Topic: Who Do You Want To Run For President?
TJN's photo
Wed 10/29/14 08:06 PM
Darryl Perry or Gary Johnson.

davidben1's photo
Wed 10/29/14 08:45 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 10/29/14 08:56 PM
if one has to PICK FROM, a list of MULTIPLE CHOICE, than the PROVIDER of the CHOICES, is that which controls the outcome.

simple logic.

if mother or father says, son, do you wish fires, or a burger, or a shake, self has chosen, and has VERY LIMITED control, of the total outcome of what it self receive...

but many a mentality used to being only given "limited choices", and then told repeatedly how THEY, are DECIDING THE OUTCOME, and how HUGE their ROLE in the matter be, can be made to *FEEL* as if it self be having "control" in the matter, and indeed it does, but only to a SLIVER OF A DEGREE...

but that's good enough for a humanity that thrives on FEELING, rather than REALITY CREATION...

and so, if it gets to "CHOOSE", from the choices given to self from the "PARENTS", those ABOVE ONE SELF...

it is NOT an EQUAL PLAYER...

or CONTROLLER OF OUTCOME.

a system built as this, only but beguile the beguile able, ending in no different results than a monopoly game...

the players of the game have fun along the way, until all players are bankrupted and broke, by the creators of the game rules, of course, as to be expected...

families without, not beaten by other players of the great board game as be the ILLUSION...

but real families lose their homes and quality of life by this REAL monopoly game of earth, none beaten by their fellow equal players, who started at the same points of inception, but rather, beaten by WHO CREATED the MONOPOLY GAME TO BEGIN WITH...

SHALL A PLAYER have equal opportunity, IF IT MUST PLAY A GAME OTHERS CREATED?

SO WHOMSOEVER CREATED the monopoly game rules and dice and pieces and money and get out of jail free cards...

was the true winner/winners, even before the game began.

and then, this system was named beautifully to control the "FEELINGS" about the game, being played by the pawns, democracy.

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Wed 10/29/14 09:06 PM

if one has to PICK FROM, a list of MULTIPLE CHOICE, than the PROVIDER of the CHOICES, is that which controls the outcome.

simple logic.

if mother or father says, son, do you wish fires, or a burger, or a shake, self has chosen, and has VERY LIMITED control, of the total outcome of what it self receive...

but many a mentality used to being only given "limited choices", and then told repeatedly how THEY, are DECIDING THE OUTCOME, and how HUGE their ROLE in the matter be, can be made to *FEEL* as if it self be having "control" in the matter, and indeed it does, but only to a SLIVER OF A DEGREE...

but that's good enough for a humanity that thrives on FEELING, rather than REALITY CREATION...

and so, if it gets to "CHOOSE", from the choices given to self from the "PARENTS", those ABOVE ONE SELF...

it is NOT an EQUAL PLAYER...

or CONTROLLER OF OUTCOME.

a system built as this, only but beguile the beguile able, ending in no different results than a monopoly game...

the players of the game have fun along the way, until all players are bankrupted and broke, by the creators of the game rules, of course, as to be expected...

families without, not beaten by other players of the great board game as be the ILLUSION...

but real families lose their homes and quality of life by this REAL monopoly game of earth, none beaten by their fellow equal players, who started at the same points of inception, but rather, beaten by WHO CREATED the MONOPOLY GAME TO BEGIN WITH...

SHALL A PLAYER have equal opportunity, IF IT MUST PLAY A GAME OTHERS CREATED?

SO WHOMSOEVER CREATED the monopoly game rules and dice and pieces and money and get out of jail free cards...

was the true winner/winners, even before the game began.

and then, this system was named beautifully to control the "FEELINGS" about the game, being played by the pawns, democracy.


Hell yea!, that's what I'm talkin about.:thumbsup:

davidben1's photo
Wed 10/29/14 09:44 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 10/29/14 10:16 PM
smiles...

don't get too excited...

as if such be as true, and no doubt it is, it means the game is rigged, and so CANNOT BE CHANGED.

because that which control the "rigged", has all the power, spread out like tentacles of an octopus throughout all the entire world, sucking up the reaps of the pawns-a-workin at the bottom on the "ground'...

what do people actually think the pyramid on our money is...

all the power at the top of the pyramid, THE EYE, controlling all the mechanisms of human living rules and parameters of change and engagement beneath it self...

it is a simple concept...

no different than the ceo of a corporation, reap the largest and hugest rewards of all the labors of ALL underneath...

everything on earth then can be seen to work as a "pyramid scheme"...

they are just not called "scheme", if they are approved of or don't threaten the LARGEST SCHEME, of pyramid based logic control.

or a system where the TOP, profits from most and lives off of the labors of all those beneath it self to the largest degree, the proportional ratio 99 to 1...

and it CAN'T BE CHANGED.

except if there was anything human that could not be killed.

any and all who have tried to change it either join up, and reap the same individual and some limited group benefits, or they are dead.

hello...

hehehe...

for of course, if any underlings rebel against the 99 to 1 ratio, they are conveniently removed from the game, by being killed, or imprisoned for some violation of the rules of the game...

and since the rules books are so think, miles of them unto the clouds, all are breaking many rules each day, and most don't even know it...

and won't...

unless they actually try to change the OPERATING SYSTEM.

you can't change the computer to something totally different by "amending" the software, you must install a new OPERATING SYSTEM...

or it will "crash" again...

but the "crashes" create exponential MORE WEALTH, for the top players of the monopoly game, putting more and more LESSOR COMPANIES, out of business, so the crashes are NEEDED, or let's say WANTED.

simple logic.

a very nice super cool self perpetuating self sustaining system

hehehe...

so unless we got an immortal around somewhere, it ain't changin...

guess jesus christ would have to actually be an immortal unable to be killed and rise from the dead before this big snow ball will stop rollin on down the mountain tops, mowing down all the sheep in it's path who are not smart enough and or submissive enough to join the rowers in their stooped over positions propelling the mighty ship of commerce across the seas of life.

it is just so so sad to see all the truly good people believing they are making a difference and arguing about the next politician to "elect", getting their blood pressures all worked up, and to have to watch this, is quite the lesson in self limitations, knowing all along how many are so totally deceived.

anyhow.

another day on rollin earth.



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Wed 10/29/14 11:50 PM




No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 10/29/14 11:50 PM

For personal reasons, I soooooo want Hilary Clinton to run.


NOT win...but, I oh-so-want her to run. pitchfork


Your going to get your wish, there is no way she wont run she is the current front runner of Democrat candidates by double digits in every poll.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 10/29/14 11:57 PM

Sarah Palin would be good for a laugh if she ran, but she's too busy being rich and famous to stop and run for office, again.

Rick Perry, too. I don't know any Liberal who actually fears that guy, contrary to the OP. We all laugh at that clown. Every one of those accomplishments listed in the OP were disasters. Guardsmen to the border? Fail. Sure they made it to the border, but without pay, and no authority to do anything. The people crossing the border weren't dodging anybody, and were actively seeking out Border Patrol agents. Were the Guardsmen supposed to be guides? They weren't allowed to fire on anybody not threatening them, so all they could really do was watch. Really, if (when?) Rick Perry runs in 2016, we can all shout his battle cry. "Oops."


So your going to laugh at a decorated veteran?!?! Shows what kinda class Libbo's have. Not to mention you clearly don't know much about Governor Perry. When he sent the Guard to the Boarder the intent was to give them law enforcement authority, but Washington said they would be federalized and sent back to base if that were to happen. At least he stood up and was a man. At least he tried. This smear campaign against him has to stop. Libbo's are scared, and rightfully so after by that time 8 years of the disastrous blame game. He just cant man up, maybe that why Michelle seems so frustrated lately.

The goal is to round up as many of the people crossing as possible, but the Guards main interest was terrorists and Drugs.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 10/30/14 12:01 AM

I would vote for Mortimer cause he has all the answers.bigsmile


Better be ready to put your head between your legs and kiss your a$$ good bye.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 10/30/14 12:04 AM

Colin Powell (But it isn't going to happen)


I lost a lot of respect for him we he decided to support a race baiting pansy in 2008........

Lpdon's photo
Thu 10/30/14 12:15 AM


How about "None of the above" on ALL ballots?


That's how you will get Skanky Hillary or Bumbling Biden.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 10/30/14 12:19 AM

Ben Carson?


He is a good choice, I just don't know much about his military and foreign policy :(

davidben1's photo
Thu 10/30/14 03:44 AM
let the hunger games begin!

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Thu 10/30/14 10:15 AM





No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi

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Thu 10/30/14 10:12 AM


How about "None of the above" on ALL ballots?


Here, here, I would agree with that.

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Thu 10/30/14 10:31 AM

smiles...

don't get too excited...

as if such be as true, and no doubt it is, it means the game is rigged, and so CANNOT BE CHANGED.

because that which control the "rigged", has all the power, spread out like tentacles of an octopus throughout all the entire world, sucking up the reaps of the pawns-a-workin at the bottom on the "ground'...

what do people actually think the pyramid on our money is...

all the power at the top of the pyramid, THE EYE, controlling all the mechanisms of human living rules and parameters of change and engagement beneath it self...

it is a simple concept...

no different than the ceo of a corporation, reap the largest and hugest rewards of all the labors of ALL underneath...

everything on earth then can be seen to work as a "pyramid scheme"...

they are just not called "scheme", if they are approved of or don't threaten the LARGEST SCHEME, of pyramid based logic control.

or a system where the TOP, profits from most and lives off of the labors of all those beneath it self to the largest degree, the proportional ratio 99 to 1...

and it CAN'T BE CHANGED.

except if there was anything human that could not be killed.

any and all who have tried to change it either join up, and reap the same individual and some limited group benefits, or they are dead.

hello...

hehehe...

for of course, if any underlings rebel against the 99 to 1 ratio, they are conveniently removed from the game, by being killed, or imprisoned for some violation of the rules of the game...

and since the rules books are so think, miles of them unto the clouds, all are breaking many rules each day, and most don't even know it...

and won't...

unless they actually try to change the OPERATING SYSTEM.

you can't change the computer to something totally different by "amending" the software, you must install a new OPERATING SYSTEM...

or it will "crash" again...

but the "crashes" create exponential MORE WEALTH, for the top players of the monopoly game, putting more and more LESSOR COMPANIES, out of business, so the crashes are NEEDED, or let's say WANTED.

simple logic.

a very nice super cool self perpetuating self sustaining system

hehehe...

so unless we got an immortal around somewhere, it ain't changin...

guess jesus christ would have to actually be an immortal unable to be killed and rise from the dead before this big snow ball will stop rollin on down the mountain tops, mowing down all the sheep in it's path who are not smart enough and or submissive enough to join the rowers in their stooped over positions propelling the mighty ship of commerce across the seas of life.

it is just so so sad to see all the truly good people believing they are making a difference and arguing about the next politician to "elect", getting their blood pressures all worked up, and to have to watch this, is quite the lesson in self limitations, knowing all along how many are so totally deceived.

anyhow.

another day on rollin earth.





That is indeed a sad view of things. You are saying a slave must remain a slave. But that is not so. This country is still a republic and not a democracy. All it takes is to not be a slave and stand for what is yours, your liberty.


Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
-Patrick Henry


Liberty or death! While I may not be able to control the later, I can and will control the former with the guarantee that I will leave this life a free man, just as I came into this life. I may be jailed, I may be persecuted, but I will never surrender the freedom I have worked so hard to "discover".

Yes, discover as it has been so cleverly hidden from us as slavery has been a slow and steady endeavor upon our inalienable rights over the centuries, even as the ink was drying on the constitution.




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Thu 10/30/14 10:33 AM
mrld :heart: blushing

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 10/30/14 10:38 AM
How about NOT having one?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 10/30/14 11:05 AM






No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.

davidben1's photo
Thu 10/30/14 11:08 AM


smiles...

don't get too excited...

as if such be as true, and no doubt it is, it means the game is rigged, and so CANNOT BE CHANGED.

because that which control the "rigged", has all the power, spread out like tentacles of an octopus throughout all the entire world, sucking up the reaps of the pawns-a-workin at the bottom on the "ground'...

what do people actually think the pyramid on our money is...

all the power at the top of the pyramid, THE EYE, controlling all the mechanisms of human living rules and parameters of change and engagement beneath it self...

it is a simple concept...

no different than the ceo of a corporation, reap the largest and hugest rewards of all the labors of ALL underneath...

everything on earth then can be seen to work as a "pyramid scheme"...

they are just not called "scheme", if they are approved of or don't threaten the LARGEST SCHEME, of pyramid based logic control.

or a system where the TOP, profits from most and lives off of the labors of all those beneath it self to the largest degree, the proportional ratio 99 to 1...

and it CAN'T BE CHANGED.

except if there was anything human that could not be killed.

any and all who have tried to change it either join up, and reap the same individual and some limited group benefits, or they are dead.

hello...

hehehe...

for of course, if any underlings rebel against the 99 to 1 ratio, they are conveniently removed from the game, by being killed, or imprisoned for some violation of the rules of the game...

and since the rules books are so think, miles of them unto the clouds, all are breaking many rules each day, and most don't even know it...

and won't...

unless they actually try to change the OPERATING SYSTEM.

you can't change the computer to something totally different by "amending" the software, you must install a new OPERATING SYSTEM...

or it will "crash" again...

but the "crashes" create exponential MORE WEALTH, for the top players of the monopoly game, putting more and more LESSOR COMPANIES, out of business, so the crashes are NEEDED, or let's say WANTED.

simple logic.

a very nice super cool self perpetuating self sustaining system

hehehe...

so unless we got an immortal around somewhere, it ain't changin...

guess jesus christ would have to actually be an immortal unable to be killed and rise from the dead before this big snow ball will stop rollin on down the mountain tops, mowing down all the sheep in it's path who are not smart enough and or submissive enough to join the rowers in their stooped over positions propelling the mighty ship of commerce across the seas of life.

it is just so so sad to see all the truly good people believing they are making a difference and arguing about the next politician to "elect", getting their blood pressures all worked up, and to have to watch this, is quite the lesson in self limitations, knowing all along how many are so totally deceived.

anyhow.

another day on rollin earth.





That is indeed a sad view of things. You are saying a slave must remain a slave. But that is not so. This country is still a republic and not a democracy. All it takes is to not be a slave and stand for what is yours, your liberty.


Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
-Patrick Henry


Liberty or death! While I may not be able to control the later, I can and will control the former with the guarantee that I will leave this life a free man, just as I came into this life. I may be jailed, I may be persecuted, but I will never surrender the freedom I have worked so hard to "discover".

Yes, discover as it has been so cleverly hidden from us as slavery has been a slow and steady endeavor upon our inalienable rights over the centuries, even as the ink was drying on the constitution.






me believes you takin it way too seriously...

my post is to make one but think for it self...

not quote others...

nearly everything you post are quotes from other people...

how can one be using it's own intellect to logically access wise moves to protect it's loved one's, if one be following other people who lived and spoke such things in a completely and totally different era and environment, when the minds of mankind have advanced many years since then...

such quotes are irrelevant to what be today, as far as using them to decide one's own actions...

and i don't think it is "sad"...

such may make you feel "sad"...

the world is simply in birth pains...

it is precisely as it is supposed to be to me at this moment...

it creates the peoples of the world to become more wise...

to dig deeper...

make more meaningful decisions...

to choose wisely and carefully...

as did we think the decadence would or could last forever...

how is that bad...

and my goal is to not "live and die free" and all that jazz of the self professed hero's...

my goal is the protection of my loved one's...

have ya asked them if they wish to be imprisoned?

if they wish to be killed?

if they wish to be some bullfighter renegade screaming in the streets and demanding their FREEDOMS...

FREEDOMS ARE NEVER NEGOTIATED, BY DEMAND, EVER!

this be how I CHOOSE!

you choose as you may, and see fit for your self.

frankly, the words of all you quote quite appall me for their lack of insight and true wisdom.

they are all about some SELF RIGHTS!

they are all about ONESELF.

THEY ARE NOT ABOUT CARING OR LOVING ONE'S LOVED ONES

they are not about caring about ALL PEOPLES!

they give NO REGARD FOR ALL THE PEOPLES IN THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT ALL, and pit people against "government"...

all are born into their beginnings, and such has shaped all into their occupations and endeavors...

and none are EVIL, as some do so redily quote...

the first one to create evil to me, is the one whom even dare deem another first "evil"...

**** any who spew such regurgitated rhetoric...

anything new or better in the days of NOW, would have to be better FOR ALL PEOPLES, INCLUDING ALL WHO SERVE IN GOVERNMENTS...

frankly, these days i can hardly stand the word government, as it has been so maligned...

makes the peoples forget they are PEOPLE, JUST LIKE YOU!

you and all your quotes CREATE TWO sides, SO SPLIT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLES FURTHER APART...

we all know their are rogue elements within all systems, who have no integrity, and are yet to be brought to justice, and so muddle the systems clean and efficient potentials...

but those who do have integrity spread all over America and the world know this, and are just bidding their time for when and how to remove these who do not abide by the rules and laws...

there is only ONE SIDE, THE SIDE OF "ALL" who work for the betterment of ALL...

frankly, i prefer management team over government...

your words indicate a do or die mentality...

nah...

when cuba was going through the throws of birth pains, the wise one's stepped aside, and protected their families, and allowed the "gung ho gun slingers" as self declared hero's of freedom, who but wanted WAR, to make their own choices...

and did not allow that to affect damaging their most prized possessions, their loved one's...

and then these wisely negotiated peace and more freedoms with ALL INTEREST IN MIND...

it is more in these ways i choose whom i see as wise, and who and what ways are self defeating and as such, who has lost what they want and wish most, before they even began.

go beat on some tanks with a stick.

and DEMAND your freedoms.










Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/30/14 11:16 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 10/30/14 11:26 AM







No, I'm not ready for every military base overseas shut down like Paul wanted to do.


Of course you aren't and most likely never will be.


You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.
- Mahatma Gandhi



Your right, I NEVER will be. If we have another event where we need to respond to an attack, mobilize troops or provide humanitarian relief to a country it will take three to four times longer to mobilize and get resources in the area.


That might be true if we had an admin that actually responded to such requests or advices...... but not with this one, that's for sure!

Then again, haven't we got enough problems at home that we should, after over 60 years of financing, fighting for, developing, training and funding, leave the countries we have defeated and paid with blood and money to rebuild, fend for themselves for a change, maybe even support us instead of voting against us in UN affairs?

That's all RP ever stated or suggested. To quit bankrupting our nation and its citizens to prop up others who only want their hands in our pockets.... not support us

You've been mislead with "isolationist" propaganda from the war machine warhawks who only start the wars for profit.....while sending our children to fight them

Personally, I think we should pull out of the UN all together, end foreign aid, and see who comes crawling!