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Topic: Adrianne Curry: ��Boycott Black History Month
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Sat 02/08/14 11:24 AM




Creative expression.
We are all free to be creative in the USA I reside in.laugh


free to be obsessed too

the good and BAD of 'freedom'


The only "bad" of freedom is those refusing to practice it to a degree that they believe others shouldn't also.


complete freedom is called 'chaos'

so yeah, there are some parts of freedom that aren't all good

but 'necessary' evils to maintaining what is good,,,


Complete freedom is not chaos until the sheeple become involved. They seem to become confused when not being led.

But a truly free person has a very organized life. They are free to plan and follow the path of their happiness and prosperity. Their world is filled with like individuals that are capable of interacting for their mutual happiness and prosperity.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:26 AM


There is no agreement, just an overly ambitious hope on your part. You are trying to twist meanings into something not said nor implied.

History causes nothing, just documents effects. And there are no historical causes that need to be addressed. Someone needs to either accept or change the consequences of the past for the future and move on. To keep dwelling on the past except for lessons of things to avoid for the future is futile. What is done is done, get over it.

But to sit here and dwell over the spilt milk doesn't get you a glass of milk, get over it and move on.


So, using your own advice, you shouldn't dwell on black history month. Get over it and move on, right?

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Sat 02/08/14 11:26 AM



Black History Month is not about separation.
All it does is fill in the gaps in the telling of history.


Back to the circle jerk statements, an opinion that has been addressed over the last 5 or 6 pages.




great, so the topic of the thread has been asked and answered and we can therefore end the thread , right?

other topics can be created in their own threads,,,

:banana: :banana: :banana:


Well if that were true, then why does it continue on? If it continues on, then there is no circle. If we go back and rehash the last five or six pages, then we have a circle.

Is this a simple enough statement to understand? Or is it time for the idiotic question in which case the thread is done.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:30 AM





none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.


Is she not American enough for you for some reason?


Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?

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Sat 02/08/14 11:31 AM
it continues because you posted again,, and so did Ilaugh

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Sat 02/08/14 11:32 AM






none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.


Is she not American enough for you for some reason?


Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?



so, if one doesn't know what another is,, why would one whinge about what that other chooses to call themselves?


laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 02/08/14 11:35 AM


Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?


What are the requirements you have in order for you to think someone is American?

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Sat 02/08/14 11:36 AM





none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.



why not stop worrying about how I identify myself or whether I let you or anyone else verbally bully me into a label they prefer,,,,

I am African American, my label, not yours

your label may be 'black', and that's your prerogative

as mine is 'African American'


I not only don't worry but don't really care that you are a contradiction in terms. I am merrily pointing out that there is no such thing as what you claim.

But if you prefer to believe an illusion, this is a free country and you may do so but do not expect me to agree with your illusion.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:41 AM

history:


the study of past events, particularly in human affairs.
"medieval European history"


synonyms: the past, former times, historical events, the olden days, the old days, bygone days, long ago, yesterday, antiquity; More
literarydays of yore, yesteryear

"my interest in history"




•the past considered as a whole.
"letters that have changed the course of history"


synonyms: background, past, life story, biography, experiences, backstory; More
antecedents

"she gave details of her history"






2.


the whole series of past events connected with someone or something.
"the history of Aegean painting"



so, in definition 1, history doesn't affect

in definition 2, history (series of past events) does affect

and what was posted

", cause and effect, inseparable. "



is therefore, something we agree upon,,,,

one just thinking its only relevant to validate addressing the attitudes and ideas of individuals

and the other thinking its also relevant to validate addressing the attitudes, laws, policies and ideas of a government or national culture,,,








For every cause there is an effect and for every effect there is a cause. Whether we agree or not, it cannot be otherwise.

And from there, I haven't a clue to what you are referring and after reading it multiple time, doubt if it does really mean anything.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:47 AM



There is no agreement, just an overly ambitious hope on your part. You are trying to twist meanings into something not said nor implied.

History causes nothing, just documents effects. And there are no historical causes that need to be addressed. Someone needs to either accept or change the consequences of the past for the future and move on. To keep dwelling on the past except for lessons of things to avoid for the future is futile. What is done is done, get over it.

But to sit here and dwell over the spilt milk doesn't get you a glass of milk, get over it and move on.


So, using your own advice, you shouldn't dwell on black history month. Get over it and move on, right?


I don't dwell on it, I don't honor it, and I have forever been over it. But that is not what this entire thread has been about, just the symptom. It is the concept that I have and always argue and will never get over.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:50 AM







none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.


Is she not American enough for you for some reason?


Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?



so, if one doesn't know what another is,, why would one whinge about what that other chooses to call themselves?


laugh laugh laugh


A concept you seem to have a problem accepting, there can be no conflicts. When a conflict exists, you need to check your premises, one is in error. A natural law of the universe, immutable and inalienable.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:50 AM
Edited by alnewman on Sat 02/08/14 11:53 AM



Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?


What are the requirements you have in order for you to think someone is American?


Which American? There are many. And you are twisting the whole concept not addressing the issue.

And I guess that pretty much wraps up this thread.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:52 AM






none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.



why not stop worrying about how I identify myself or whether I let you or anyone else verbally bully me into a label they prefer,,,,

I am African American, my label, not yours

your label may be 'black', and that's your prerogative

as mine is 'African American'


I not only don't worry but don't really care that you are a contradiction in terms. I am merrily pointing out that there is no such thing as what you claim.

But if you prefer to believe an illusion, this is a free country and you may do so but do not expect me to agree with your illusion.


Dude, when I am in my Human guise, I am a Scottish-American.

Does that make me a non-American? No, it does not.

Likewise, an American of African ancestry isn't a non-American because that person identifies one's self as an African-American.

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Sat 02/08/14 11:58 AM




Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?


What are the requirements you have in order for you to think someone is American?


Which American? There are many. And you are twisting the whole concept not addressing the issue.

And I guess that pretty much wraps up this thread.


What do you mean which American?

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Sat 02/08/14 12:18 PM
The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source].

So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized?

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Sat 02/08/14 01:46 PM





Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I?


What are the requirements you have in order for you to think someone is American?


Which American? There are many. And you are twisting the whole concept not addressing the issue.

And I guess that pretty much wraps up this thread.


What do you mean which American?


Wouldn't have a clue would you? Well let me give you one, Google!

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Sat 02/08/14 01:50 PM
True slaves are the ones WE THE PEOPLE are FORCED to pay maintenance for.

Some will call it a hand up. But they be hanging on and NOT doing anything to help pull themselves up.

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Sat 02/08/14 01:56 PM






none is asking for 'privileges'

what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION


I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege


if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present

and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not





How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege.

And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States.


we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal

I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white)

and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black)


why should that matter to someone else?


So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American.

Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with.



why not stop worrying about how I identify myself or whether I let you or anyone else verbally bully me into a label they prefer,,,,

I am African American, my label, not yours

your label may be 'black', and that's your prerogative

as mine is 'African American'


I not only don't worry but don't really care that you are a contradiction in terms. I am merrily pointing out that there is no such thing as what you claim.

But if you prefer to believe an illusion, this is a free country and you may do so but do not expect me to agree with your illusion.



I believe in social designations,,

like saying there is no 'poor' because we can come up with our own subjective standards of whether 'poor' has to do with money or not

lol

African American, its in the dictionary, look it up,,,

it is what I am and what I refer to myself as,,,,

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Sat 02/08/14 01:56 PM

The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source].

So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized?


What would you expect from the same idiots that passed Odumbocare? Oh look I bought Odumbo into it again.

And yes it would be the same thing, why are you suggesting that the Scottish are superior to the descendents from Africa?

I think the Scottish should bow down to our founders and thank them for a free country where they could honor themselves. If not for the freedom provided by this republic, would the result have been the same? Doubt it.

And don't expect me to be impressed with anything congress or Odumbo either does they will pay anything for a vote. Isn't it amazing what your representatives wont do. So glad I don't need representatives.

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Sat 02/08/14 01:57 PM

True slaves are the ones WE THE PEOPLE are FORCED to pay maintenance for.

Some will call it a hand up. But they be hanging on and NOT doing anything to help pull themselves up.



I agree, for those who are 'not doing anything'

of which there are fewer than the top tier wants to admit or promote to the other tiers,,,

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