Topic: Post your political pictures here
msharmony's photo
Sat 08/02/14 03:26 AM











we do , but for an unstable party having a bomb, or driving a car, or using a gun,,,,there wouldn't be the easily preventable deaths

but we cant incarcerate bombs, cars, or guns so



that's why the world regulates who can have bombs(and what types)

and the us regulates who can DRIVE a vehicle (and standards for vehicles available to drive)

and, well, should follow suit with who should have guns

InvictusV's photo
Sat 08/02/14 04:11 PM

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 08/03/14 02:43 AM












we do , but for an unstable party having a bomb, or driving a car, or using a gun,,,,there wouldn't be the easily preventable deaths

but we cant incarcerate bombs, cars, or guns so



that's why the world regulates who can have bombs(and what types)

and the us regulates who can DRIVE a vehicle (and standards for vehicles available to drive)

and, well, should follow suit with who should have guns

you really ought to read up on Rights and Privileges!
The 2nd is a Right,and the Article specifically states that it ought not to be infringed on,which mean,The Body Public it to keep its grubby Fingers away!

There is no such Amendment on driving a Car in the Constitution,only on the Right to bear Arms!
And it is inherent in the Individual,NOT granted by Government!

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not
be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and
young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep
and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as
are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed,
or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for
the important end to be attained: the rearing up and
qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to
the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law,
State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and
void, which contravenes this right.

Georgia Court Decision
Nunn vs. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846)


We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion:
the stage where the government is free to do anything it
pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission;
which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history,
the stage of rule by brute force.

Ayn Rand (1905-1982)
The Nature of Government


are you going to enable them?


The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of
himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it
from the State government. It is one of the "high powers"
delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of
the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to
infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and
independent of the lawmaking power.

Texas Court Decision
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 08/03/14 04:14 PM

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/04/14 03:49 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 08/04/14 03:53 AM




metalwing's photo
Mon 08/04/14 06:14 AM

metalwing's photo
Mon 08/04/14 06:15 AM
Edited by metalwing on Mon 08/04/14 06:20 AM

metalwing's photo
Mon 08/04/14 06:19 AM

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:28 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 08/05/14 01:35 AM







you really need to look up what well-regulated really means in an 18th century context!

As a textual matter, the Second Amendment does speak of the idea of a well regulated militia, phrasing which seems to at least concede the idea that the government could assert the authority to assert some conditions upon gun ownership by individual citizens.

Wrong.

The term well-regulated, in the lexicon of the late 1700s, meant functioning properly, functioning as expected, not the dictionary definition we have today. Today, the term means “tightly controlled, and is at odds with the shall not be infringed phrase found in the amendment. So no, textually the Second Amendment does NOT allow government to place conditions on gun ownership, as the Second Amendment is WITHOUT conditions in it's explicit prohibition.



and no obfuscation by anyone will change that!

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:32 AM
so, the founding fathers thought it necessary to point out that something needed to be 'properly functioning',,,,

lol


got it,

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:34 AM

so, the founding fathers thought it necessary to point out that something needed to be 'properly functioning',,,,

lol


got it,

you still don't understand!
But that's OK,doesn't really matter!

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:44 AM
I agree

it doesn't matter, founding fathers had NO GRASP of how far we would take 'weapons',,,,,

and the 'well regulated' meaning 'properly functioning' makes no sense to me unless the founding fathers thought someone might think they were referring to something that didn't function properly,,,

there was no right to a 'properly functioning' assembly...lol,,wonder why

Id be all for anyone having weapons which actually took some time and effort to operate, load, reload,,,etc,,





Conrad_73's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:53 AM

I agree

it doesn't matter, founding fathers had NO GRASP of how far we would take 'weapons',,,,,

and the 'well regulated' meaning 'properly functioning' makes no sense to me unless the founding fathers thought someone might think they were referring to something that didn't function properly,,,

there was no right to a 'properly functioning' assembly...lol,,wonder why

Id be all for anyone having weapons which actually took some time and effort to operate, load, reload,,,etc,,







the Founding Father didn't bestow that Right,they merely affirmed a Natural Right possessed by the Individual,so your argument is somewhat moot!

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/05/14 01:58 AM
the only 'natural' right is to live or die,,,everything else involves cooperation, agreement, manufacturing, or sharing with others,,,


so the whole topic is 'moot',,,,,

back to the pictures,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/05/14 02:08 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 08/05/14 02:08 AM


metalwing's photo
Tue 08/05/14 03:04 AM

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 08/05/14 03:52 AM


laugh

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Tue 08/05/14 06:30 AM





msharmony's photo
Tue 08/05/14 11:10 AM

metalwing's photo
Wed 08/06/14 06:30 PM