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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? are you saying i shouldn't be mad at him? millions of homeowners lost their homes,(because of him and his henchpeople) and he goes on the lavish vacations? it took two jets and a C130 cargo plane to get all his entourage to Hawaii last year? and he made 4 trips to DC after his family went to Hawaii...maybe the 16 trillion dollar debt isn't enough for you and obarry, but the rest of the country has had enough... |
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? yep,I am sure the Moochers pay their way! 
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Conrad_73
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Thu 03/26/15 02:40 AM
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Typical liberal. The government is the answer to everything, despite the private sector having built this country for most of its history. If your socialistic outlook is so great, why did the Soviet Union collapse? And I know how business works under the cronyist system we have now. But just like any liberal, any challenge to your views must be from an inferior mind, and therefore a threat. Yet, you're the one upset by your opinions being challenged. If you don't like me challenging your opinions, I would advise posting them where I can't respond. Who needs to get over himself? If that's the case, why do you keep changing the subject? Nothing I posted above even begins to hint that government is the answer to everything. I may have implied that your reasoning is inferior, but not your mind. For all the nonsense you've typed, you've at least spelled correctly and presented your points cogently. However, let me clear up something. Government only covers the job of enforcing the rules we all use and providing the commons, such as infrastructure and the money system. In spite of perceived benefits of privatization, government should employ as many people as it takes to get those jobs done. Sure, cost reduction is a goal, there, too, but it makes sense to socialize services we all use. Military, police, fire and, getting back to this thread, medical care. Ideally, we should have a single-payer system, to further reduce costs and even prevent the trouble mentioned above about those hospitals closing. It doesn't have to be about the choice of "take it or leave it." yep,as the Soviet-Government did! You are preaching pure Statism! 3/4 of what you claim the Government's Job is,is pure unconstitutional Collectivist Drivel by an Administration gone Bananas! Ha. It looks like you learned all you know about the Soviets from Fox News or maybe the Drudge Report. We pay for our Executive branch. If we paid more for it, we might get better service, but that's just the system we've got, now. I was born in the early forties in Europe,and had a Front-Seat watching the Soviets and their Satellites! Don't need FOX or Drudge to tell me about the Soviets! You are obviously barking up the wrong Tree! And I definitely don't need you to try school me on Collectivism,Statism and Socialism! 
Fine. You think you know because you watched TV growing up. You still type some ignorant replies. Where in the Constitution does it say that government cannot pay for the general welfare? Just because you know words like statism and collectivism doesn't make you a Constitutional lawyer or a political scientist. Where in the Constitution does it say it has to run a Welfare-Pyramid-Scheme,worthy of the Cosa Nostra? still trying to school me,Sunshine? 
and it seems you haven't got much of an Idea about the purpose of a Constitution either! |
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Conrad, I wouldn't take too seriously a guy who thinks Soviet Satellites had something to do with television. Then again, he apparently watched Soviet satellite TV, so he clearly knows better the greatness of communism than you,who grew up in Cold War Europe, can possibly know of the ills of communism.
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Thu 03/26/15 04:59 AM
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Conrad, I wouldn't take too seriously a guy who thinks Soviet Satellites had something to do with television. Then again, he apparently watched Soviet satellite TV, so he clearly knows better the greatness of communism than you,who grew up in Cold War Europe, can possibly know of the ills of communism. 
Got to love those ""Liberals""! BTW,SPUTNIK ONE had some nice programming! 
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. Maybe because the former President didn't FREQUENTLY take luxurious vacations to Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard or have one of the most expensive date nights in world history. You realize that President Bush out of HIS OWN expense paid to have a complete office set up at his ranch with accommodations and staff and security out of how OWN pocket? BTW, he still didn't take as many as Obama (Who by the way has broken the most golf games played during a Presidency). |
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? Actually no they don't, hell Obama would be broke. It costs Over $100,000 an hour to fly Air Force One, then when he stays at a hotel they have to rent every room on the floor and the floor below him. If it were coming out of his own pocket they would be staying at a Motel 6. |
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? are you saying i shouldn't be mad at him? millions of homeowners lost their homes,(because of him and his henchpeople) and he goes on the lavish vacations? it took two jets and a C130 cargo plane to get all his entourage to Hawaii last year? and he made 4 trips to DC after his family went to Hawaii...maybe the 16 trillion dollar debt isn't enough for you and obarry, but the rest of the country has had enough... What about the special military plane trip to escort the President's Dog to Martha's Vineyard? |
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? are you saying i shouldn't be mad at him? millions of homeowners lost their homes,(because of him and his henchpeople) and he goes on the lavish vacations? it took two jets and a C130 cargo plane to get all his entourage to Hawaii last year? and he made 4 trips to DC after his family went to Hawaii...maybe the 16 trillion dollar debt isn't enough for you and obarry, but the rest of the country has had enough... What about the special military plane trip to escort the President's Dog to Martha's Vineyard? i don't know about that, everything i've read says he flies with obarry... |
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Travel is just one of the perks that come with the job. Funny that Republicans weren't bothered by travel costs until this President. Maybe you should write your representative and demand a change to the executive compensation package, if it bugs you so much. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/18/139744854/obama-takes-a-vacation-getaway-or-gaffe Like Obama, Bush received criticism for his vacationing ways. But, according to Stanzel, the 43rd president continued to receive the daily security briefing from CIA and National Security Council officials; he conducted secure video teleconference discussions with foreign leaders, White House staff and members of his Cabinet; and he used the August congressional recess time to invite foreign leaders " British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and others " to the ranch to discuss world issues and develop deeper diplomatic relations. A typical "vacation" day for President Bush, Stanzel says, went something like this: When the president didn't have a foreign visitor at the ranch, he usually received a security briefing early in the morning as he did while at the White House. Then he cut brush on his ranch for a few hours. After lunch, he would receive additional briefings and participate in as-needed meetings with his staff. In the afternoon, he would often go for a mountain bike ride on the ranch or fish in a pond near his home. He spent evenings with his family. "Getting outside of the bubble of Washington, D.C., can be helpful to any president," Stanzel says. "A change in perspective is always welcome." But it's the symbol more than the reality of Obama's vacation that sticks in the craw of Stanzel and others. Stanzel points out that Bush took summer breaks on a family ranch in Texas and not a traditional vacation destination. Obama, on the other hand, "likes to travel to the upscale Northeastern island of Martha's Vineyard where common activities include yachting and wine tasting." So what? You're angry at President Obama for not choosing a ranch in Texas as his chosen vacation destination? Why should we really care where they go for vacation? You do know that the Obamas pay for their own airfare, room and board when going out, right? are you saying i shouldn't be mad at him? millions of homeowners lost their homes,(because of him and his henchpeople) and he goes on the lavish vacations? it took two jets and a C130 cargo plane to get all his entourage to Hawaii last year? and he made 4 trips to DC after his family went to Hawaii...maybe the 16 trillion dollar debt isn't enough for you and obarry, but the rest of the country has had enough... What about the special military plane trip to escort the President's Dog to Martha's Vineyard? i don't know about that, everything i've read says he flies with obarry... Rooms have to be found for dozens of Secret Service agents, someone has to carry a selection of presidential basketballs, and of course the family dog needs his own state-of-the-art aircraft. Arriving in the idyllic coastal retreat of Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts, Mr Obama left behind him in Washington DC high profile debates over the budget, government surveillance and his health care reforms. Instead, he will spend the next eight days playing golf, going to the beach, and buying books from the Bunch of Grapes bookstore. In the air he swapped his suit and tie for khakis and a blue shirt with rolled-up sleeves, while Mrs Obama wore a yellow-and-white summer dress. Bo, the president's Portuguese Water Dog, arrived separately on one of two MV-22 Ospreys, a hybrid aircraft which takes off like a helicopter but flies like a plane. It was the first time the Ospreys have been taken on holiday by a US president. More than 70 hotel rooms, each costing up to $345 (�220) a night, have been booked out for Secret Service agents, who took charge of luggage including two large mesh bags full of basketballs. The Obamas are staying in Chilmark on the western tip of the island, an area that is dotted with multi-million dollar homes. The neighbours include actor Ted Danson and the singer Carly Simon. On several previous visits the Obamas had stayed at the 28-acre Blue Heron Farm, but it has since been sold to Britain's most celebrated architect, Baron Foster of Thames Bank. The president has therefore had to downsize to a $7.6 million, 5,000-square foot retreat on nine acres which is owned by a businessman friend from Chicago. It includes a basketball court. As a result Mr Obama will be staying closer to public roads which will have to be closed as his motorcade heads for the golf course or bookshop. The Martha's Vineyard Times newspaper warned residents to expect "extraordinary and lengthy up-island detours". Local officials also emailed residents, saying: "Anyone aggrieved by this closing should email or call the White House." Jay Carney, White House spokesman, said: "Obviously, when you're President of the United States, you carry a little baggage when you travel. And that's true whether it's on a summit, international meeting, a domestic trip, or for a vacation. I know he's looking forward very much to some down time with his family. I'm sure he'll see some friends." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10236302/First-dog-Bo-is-airlifted-to-Obama-holiday-home.html |
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