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| Topic: Adrianne Curry: ��Boycott Black History Month | |
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none is asking for 'privileges' what is being asked for IS equality, equal recognition and opportunity in RELATION to the investment of time and energy spent helping to BUILD THE NATION I am really at a loss for all here who continue to harp on an idea that I ever suggested wanting some 'special' privilege if a culture is not a result of its past, why do we harp on 'founding fathers' and ideals? because ones past is infinitely the reason for ones present and the past of African americans was DIVISIVELY different in these states,,,although their contributions were not How can you say you are asking for one thing when demanding exactly the opposite. You want to be equal but want to be separated. You don't want privileges but are asking everyone to honor a privilege. And are you African or American, there is no Africa in the Americas. And more specifically, there is no state or possession named Africa within these united States nor even in the United States. we started out SEPERATED,, didn't ask for it, we are still working towards BECOMING equal I am African American, as I am not 'black' (of the very darkest color owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white) and don't choose to label myself as 'negro' (Spanish for black) why should that matter to someone else? So why not return to Africa and then you can have the illusion of having what you truly want, to be African. Of course they would probably object and just call you American, doubt they would refer to you as "black" American. Then maybe you can have peace and an identity you can deal with. Is she not American enough for you for some reason? Comprehend much, it's not up to me. I have not confused her with an African nor an American. I haven't a clue what she is and she hasn't been able to decide so how can I? so, if one doesn't know what another is,, why would one whinge about what that other chooses to call themselves?  A concept you seem to have a problem accepting, there can be no conflicts. When a conflict exists, you need to check your premises, one is in error. A natural law of the universe, immutable and inalienable. which premise was in error exactly? that someone here is whinging and insulting others for how they choose to identify themselves,, when the whinger themselves has no clue what identity that person is? lol we get that you went to school or can copy and paste interesting and complex theories,,,, but , really, it can be posted much more simply and directly,,,,,to get to the point so ,, the answer IM seeking here is an actual EXPLANATION of what EXACTLY I posted that was in conflict ? |
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Ya'll be free to call ya'llselves da man in da moon. Dats da country we lives in.
Ain't it great, ya'll ain't still in Afika rat bout's now? The dead white and Afican slave traders says ta tell yas, ya'll welcome. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 02/08/14 02:06 PM
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The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source]. So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized? What would you expect from the same idiots that passed Odumbocare? Oh look I bought Odumbo into it again. And yes it would be the same thing, why are you suggesting that the Scottish are superior to the descendents from Africa? I think the Scottish should bow down to our founders and thank them for a free country where they could honor themselves. If not for the freedom provided by this republic, would the result have been the same? Doubt it. And don't expect me to be impressed with anything congress or Odumbo either does they will pay anything for a vote. Isn't it amazing what your representatives wont do. So glad I don't need representatives. I think there are many representing the theory that the only way is the great white way,,, and that everyone else should just step in line, 'know their place' and be grateful to them,,,, so great to not have to think about not being black, ,isn't it? to just be an 'american'? and be confident that you will be seen and treated as such.... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 02/08/14 02:08 PM
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Ya'll be free to call ya'llselves da man in da moon. Dats da country we lives in. Ain't it great, ya'll ain't still in Afika rat bout's now? The dead white and Afican slave traders says ta tell yas, ya'll welcome. How can anyone here separate Africas history of which European and british invasion and slavery are a part of, didn't CONTRIBUTE to how Africa is right about now? yes, ID be glad to no longer live in the house someone burned down,, but even if I was able to then toil, sweat, fight, and have relatives die to get the opportunity to enjoy another home I doubt Id 'thank' them for it,,,,for I wouldn't need it if my house hadn't been burned down get it? not saying that it would be better or worse, just find it interesting that the assumption is always that its only the way it is because of its natives, and not because of anything outsiders did,,,, |
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True slaves are the ones WE THE PEOPLE are FORCED to pay maintenance for. Some will call it a hand up. But they be hanging on and NOT doing anything to help pull themselves up. And just when I thought this thread had died. |
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I believe in social designations,, like saying there is no 'poor' because we can come up with our own subjective standards of whether 'poor' has to do with money or not lol African American, its in the dictionary, look it up,,, it is what I am and what I refer to myself as,,,, But then so is ******: Origin of ****** alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger A mispronunciation of it's French origin which was so popular more that a century ago but is now taboo and considered offensive and vulgar. But that begs the point, just because it is in the dictionary doesn't give it standing above providing a popular definition of the term. But again that begs the point with the point being, are you American or African. So if you were a black person in Brazil what would you be? First they would be proudly Brazilian and then American or more likely Brazilian American, which is not a contradiction in terms. But thirdly, they would be Brazilian and dang proud of it. Now African American is a contradiction in terms that implies that being American is not acceptable unto itself but being African can't be claimed in all honesty. It just serves to maintain a division and most of the time that division is to maintain tension. All in the name of being politically correct and we can see where politically correct has got us. |
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Edited by
alnewman
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Sat 02/08/14 02:59 PM
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which premise was in error exactly? that someone here is whinging and insulting others for how they choose to identify themselves,, when the whinger themselves has no clue what identity that person is? lol Start at page 1 and figure it out, telling or explaining anything to you doesn't seem to work. There are 13 pages to this point and I have no interest doing the circle. we get that you went to school or can copy and paste interesting and complex theories,,,, Now I know that I have posted this before, I quit school after three classes. My first two classes I had marvelous professors but then reality caught up to me. I mean I was bright enough to figure out that to continue to study with idiots and expect different results would in truth make me the idiot, so I departed ways. But I do have to thank my sophomore English professor that completed his education at Oxford in England (where I was at the time). He instilled in me the process of finding one skilled in what I wanted to learn to guide my studies, but it was up to me to gain the knowledge. And since then the world has been my oyster and god I do love good oysters. So complex theories are not really all that complex, they just require a logical progression to master. But I do understand why they would appear so to you. but , really, it can be posted much more simply and directly,,,,,to get to the point so ,, the answer IM seeking here is an actual EXPLANATION of what EXACTLY I posted that was in conflict ? And it all started out that way but has ended up here. And our whole conversation has been about the conflict and there can be no conflicts. |
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The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source]. So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized? What would you expect from the same idiots that passed Odumbocare? Oh look I bought Odumbo into it again. And yes it would be the same thing, why are you suggesting that the Scottish are superior to the descendents from Africa? I think the Scottish should bow down to our founders and thank them for a free country where they could honor themselves. If not for the freedom provided by this republic, would the result have been the same? Doubt it. And don't expect me to be impressed with anything congress or Odumbo either does they will pay anything for a vote. Isn't it amazing what your representatives wont do. So glad I don't need representatives. I think there are many representing the theory that the only way is the great white way,,, and that everyone else should just step in line, 'know their place' and be grateful to them,,,, so great to not have to think about not being black, ,isn't it? to just be an 'american'? and be confident that you will be seen and treated as such.... And you would be in conflict again. Why is it that this hugely diverse country has black and everyone else but everything is about black vs white? What would be in error? |
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Black history (in the US) is part of American history. It should be studied long and hard, but no more so than our history in general. ...Claiming special privilege to race, based on sins of a past generation in the learning process of a new nation.... is not only stupidity, it is destructive ignorance most (thankfully) have risen above. We're all in this together! Choosing to believe one race of an entire diversified population such as ours deserves more, or special treatment over another..... that's arrogance, not progress, division, not unity. One bad apple can spoil the whole barrel if it is not removed. We are guaranteed equal rights for ALL, NOT some more than others! Thinking otherwise is part of the problem, NOT the solution! Black history can't be American history or more specifically these united States history. These united States are composed of a vast mix of different cultures and ethnicities all melded into one. Now if it is separated, it is no longer a part of the whole, but is attempting to distinguish itself as a separate entity. You can have one or you can have the other, but not both. That is the whole problem with this argument, some wish to have their cookie and eat it too. The only way to accomplish that is to steal from another. Division of the whole and claiming unification, just as dishonest as stealing. black people have had a separate history, making them a separate culture and a separate identity and the hypocrites who constantly gripe and insult 'blacks' realize it completely when it serves to fulfill their own ego and 'privilege' just do it my way or you aren't American,,,,,yeah right,,,,  EVERY individual has had a separate history creating a whole..... UNITED STATES.... individual states choosing to join a corporation of states. The gov't was created to protect the individual rights of those states, not control them. To say black history within the United States is not a part of the whole is ludicrous! You want special privilege for blacks for reparation of slavery, yet you want to claim we are separate in our histories..... that's ridiculous....absurd! You want the future to pay for a past you weren't part of, only related to, instead of learn from it, which you apparently aren't ready to do. That's like complaining of pain in a wound that has healed simply because you have a scar. We are so diverse in this day and age there is no purity of race as Hitler sought. There is no disparity of race except in the individual belief. Those like you who wish to keep it an issue are not helping the problem, the recipe is already blended! Do you seek to cut out the part of you that does not fit your racial preference? Where do you begin? On whom? Get over it. You are part of the whole with equal rights or you are seeking division..... basically, racism. That is what many here complain against, your views, not the race you claim to want to uplift. We advocate the uplifting of the whole, admit disparity of class, but you advocate disparity of race seeking special favor and division. You will NEVER get what you seek because most don't buy into your racist agenda. In that regard, I pity you, but not so much as to denounce my morals or fail to voice my dissent of those views I am not understanding here. we are talking about celebrating black history month. that's all. I also do not agree with the idea of reparations. My ancestors suffered in coal mines and ship holds also and maybe were not slaves but worked in slave like conditions. many of us have ancestors who were sent here as indentured servants - irish, welsh, which is basically slavery....do we all want reparations?...we must make our own "reparations" in a free and equal society. the challenge is not to provide reparations but to make sure we continue to have equal opportunity...but so what? it has nothing to do with black history month You obviously misread my content, and it was addressed towards another, but it basically stated the same thing you did, and involved another part of conversation not directly connected to black history month. |
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Edited by
Dodo_David
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Sat 02/08/14 05:37 PM
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Getting back to the original topic ...
Black History Month is a month during which the accomplishments of black Americans are highlighted. Doing so enables black American children learn that being black doesn't prevent a person from achieving success in noble pursuits. The month exposes such children to positive role models. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to black children having positive role models revealed to them, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to having the accomplishments of black Americans revealed, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. |
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Getting back to the original topic ... Black History Month is a month during which the accomplishments of black Americans are highlighted. Doing so enables black American children learn that being black doesn't prevent a person from achieving success in noble pursuits. The month exposes such children to positive role models. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to black children having positive role models revealed to them, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to having the accomplishments of black Americans revealed, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. Looks like you can move along now you have us all figured out there, boo. Does a pile of boochit taste different with sugar on it? |
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Getting back to the original topic ... Black History Month is a month during which the accomplishments of black Americans are highlighted. Doing so enables black American children learn that being black doesn't prevent a person from achieving success in noble pursuits. The month exposes such children to positive role models. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to black children having positive role models revealed to them, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to having the accomplishments of black Americans revealed, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. Looks like you can move along now you have us all figured out there, boo. Does a pile of boochit taste different with sugar on it? Was that the 25 pound economy size or the 50 pound sack he was a toten? So I guess that now its been served and coated, it's time to sign out and let them eat in peace. |
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Getting back to the original topic ... Black History Month is a month during which the accomplishments of black Americans are highlighted. Doing so enables black American children learn that being black doesn't prevent a person from achieving success in noble pursuits. The month exposes such children to positive role models. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to black children having positive role models revealed to them, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. I don't know why a white person would be opposed to having the accomplishments of black Americans revealed, unless that white person were an anti-black racist. Apparently some are offended when not everything is about white men. |
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Saying I'm a racist bc I choose not to notice color is racist. People have lost lives to tear down color barriers and now u want a damn month to honor u being black? Excuse me if I don't celebrate it. These "accomplishments" are great but it shouldn't be any more or less valid bc of the color of ur skin.
It all comes down to unity. Either ur together as Americans or ur not. We should celebrate all accomplishments 12 months out of the year no matter ur skin color. Racist my azz |
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Saying I'm a racist bc I choose not to notice color is racist. People have lost lives to tear down color barriers and now u want a damn month to honor u being black? Excuse me if I don't celebrate it. These "accomplishments" are great but it shouldn't be any more or less valid bc of the color of ur skin. It all comes down to unity. Either ur together as Americans or ur not. We should celebrate all accomplishments 12 months out of the year no matter ur skin color. Racist my azz So true! It is often the racist who complains the most about racism. |
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Word to ya motha
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The U.S. Congress declared April 6th to be National Tartan Day in honor of Scottish-Americans [Source]. So, are Scottish-Americans being separatists because they have a day in which their contributions are recognized? What would you expect from the same idiots that passed Odumbocare? Oh look I bought Odumbo into it again. And yes it would be the same thing, why are you suggesting that the Scottish are superior to the descendents from Africa? I think the Scottish should bow down to our founders and thank them for a free country where they could honor themselves. If not for the freedom provided by this republic, would the result have been the same? Doubt it. And don't expect me to be impressed with anything congress or Odumbo either does they will pay anything for a vote. Isn't it amazing what your representatives wont do. So glad I don't need representatives. I think there are many representing the theory that the only way is the great white way,,, and that everyone else should just step in line, 'know their place' and be grateful to them,,,, so great to not have to think about not being black, ,isn't it? to just be an 'american'? and be confident that you will be seen and treated as such.... And you would be in conflict again. Why is it that this hugely diverse country has black and everyone else but everything is about black vs white? What would be in error? you tell me? why is it that this 'diverse' country chose blacks to serve whites and be subservant to whites? why is it that this 'diverse' country focused on blacks with jim crow laws? why is it that this 'diverse' country focused on blacks for GENERATIONAL slavery (different from indentured servitude) why is it that in this 'diverse' country, blacks are consistently at the bottom of the totem pole in jobs, education, why is it that minglers continue to post threads regarding 'black' people , and aren't posed with this same question? |
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Saying I'm a racist bc I choose not to notice color is racist. People have lost lives to tear down color barriers and now u want a damn month to honor u being black? Excuse me if I don't celebrate it. These "accomplishments" are great but it shouldn't be any more or less valid bc of the color of ur skin. It all comes down to unity. Either ur together as Americans or ur not. We should celebrate all accomplishments 12 months out of the year no matter ur skin color. Racist my azz So true! It is often the racist who complains the most about racism. and about what blacks get,,,or do , lets not forget those 'real' racists ,,,,, 
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please see my race
it means you aknowledge my ancestral history, my cultural history, it means you aknowledge me , BOTH in our similarity and difference I don't want 'colorblind' people, I want people to see the color as much as they see the gender or the clothes or the hairstyle and recognize that it alone doesn't determine a place of superiority or inferiority to anyone else,,, 
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Saying I'm a racist bc I choose not to notice color is racist. People have lost lives to tear down color barriers and now u want a damn month to honor u being black? Excuse me if I don't celebrate it. These "accomplishments" are great but it shouldn't be any more or less valid bc of the color of ur skin. It all comes down to unity. Either ur together as Americans or ur not. We should celebrate all accomplishments 12 months out of the year no matter ur skin color. Racist my azz the month is not about honoring 'being black' that doesn't even have a real meaning the month is about including the ACCOMPLISHMENTS of black americans in the educational systems curriculum,,,,, |
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