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Topic: Obama Hatred {KING}™
msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:46 PM
I understand that too.

Delivery is important,,lol

but Im still curious what King posted that's perceived as hateful of white men,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:49 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/05/14 01:52 PM
hmm,, sounds like regurgitated propaganda

which executive order is unprecedented,, exactly?

keep in mind executive orders are given to the executive office to manage the departments that they head , in terms of how the departments are run

they are not meant to be LAWS that extend to the behavior or rights of the general public,,,

only management policies that relate to how departments conduct their business and responsibilities

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:50 PM




'deaf ears' is actually just a sylloquism which refers to people not wishing to aknowledge , speak about, or consider something,,,


So, do you acknowledge that others here have legitimate complaints about President Obama?


I always have. I have never stated or supported an idea that the ONLY reason anyone objects to his decisions is his race. I have just been cognizant that it is, in fact, one of the reasons, based upon how the reaction happened when other Presidents made similar decisions, considering all other PResidents were white.






Now can we get everybody to acknowledge that this comment is true?

I agree with this statement. I don't think I would have promoted EVERYTHING that Obama did or didn't do. I just recognize when he is treated totally differently than when others have done the exact same thing.

Like executive orders.

Bush made more, but congressmen were screaming bloody murder when Obama said he was going to use his pen and phone.

And he only did that because republicans were refusing to do their job and pass laws. They just block ANYTHING he put forth.

Everything.

Since Day One.

That's BS, and they are in dereliction of duty, ignoring their oaths, and actively trying to hurt America because FOR SOME REASON they didn't like THIS president from Day One. And Mitch McConnell and Republicans cane out and said that their only purpose was to STOP ANYTHING THIS PRESIDENT WANTED TO DO.

Which is treason.

Because the American public ELECTED him to institute different policies than the cowboy, shoot-em-up, illegal war-starting, oil hungry, Hurricane Katrina fiasco, Dick Cheney military contracts, prisoner-torturing, couldn't find Bin-Laden and stopped looking for him...Bush Administration!

KING!


you constantly BLANK OUT the CONTENT of those Executive Orders!
That's where the Dog is buried!

Obama's Orders are UNPRECEDENTED!
Out of Order!

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:54 PM

hmm,, sounds like regurgitated propaganda


As if the Democratic Party never spreads propaganda.

which executive order is unprecedented,, exactly?


The ones that are unconstitutional.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:55 PM


hmm,, sounds like regurgitated propaganda


As if the Democratic Party never spreads propaganda.

which executive order is unprecedented,, exactly?


The ones that are unconstitutional.



Im not posing the question to a party, but to an individual based upon his individual claim

and Im still waiting for an actual EXAMPLE of the claim,,,,

michelake's photo
Fri 09/05/14 01:56 PM
Edited by michelake on Fri 09/05/14 02:08 PM
@ King
I agree with you that a lot of people made it hard for Obama to be in office.
But no matter if a black man is a president or not "Positive Discrimination". It does
have implications. You cannot put everything under the rug. Saying it is because of
the man his skin colour that made it impossible for him to be president.
When Obama came to power i realised that it would be nearly impossible for him to do
the things that he said and promissed. As we all know what a total mess George dubbya
left for him. It was funny because i recall that i was watching tv years back.
And i saw an African American being asked a question. The interviewer asked him if he
wanted to become president too. This man was just a pedestrian passing by. But that
African American man said "Hell no ! How can someone even do something good in the total
mess that the previous presidents left our country in now" "I would make a fool out of myselve"
and "I regret the fool that will try to become president now" I think it was in the period
that Clinton was being elected. These words stick with me. And i still totaly agree with them.
Politics have become a "Locomotive without breaks" It is so hard and nearly impossible to
stop it. The only thing that a good Politican can do is to slow it down. But that is just the
thing that i do not see Barack Obama do at the moment. It just seems that things are just
going the way they went before. But slightly brought with more "style" in the way Obama does it.
Then his disgusting predecessor Bush. If you would have asked me about him instead then my
respond would be even more radical then i label Obama right now. Sorry for the rant but i cannot
even look at Bush and divert my face in total disgust. But that is off course my opinon.
I realise that it would not be a "picnic" for Obama to be president. But on the other hand.
Being president of the USA must have it's "perk's " too right ? So sitting on this mount of "power"
must give him some tools for operating. I simply cannot deny that. But i saw Obama as someone
that was a "hero of the people" That was the only one that did not have an absurd amount of
"sponsor money"to come to be president that he is now. But despite that i see that people have even
fewer rights. And that their resources of a normal life get slowly depleted under Obama his "watch"

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:01 PM



hmm,, sounds like regurgitated propaganda


As if the Democratic Party never spreads propaganda.

which executive order is unprecedented,, exactly?


The ones that are unconstitutional.



Im not posing the question to a party, but to an individual based upon his individual claim

and Im still waiting for an actual EXAMPLE of the claim,,,,


Then check out the reason why the U.S. House of Representatives has decided to sue President Obama for violating the U.S. Constitution.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:03 PM
I appreciate the view Micehela

I too would never want to be President because of the incredible sacrifice and scrutiny,, even with the perks, it wouldn't be worth it TO ME

and I certainly know that all presidents are met with objection and disapproval, they are no more capable of pleasing everybody than you and I are

but I do believe the particularly specific racial history of the US did cause a logical presupposition that it would be even more difficult on him, and he would face much more scrutiny and disrespect

I know that people have overcome and succeeded in SPITE of that racial history and the resulting discrepancies, and I had hope that Obama would be one of them

in many ways, I think he has,, and in some ways I think he has not


Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:10 PM

but I do believe the particularly specific racial history of the US did cause a logical presupposition that it would be even more difficult on him, and he would face much more scrutiny and disrespect


... just as plenty of Americans knew ahead of time that if they ever criticized Pres. Obama's work as POTUS, then they would be accused of racism, even if their criticism had nothing to do with race.

michelake's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:15 PM
I totally agree with you msharmony

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:23 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 09/05/14 02:23 PM



hmm,, sounds like regurgitated propaganda


As if the Democratic Party never spreads propaganda.

which executive order is unprecedented,, exactly?


The ones that are unconstitutional.



Im not posing the question to a party, but to an individual based upon his individual claim

and Im still waiting for an actual EXAMPLE of the claim,,,,


Releasing those Senior Talibans,for starters!laugh

The latest controversy surrounding the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has given those proponents even more ammunition to use against Obama. It has also brought new voices in favor of impeachment to the debate.



Among those are former U.S. Army Lt. Col. Allen West, who explained Tuesday why he feels the circumstances surrounding Bergdahl's release from Taliban custody likely warrant impeachment. He listed a number of factors that helped him reach this opinion.

First, he explained that Obama unilaterally declared unconstitutional a measure he himself signed into law requiring he give 30 days notice to Congress before releasing Guantanamo Bay prisoners.

Once again Obama used selective discretion as to what law he feels he must adhere to in this case it has severe ramifications for our national security, West wrote.

The White House negotiated with the Taliban, he continued, which is a non-state, non-uniform terrorist organization.

Furthermore, when choosing which five terrorists he would allow to be exchanged for Bergdahl, West noted he picked a quintet of the most dangerous terrorists in the facility.

There are some 141 detainees at GITMO, he wrote.The five released were senior Taliban officials, basically members of Mullah Omars inner circle. If we wanted to release detainees in exchange for Bergahl, there were many others to choose from. Why these?

The recidivism rate among released terrorists has doubled, he wrote; and even administration sources up to and including Obama admit these five released prisoners pose a real threat to American safety.

In exchange for setting such dangerous individuals free, West concluded that America received in return a deserter, who by his own self-proclamation harbors anti-American sentiments.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:28 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 09/05/14 02:34 PM

@ King
I agree with you that a lot of people made it hard for Obama to be in office.
But no matter if a black man is a president or not "Positive Discrimination". It does
have implications. You cannot put everything under the rug. Saying it is because of
the man his skin colour that made it impossible for him to be president.
When Obama came to power i realised that it would be nearly impossible for him to do
the things that he said and promissed. As we all know what a total mess George dubbya
left for him. It was funny because i recall that i was watching tv years back.
And i saw an African American being asked a question. The interviewer asked him if he
wanted to become president too. This man was just a pedestrian passing by. But that
African American man said "Hell no ! How can someone even do something good in the total
mess that the previous presidents left our country in now" "I would make a fool out of myselve"
and "I regret the fool that will try to become president now" I think it was in the period
that Clinton was being elected. These words stick with me. And i still totaly agree with them.
Politics have become a "Locomotive without breaks" It is so hard and nearly impossible to
stop it. The only thing that a good Politican can do is to slow it down. But that is just the
thing that i do not see Barack Obama do at the moment. It just seems that things are just
going the way they went before. But slightly brought with more "style" in the way Obama does it.
Then his disgusting predecessor Bush. If you would have asked me about him instead then my
respond would be even more radical then i label Obama right now. Sorry for the rant but i cannot
even look at Bush and divert my face in total disgust. But that is off course my opinon.
I realise that it would not be a "picnic" for Obama to be president. But on the other hand.
Being president of the USA must have it's "perk's " too right ? So sitting on this mount of "power"
must give him some tools for operating. I simply cannot deny that. But i saw Obama as someone
that was a "hero of the people" That was the only one that did not have an absurd amount of
"sponsor money"to come to be president that he is now. But despite that i see that people have even
fewer rights. And that their resources of a normal life get slowly depleted under Obama his "watch"


I think you had better search around as to the Shenanigans Obama and his Gang used to finance the Campaign!laugh

So much for that "Hero Of The People"!
I like the Sound of that!
Sounds so Socialist,or should I say Statist?

A Hero of the People he definitely is not!

Google SOROS + OBAMA.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:31 PM


but I do believe the particularly specific racial history of the US did cause a logical presupposition that it would be even more difficult on him, and he would face much more scrutiny and disrespect


... just as plenty of Americans knew ahead of time that if they ever criticized Pres. Obama's work as POTUS, then they would be accused of racism, even if their criticism had nothing to do with race.


that is EQUALLY True

because there would be racists opposing him at every turn, many who were opposing him would be perceived as racist

much like because there are many liberal talking heads for the democratic party, many who choose democrat will be perceived as liberal



michelake's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:31 PM
Edited by michelake on Fri 09/05/14 02:36 PM
@ Conrad_73
"Sounds so Socialist,or should I say Statist? "

It sounds like anything you would like it to sound like

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:35 PM



but I do believe the particularly specific racial history of the US did cause a logical presupposition that it would be even more difficult on him, and he would face much more scrutiny and disrespect


... just as plenty of Americans knew ahead of time that if they ever criticized Pres. Obama's work as POTUS, then they would be accused of racism, even if their criticism had nothing to do with race.


that is EQUALLY True

because there would be racists opposing him at every turn, many who were opposing him would be perceived as racist

much like because there are many liberal talking heads for the democratic party, many who choose democrat will be perceived as liberal


That is why I never assume that a Democrat is a liberal.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:38 PM




but I do believe the particularly specific racial history of the US did cause a logical presupposition that it would be even more difficult on him, and he would face much more scrutiny and disrespect


... just as plenty of Americans knew ahead of time that if they ever criticized Pres. Obama's work as POTUS, then they would be accused of racism, even if their criticism had nothing to do with race.


that is EQUALLY True

because there would be racists opposing him at every turn, many who were opposing him would be perceived as racist

much like because there are many liberal talking heads for the democratic party, many who choose democrat will be perceived as liberal


That is why I never assume that a Democrat is a liberal.


I cant say the same about americans being racist,,,

but I don't assume republicans are all BLATANTLY racist,,,lol

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:39 PM

@ Conrad_73
"Sounds so Socialist,or should I say Statist? "

It sounds like anything you would like it to sound like


lol, great answer

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:46 PM

That is why I never assume that a Democrat is a liberal.

I cant say the same about americans being racist,,

So, in your opinion, all Democrat Americans are racists, eh?

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:50 PM


That is why I never assume that a Democrat is a liberal.

I cant say the same about americans being racist,,

So, in your opinion, all Democrat Americans are racists, eh?


no, I do believe there is the small exception that holds no implicit racism,, just like I believe/know a small percentage of humans are hermaphrodites

but just like I usually presume someone to be either male or female, but if I notice ample boobage, more likely female

I presume people are racist or not racist, but if raised in American culture, more likely racist

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 09/05/14 02:55 PM



That is why I never assume that a Democrat is a liberal.

I cant say the same about americans being racist,,

So, in your opinion, all Democrat Americans are racists, eh?


no, I do believe there is the small exception that holds no implicit racism,, just like I believe/know a small percentage of humans are hermaphrodites

but just like I usually presume someone to be either male or female, but if I notice ample boobage, more likely female

I presume people are racist or not racist, but if raised in American culture, more likely racist


So, you automatically assume that an American is a racist even if the person has not committed a racist act.

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