Topic: Who Do You Want To Run For President?
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Thu 10/30/14 11:19 AM







No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.



In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.



Washington's Farewell Address 1796

And just what has ignoring Washington's warning achieved for us, why of course, a government of phycopaths hell bent on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Waging war after war, slaughtering millions of indigenous peoples for the mere cause of refusing to bow before us and allowing the "taking" of their property by our whim.

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Thu 10/30/14 11:28 AM








No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.



In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.



Washington's Farewell Address 1796

And just what has ignoring Washington's warning achieved for us, why of course, a government of phycopaths hell bent on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Waging war after war, slaughtering millions of indigenous peoples for the mere cause of refusing to bow before us and allowing the "taking" of their property by our whim.


Yea, quote something from back in 1700 when we weren't in a position to have to move troops and respond to attacks from around the world. We also weren't as big of a country as we are now or as big of a target. We also weren't providing humanitarian aid to impoverished countries around the world. Times change and we have to adapt with the time.

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Thu 10/30/14 12:04 PM









No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.



In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.



Washington's Farewell Address 1796

And just what has ignoring Washington's warning achieved for us, why of course, a government of phycopaths hell bent on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Waging war after war, slaughtering millions of indigenous peoples for the mere cause of refusing to bow before us and allowing the "taking" of their property by our whim.


Yea, quote something from back in 1700 when we weren't in a position to have to move troops and respond to attacks from around the world. We also weren't as big of a country as we are now or as big of a target. We also weren't providing humanitarian aid to impoverished countries around the world. Times change and we have to adapt with the time.


That's all hype and propaganda put forth by the war machine you have fallen for, and actually bad for the citizens of the world, our own economy, and has gained us NOTHING while costing us blood and money

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Thu 10/30/14 12:22 PM










No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.



In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.



Washington's Farewell Address 1796

And just what has ignoring Washington's warning achieved for us, why of course, a government of phycopaths hell bent on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Waging war after war, slaughtering millions of indigenous peoples for the mere cause of refusing to bow before us and allowing the "taking" of their property by our whim.


Yea, quote something from back in 1700 when we weren't in a position to have to move troops and respond to attacks from around the world. We also weren't as big of a country as we are now or as big of a target. We also weren't providing humanitarian aid to impoverished countries around the world. Times change and we have to adapt with the time.


That's all hype and propaganda put forth by the war machine you have fallen for, and actually bad for the citizens of the world, our own economy, and has gained us NOTHING while costing us blood and money


The War Machine? You mean the retired Officers, General's and other Enlisted men and women I know personally? You should look up USN Retired Commander Kirk Lippold, who happens to live near me and I see all the time. We wrote a great piece on this same thing during the 2012 election cycle. He has no reason to benefit either way and he has seen first hand since his ship the Cole was one of the first attacks on the US leading up to the war on terror.

Look back at Benghazi, look how long it took to respond. We didn't have a military base with at unit close enough to get a FAST team to the Embassy and they were coming from Italy! Imagine if they had to respond from the US, it would have taken twice as long!

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Thu 10/30/14 12:25 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 10/30/14 12:28 PM











No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.



In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.



Washington's Farewell Address 1796

And just what has ignoring Washington's warning achieved for us, why of course, a government of phycopaths hell bent on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Waging war after war, slaughtering millions of indigenous peoples for the mere cause of refusing to bow before us and allowing the "taking" of their property by our whim.


Yea, quote something from back in 1700 when we weren't in a position to have to move troops and respond to attacks from around the world. We also weren't as big of a country as we are now or as big of a target. We also weren't providing humanitarian aid to impoverished countries around the world. Times change and we have to adapt with the time.


That's all hype and propaganda put forth by the war machine you have fallen for, and actually bad for the citizens of the world, our own economy, and has gained us NOTHING while costing us blood and money


The War Machine? You mean the retired Officers, General's and other Enlisted men and women I know personally? You should look up USN Retired Commander Kirk Lippold, who happens to live near me and I see all the time. We wrote a great piece on this same thing during the 2012 election cycle. He has no reason to benefit either way and he has seen first hand since his ship the Cole was one of the first attacks on the US leading up to the war on terror.

Look back at Benghazi, look how long it took to respond. We didn't have a military base with at unit close enough to get a FAST team to the Embassy and they were coming from Italy! Imagine if they had to respond from the US, it would have taken twice as long!


The war machine.... Raytheon, Haliburton, Boing, Goodyear, Standard Oil, Dow, the Federal reserve, wall street, and the rest of the corporations who profit from war on the backs of we the people and our children.

You're not that blind my friend. Why do we always end up fighting our own weapons, training and money? Because war is the new US export! And strangely enough, the US Govt is our largest employer.... and has no assets.... other than what they can tax or steal from us!

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Thu 10/30/14 01:11 PM
oh, there be no doubts, when police are shooting to kill, and militarization has embodied our corsets, and thugs are roaming the streets, raping our daughters and son's in massive numbers, we ARE AT A PIVOT POINT IN TIME AGAIN...

but only small minds following others before them self for guidance, will not see just how PIVOTAL.

or following the talking heads who seek to exploit such situations for political strategy...

but those are easy to spot...

and then, the world is interconnected as no human alive now has ever witnessed, thus effecting each other the more to a exponential degree...

if one think it has seen "mob mentality before", it ain't seen nuttin yet...

the world is an emotional tinderbox...

one big enough emotional speark, and va voom...

emotions are being passed an added to each other exponentially now over the net...

sounds normal and usual, but it's not...

never happened before in human recorded history.

when humans converse, they ADD TO or DECREASE the emotions of another, naturally...

now all "kkk members" can provide EMOTIONAL FUEL to each other INSTANTLY...

hence group actions of thousands can be created as nearly INSTANTANEOUS.

what does one think the "flash mobs" are all about...

THIS CREATE A HUGE THREAT TO ALL CIVIL SYSTEMS.

why does one think the police are militarizing...

they KNOW OF COURSE SUCH THINGS, and so yes perhaps a few are over doing it in the developing stages, but superb new training methods of how to control the human mind for the GOOD, are already in the pipeline...

one has to realize the cops are scared to death of the potentials, as being addressed to them...

and the minorities are actually scared to death of instant reprisal without due process...

and nervous people do dumb things and make simple mistakes...

we now live in a world where just ONE WORD, can easily get one killed, maimed, raped, kidnapped, never seen again, to a magnitude not even comprehensible to the masses...

yes, we have a few rogue cops, just as we have a few extreme thugs with the do or die mentality no regard for life mentality...

and these have to be removed or they will fester and balloon the extremist emotions being fueled these days...

and that we see occurring...

and our borders are commingling like never before...

and then, seeing how this exact case, HAS NEVER EXISTED BEFORE, EVER...

HAS THE MODERN PRESENT WORLD "EVER" HAD 7.1 BILLION PEOPLES TO MANAGE?

has the modern world EVER put pictures of violence projected in front of billions of people every day for an entire generation before...

let alone two generations...

it has not even begun to be understood the extreme magnitude of effect this has had on creating the total emotional status of all human beings, and how much this has created the basis of what each deem to be "right or wrong"...

each day you will see more women that actually want to go to prison, because they "believe" they will experience the same "fun" they seen on the silver screen...

each day you will more and more kids smoking meth because they wanna FEEL, what they SEEN on the silver screen, in real life...

we are only basically in the second full generation of television and film exposure...

what shall be created in the days ahead, not a one in their wildest imaginations could believe...

some just don't quite get the EXTREMELY UNIQUE SITUATION HUMANITY IS IN.

it is a totally unique one-off time, no matter how brains automatically tend to mesh all times together as the same, since they view it from their own seats, through their own emotions...

that is the most important thing to grasp...

comparisons seem "accurate"...

they are NOT, AT ALL.

why does one think so many peoples can't seem to GET, or find, what they WANT in life...

and if one thinks those in management have what THEY WANT, one would be mistaken...

for if they HAD WHAT THEY WANTED, things occurring now would not be happening...

is it thought that all this was thought up in advance, by all involved...

since each has been born, ALL EQUALLY have been having to make instant on the fly decisions to only the best of their abilities...

and none without an instruction manual on "life"...

and that is ALL in the entire world, in all occupations and services...

and some wish to stand up, and shout from the rooftops how some be idiots, and evil...

these are following in the footsteps of but collateral damage in the end and newer beginnings...

all we had was comparisons thus far actually, and it was not recognized just intrinsically these were TOTALLY flawed, as that is figured out more each day...

for any comparison to be accurate, the emotions of ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, to the nano second in time when occurring, WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ***EXACT SAME***, to CREATE THE EXACT SAME RESULTS IN ANY SCENARIO...

but this is bascially how all human brains have been trying to decide their NEXT MOVE...

why does one think we have google glass, trying to tell accurately, the exact emotion...

the flaw in that is, the body language is NOT an accurate tell, AT ALL, but some seem to think so...

so this soon coming to be instituted in legal and policing and military is going to create a HUGE ERROR FACTOR...

SO MANY INNOCENTS ARE GOING TO BE WRONGLY ACCUSED OF EMOTIONS THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY HAVE...

i hope it is seen, that management only wishes to know who seeks to sabotage them...

so, what better than believing these tech corporations can assist...

the world is in for one hell of a roller coaster ride on the present course, no doubts about it...

we do not have ONE, NOT EVEN ONE, actually sustainable duplicate able accuracy in our entire systems...

hence, why we are seeking globally to swiftly on the fly get "mechanical intelligence" integrated into our civil infrastructure systems, for better accuracy...

so it has been as firing from the hip so to speak for all the world as one....

so forgive those who did not make choices that did not turn out in the best interest of ALL...

but then i wonder who would declare all their own choices to have created the best scenario for all...

please...

it has never existed, but the degree and harshness of blame and evil is as if it has for anybody...

so, if one be quoting others from different era's, such is like using the bible, koran or torah to rule the world now...

self guide in time of wise choices, could only most be, what one see would benefit ALL, for if one think it self wise, and it benefit only some, or only some certain demographic, or some certain race, or creed or sect or style...

wore unto these who were satisfied with but "feeling" wise...

make no mistake, each moment one "feel" wise, is one moment to know in ALL CERTAINTY, one self is not.

and sadly...

well, these have always been the most on the wrong side of history, and the wrong side of history to me, is one's family suffering at the hands of mercenaries, raping and butchering jihadist, and tyrannical wannabe dictators selecting from the heard the women of their choice...

so, all is not some self feel good live free or die bravado, as ego's do easily allow many to be killed or hurt in protecting them self.

at this point in time, applying to the united nations to become qualified as the first "global citizen" would not be a bad angle, as it shall be global management, if one actually just face it...

we NEED GLOBAL RULE...

we HAVE TO HAVE IT...

or all countries will decline in quality of life worse than what it is, and only increase in conflicts....

so wars will increase, as you see all around, as they have to, since there are way too many COLLECTIVE INTERESTS AT STAKE...

in my book, we need a global pardon for ALL, no matter their crimes, and a reset, a blank slate, a new start for ALL...

since none actually understood their own operating system, their own brains...

did any school teach kids how to operate their brains?

no, they are taught simply to obey the rules, and heed proper protocols.

and when they **** up, but yet all these kids are being chucked into prisons, many with hardcore offenders...

and were these kids ever given emotions training, to be able to withstand billions and billions of emotions being basically beamed into their heads via electronic visual stimuli...

the extent this has programmed in beyond human words.

it has indeed, decided most the outcome of the viewer...

older people won't agree with that, but it can be proven scientifically...

and then we need to have GLOBAL ELECTIONS.

ONE SET OF RULES ADOPTED AND AGREED TO BY "ALL" IN THE WORLD...

then ALL will FEEL just how AWESOME things can ACTUALLY BE.

the world is already and has been effecting each other already, in all ways...

so it only becomes a matter of WHO shall be on the global management team...

that is where the focus in my book should be.

one must nurture the tree of life at the roots, not moisten each leaf of the tree...

make it rain for all the leaves at once, and humanity will thrive as never before seen in all recorded history.

for we are history.

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Thu 10/30/14 01:16 PM
it just seems long...

don't worry, it my rant for the quarter.

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Thu 10/30/14 01:41 PM

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Thu 10/30/14 03:33 PM




I tried but it kept flippin over to vote for the Democrat.huh

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Thu 10/30/14 03:40 PM
hehehehehe...

solutions for all be just around the next curve...

ahead of the curve, never behind it...

where the most of mankind wish to go, and do, be the tell of where we shall go and what we shall do, so the true tell of the future, be easy to know long long long before it actually occurreth.

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Thu 10/30/14 03:54 PM

Yea, quote something from back in 1700 when we weren't in a position to have to move troops and respond to attacks from around the world. We also weren't as big of a country as we are now or as big of a target. We also weren't providing humanitarian aid to impoverished countries around the world. Times change and we have to adapt with the time.


Actually, we were in a great position back then, a truly free country with none of the political or war-mongering ties to Europe. We were free to develop into a truly powerful country driven by men that wanted to be free. And they came to these shores in droves, seeking the right to live their lives as they saw fit, free of oppression and taxation.

And you are sadly mistaken that we are providing humanitarian aid anywhere. We are just extending slavery and oppression. It is truly a psychopathic individual that somehow believes they have the right to dictate to another how they should lead their lives.

Too big a target, remember the crusades, we are now to live them for real but not as you may think. It is now a small enough world that little old body of water is no protection.


That's all hype and propaganda put forth by the war machine you have fallen for, and actually bad for the citizens of the world, our own economy, and has gained us NOTHING while costing us blood and money


This is a much more realistic view. It is all hype and propaganda for the purpose of extending the military industrial complex and bombs costs a lot more than bullets even though the government has managed to manipulate that market where bullets cost more than they should.

And this machine just has to keep grinding. It grinds up nations, it grinds up people. It just keeps rolling forward. Where there is peace, they introduce contention, where there is contention, they introduce strife, where there is strife, they introduce hostilities, ect., etc., etc.


People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state? Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.



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Thu 10/30/14 03:55 PM

The War Machine? You mean the retired Officers, General's and other Enlisted men and women I know personally? You should look up USN Retired Commander Kirk Lippold, who happens to live near me and I see all the time. We wrote a great piece on this same thing during the 2012 election cycle. He has no reason to benefit either way and he has seen first hand since his ship the Cole was one of the first attacks on the US leading up to the war on terror.

Look back at Benghazi, look how long it took to respond. We didn't have a military base with at unit close enough to get a FAST team to the Embassy and they were coming from Italy! Imagine if they had to respond from the US, it would have taken twice as long!


Yes, them, the enablers, the one's actually responsible.


The Painful Truth
The order-follower always bears more moral culpability than the order-giver, because the order-follower is the one who actually performed the action, and in taking such action, actually brought the resultant harm into physical manifestation. Order-following is the pathway to every form of evil and chaos in our world. It should never be seen as a "virtue" by anyone who considers themselves a moral human being. Order-followers have ultimately been personally responsible and morally culpable for every form of slavery and every single totalitarian regime that has ever existed upon the face of the earth.

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Thu 10/30/14 03:58 PM





I tried but it kept flippin over to vote for the Democrat.huh

stinking Voting-Machine!grumble laugh

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Thu 10/30/14 05:23 PM
I will vote for whoever is the most fiscally conservative probably. I would very much consider voting for Rand Paul if he ran. To me is a basically a libertarian pretending to be a republican lol.

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Thu 10/30/14 05:45 PM

I will vote for whoever is the most fiscally conservative probably. I would very much consider voting for Rand Paul if he ran. To me is a basically a libertarian pretending to be a republican lol.


I think that is backwards, he is actually a die hard party Repulseacon first pretending to be Tea Party and now libertarian, but no so libertarian as to upset the party.

Or in other words, just another psychopathic statist that believes he can be the leader and tell others how to live. He definitely is not his father.

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Fri 10/31/14 12:20 PM

I will vote for whoever is the most fiscally conservative probably. I would very much consider voting for Rand Paul if he ran. To me is a basically a libertarian pretending to be a republican lol.


Interesting concept but let me ask, how would you define fiscally conservative? Would that be stealing less from the sheeple or committing less fraud by not borrowing from the FED what could have been done without them?

And what would your version of fiscal conservatism yield? Would the government borrow less? Would the banks be restricted to a higher reserve percentage? Or would the banks have to only lend money they had?

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Fri 10/31/14 08:20 PM
Matters little, every sitting President has been dictated to.
The next one will be no exception.

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Fri 10/31/14 08:27 PM
wise insight some do have that few deserve to know.

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Fri 10/31/14 08:48 PM
wise insight given to those without wise insight sabotage one self, preventing any solution or better, and sadly create the defeat of that which did have incredible wise lazer insight...

hence, determining WHO one shall divulge it's deepest wisdom and lazer insights TO, become the ONLY & GREATEST quest and importance of the truly wise and insightful, who SEA deeply and clearly into the the troubles of the world, who revels in creating them, and the pain and sufferings it create, that few have time nor want to see.

for to SEA who loves to create suffering, be the only eye sight of MOST VALUE.

most will be washed away the very next tide, a wee wee itsy bitsy teeny tiny few shall create what none before cared about nor had time for.

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Sun 11/02/14 05:23 PM


I will vote for whoever is the most fiscally conservative probably. I would very much consider voting for Rand Paul if he ran. To me is a basically a libertarian pretending to be a republican lol.


Interesting concept but let me ask, how would you define fiscally conservative? Would that be stealing less from the sheeple or committing less fraud by not borrowing from the FED what could have been done without them?

And what would your version of fiscal conservatism yield? Would the government borrow less? Would the banks be restricted to a higher reserve percentage? Or would the banks have to only lend money they had?


More fiscally conservative would be not spending more than we take in. Almost no president has been able to get congress to do this. This is what he supports. Some of his personal beliefs are more republican, but most of those he says he would leave to states to decide for themselves.