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Wed 05/21/14 11:50 AM



Why Neil deGrasse Tyson Is the Lightning Rod for the Major Threat Science Poses to Creationists
Rational thought and evidence are the creationists' biggest enemies.
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May 20, 2014 |




Public education is a major enemy of creationism and intelligent design. Now the fears of these two camps are culminating around one person, the host of Cosmos, Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Intelligent design proponent and conspiracy blogger David Klinghoffer writes on Evolution News, the anti-evolution blog:

“Despite its increasingly undisguised axe-grinding, history-befogging, and faith-baiting excesses, there's no question that the rebooted Cosmos series with Neil deGrasse Tyson will be turning up in classrooms as a 'supplement' to science education.”

Klinghoffer offers no evidence of this, simply that a few teachers posted on Facebook how excited they are about showing their science classes the Cosmos series when it is out on DVD.

It is a safe bet to assume that the popular, critically acclaimed show will turn up in classrooms across the country, and why shouldn’t it? Tyson does a great job of explaining science so that everyone can understand what makes science fun and exciting.

Klinghoffer is off-base to assume this will be a “supplement.” Think back to your days in school and how many times a year you would have a movie day and watch a documentary about a specific thing you were learning. We can safely assume this will be the same case, and that it's unlikely all 13 episodes will be played for students.

Teachers should be excited about the DVD set and how it can aid in teaching such things as the cosmic timeline.

One teacher posted online:

“Cosmos will likely soon find its way into the middle school canon, and hopefully the young people of America will find deGrasse Tyson as charming as I do.”

To those like Klinghoffer, this is scary news: the last thing he or any of his colleagues wants are students excited about actual science. They want students excited about their dumbed-down, edited version of science, where instead of science textbooks saying “Biology” on the outside they say “Holy Bible.”

Klinghoffer warns parents, while masking his disdain for science:

“[…] Let me emphasize that I'm not here to condemn any teacher who uses the series in her class. It's not easy getting kids or adults jazzed about science, and doing so is a laudable goal. But parents should probably take an active role in supplementing what their kids learn from a 'supplement' like this.”

What he means to say is parents should erase the actual education their kids receive and replace it with the biblical nonsense of their choosing.

Klinghoffer has already publicly confessed on Evolution News that he pauses Cosmos throughout to explain to his son that Tyson is not often doing science. He even went so far as to claim he won't let his son watch the latest episode, which explains the Noah’s Ark myth. Klinghoffer explains:

“With past installments I had to pause now and then to point out to Ezra where host Neil deGrasse Tyson had stopped talking about science and switched to baiting Christianity. Last night's episode, number 11 of 13, would make that procedure impractical and tiresome.”

What is impractical here is stopping the show at all and explaining your mythology over scientific facts and evidence.

He continues:

“Casey [another blogger] and I were talking about where, with two episodes left and having dropped the initial pretense of a program on science, the Reverend Dr. Tyson will go from here?”

Science has not been dropped from the show. In fact, Tyson was explaining the origins of writing and civilization when he came to the Epic of Gilgamesh, the story that was later plagiarized to tell the Bible’s great flood tale. Though this is more anthropological, it is still science and does a great deal to explain the origins of civilization, as we know it.

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TBRich's photo
Wed 05/21/14 11:50 AM
This reminds of the time I once went 10 rounds of sparring with Tyson- I tell you that Cicley is one tough woman

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Sat 05/24/14 12:21 AM
You do realize creationist, the scientists that do research to support creation over evolution hold master degrees and PhDs from top universities in Geology, Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Astrophysics, biomedical engineering.

You evolutionist think you know what you are talking about when responding about a creationist, but in fact you are on a level of intelligence that we have already surpassed. We take the same science courses in college that evolutionists take. They are required by the university to achieve the degree. Its not all pick and choose buddy.

Klinghoffer is right, and Tyson is a little immature brat. Might be why his awesome career has now landed him on tv teaching idiots about inconsistencies behind ingenious rock layers, carbon dating, radiometric dating, biology, genetics, etc

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Sat 05/24/14 12:21 AM
Are you ready to chat, or just copy and past

TBRich's photo
Sat 05/24/14 04:01 PM

Are you ready to chat, or just copy and past


Sorry, I do have to show up for work every once in awhile. Creationism by definition is not science

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Sun 05/25/14 02:13 PM
some scientists with the same phd's believe in UFO's..having degrees means nothing. Creationism is a myth pure and simple. There's no evidence to support it, however there are tons of evidence to support evolution. The "theory" is how it exists, not IF it exists.
You can believe that the world's only 6000 years old, like the retards that started the Creation Museum does, all you want. The great thing about science is that it's not opinion but fact.
so...Jerry...while you and your ilk continue to believe in talking lizards, people like me will stick to the evidence.

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Sun 05/25/14 02:20 PM

some scientists with the same phd's believe in UFO's..having degrees means nothing. Creationism is a myth pure and simple. There's no evidence to support it, however there are tons of evidence to support evolution. The "theory" is how it exists, not IF it exists.
You can believe that the world's only 6000 years old, like the retards that started the Creation Museum does, all you want. The great thing about science is that it's not opinion but fact.
so...Jerry...while you and your ilk continue to believe in talking lizards, people like me will stick to the evidence.


so is it fact when new drugs come out that is so good for us, then kills us then we have lawsuits against this bad drug.

so I guess the science their is I think it will I think it will?


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Sun 05/25/14 05:46 PM
your reply makes no sense Miles..stick to the subject dummy

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Sun 05/25/14 07:30 PM

your reply makes no sense Miles..stick to the subject dummy


your reply says your IQ. not worth it. good day

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Mon 05/26/14 06:50 AM


some scientists with the same phd's believe in UFO's..having degrees means nothing. Creationism is a myth pure and simple. There's no evidence to support it, however there are tons of evidence to support evolution. The "theory" is how it exists, not IF it exists.
You can believe that the world's only 6000 years old, like the retards that started the Creation Museum does, all you want. The great thing about science is that it's not opinion but fact.
so...Jerry...while you and your ilk continue to believe in talking lizards, people like me will stick to the evidence.


so is it fact when new drugs come out that is so good for us, then kills us then we have lawsuits against this bad drug.

so I guess the science their is I think it will I think it will?




Your example confuses science with something else. Let us take Prozac, for example, Science says Prozac does not work better than a placebo. Greed says Prozac corrects a chemical imbalance in your brain and billions in sales follow

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Mon 05/26/14 03:11 PM
typical comeback miles. I enjoy having theists scared of big bad atheists. I'm not the one that buys into talking snakes and 900 year old men