" of freedom is those refusing to practice it to a degree that they believe others shouldn't also. |
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this says a lot "But that is not just to "Black History" but to so many other categories that remind us all that we are divided." division is the reality of how America was founded,,,, trying to ignore it wont fix it,, being 'reminded ' of it couldn't happen if it wasn't a fact of life and fixing it cant happen without acknowledging it,, or as you put it 'reminding' people,,,, I believe you have a distorted view of the history of this country and how it came about. Let's see... Declaration of Independence "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." Sure sounds divided to me. But then they had the Odumboites of their generation, the Loyalist. Weren't some of them hung for treason? Oh what a lesson we need to learn. so how does this prove my confusion about history? lol |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Sat 02/08/14 10:57 AM
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Black History Month is not about separation. All it does is fill in the gaps in the telling of history. Exactly. I see nothing offensive about it. It makes me wonder if we're going to see the same kind of threads during other history months, though. |
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Black History Month is not about separation. All it does is fill in the gaps in the telling of history. Back to the circle jerk statements, an opinion that has been addressed over the last 5 or 6 pages. 
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Creative expression. We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in. free to be obsessed too the good and BAD of 'freedom' The only "bad" of freedom is those refusing to practice it to a degree that they believe others shouldn't also. complete freedom is called 'chaos' so yeah, there are some parts of freedom that aren't all good but 'necessary' evils to maintaining what is good,,, |
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Black History Month is not about separation. All it does is fill in the gaps in the telling of history. Back to the circle jerk statements, an opinion that has been addressed over the last 5 or 6 pages. great, so the topic of the thread has been asked and answered and we can therefore end the thread , right? other topics can be created in their own threads,,, 
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You want to be equal but want to be separated. Now, that is a straw-man argument. Now that is a truly idiotic statement. |
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none is asking for 'privileges' what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege. And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States. we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white) and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black) why should that matter to someone else? So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American. Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with. |
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Creative expression. We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in. free to be obsessed too the good and BAD of 'freedom' Mirror, mirror on the wall, who obsesses most of all? Depending on the category, it could be I. I am obsessed with freedom and liberty. |
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none is asking for 'privileges' what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege. And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States. we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white) and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black) why should that matter to someone else? So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American. Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with. Is she not American enough for you for some reason? |
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none is asking for 'privileges' what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege. And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States. we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white) and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black) why should that matter to someone else? So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American. Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with. why not stop worrying about how I identify myself or whether I let you or anyone else verbally bully me into a label they prefer,,,, I am African American, my label, not yours your label may be 'black', and that's your prerogative as mine is 'African American' |
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I post these themes in an attempt to address the situation. In the old days, it was the white separatist movement that kept the hate fires raging. Now, with groups like panthers, NOI, people like Wright and Sharpton and all these extremists that believe WE THE PEOPLE owe them to sit on their deadasses, fanning the flame. If they accepted their place as simply, ordinary citizens of the US, they'd lose all their SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. why is it a problem for you though? do Sharpton or wright or members of the noi control the hiring in this country? or the economic climate? or the educational system? or the judicial system? why pretend to play the innocent victim of others seperatisim while continuing to imply and spew such negative hype about one group almost exclusively? why is it of any consequence to you what their experience or views are? why the obsession? Absolutely it does, cause and effect, inseparable. great so historical CAUSE can create current EFFECTS, that need to be addressed glad we agre,,,, There is no agreement, just an overly ambitious hope on your part. You are trying to twist meanings into something not said nor implied. History causes nothing, just documents effects. And there are no historical causes that need to be addressed. Someone needs to either accept or change the consequences of the past for the future and move on. To keep dwelling on the past except for lessons of things to avoid for the future is futile. What is done is done, get over it. But to sit here and dwell over the spilt milk doesn't get you a glass of milk, get over it and move on. |
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this says a lot "But that is not just to "Black History" but to so many other categories that remind us all that we are divided." division is the reality of how America was founded,,,, trying to ignore it wont fix it,, being 'reminded ' of it couldn't happen if it wasn't a fact of life and fixing it cant happen without acknowledging it,, or as you put it 'reminding' people,,,, I believe you have a distorted view of the history of this country and how it came about. Let's see... Declaration of Independence "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." Sure sounds divided to me. But then they had the Odumboites of their generation, the Loyalist. Weren't some of them hung for treason? Oh what a lesson we need to learn. so how does this prove my confusion about history? lol "Prove", why do I need to prove, you have done quite well on your own. I am just acting as the guide to point to the obvious. |
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history:
the study of past events, particularly in human affairs. "medieval European history" synonyms: the past, former times, historical events, the olden days, the old days, bygone days, long ago, yesterday, antiquity; More literarydays of yore, yesteryear "my interest in history" •the past considered as a whole. "letters that have changed the course of history" synonyms: background, past, life story, biography, experiences, backstory; More antecedents "she gave details of her history" 2. the whole series of past events connected with someone or something. "the history of Aegean painting" so, in definition 1, history doesn't affect in definition 2, history (series of past events) does affect and what was posted ", cause and effect, inseparable. " is therefore, something we agree upon,,,, one just thinking its only relevant to validate addressing the attitudes and ideas of individuals and the other thinking its also relevant to validate addressing the attitudes, laws, policies and ideas of a government or national culture,,, |
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But to sit here and dwell over the spilt milk doesn't get you a glass of milk, get over it and move on. should be posted to all the posts and threads about black folks, and noi, and Farrakhan,,etc,,,
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