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Is extra-marital affair a sin? "Our" problem lies in the deeply regrettable fact that whatever be the issue, we tend to drag 'religion' into the limelight. As for example, this particular thread was conferred the title 'Is Extra-Marital Affair A Sin?' and Lo & Behold: "Christians, Muslims & Hindus" were immediately brought into limelight. Sometimes, I get confused as to what to think of myself first: "A Human Being" OR "A Hindu"?  As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we?  However, you should remember to be JUST & FAIR in 'that' deal. If she does allow you to enter such a relationship, then you should also have the 'courage' and 'heart' (more appropriately: "BALLS OF STEEL"  ) to accept her extra-marital affair too. (You know what I mean) And just in case, you wish to keep such a relationship in the dark (i.e. in utter secrecy from your wife), then it would be reasonable for you to: (a) Ask yourself whether such an 'act' is a 'crime' or otherwise (instead of seeking public opinion) (b) Be mentally prepared to admit the fact that it could also have been your 'wife' in a clandestine extra-marital relationship. Good Luck To You! As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? That really has no connection to that which is being discussed here. Doesn't matter if they agree it's "ok" to step out. And no "we" don't get to judge anything as a sin, God has told us what is sin already. And this would be in fact a sin. It would be adultery no matter if the two partners agree for it to happen. It may be "ok" between the two, but in a sanctified marriage by God it's not "ok". I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. haven't you watched Adam Sandlers " Little Nicki"? His brothers came to earth from Hell and one became a Priest. His congregation loved him. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. It is done away with, nobody mentioned anything about the OT, not in the latter posts of the thread anyways. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? Please do elaborate. 1st you always talk about the OT being done away. so sin must of been done away also. 2nd it is from a movie. that I see as the OT being done away ,, Hense sin so his part in the movie when he said from the pulpit on sunday morning " Let the sin begin" is the OT being done away. How do we pick and choose what sin is? I believe 1st John says what it is. |
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Is extra-marital affair a sin? "Our" problem lies in the deeply regrettable fact that whatever be the issue, we tend to drag 'religion' into the limelight. As for example, this particular thread was conferred the title 'Is Extra-Marital Affair A Sin?' and Lo & Behold: "Christians, Muslims & Hindus" were immediately brought into limelight. Sometimes, I get confused as to what to think of myself first: "A Human Being" OR "A Hindu"? As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? However, you should remember to be JUST & FAIR in 'that' deal. If she does allow you to enter such a relationship, then you should also have the 'courage' and 'heart' (more appropriately: "BALLS OF STEEL" ) to accept her extra-marital affair too. (You know what I mean) And just in case, you wish to keep such a relationship in the dark (i.e. in utter secrecy from your wife), then it would be reasonable for you to: (a) Ask yourself whether such an 'act' is a 'crime' or otherwise (instead of seeking public opinion) (b) Be mentally prepared to admit the fact that it could also have been your 'wife' in a clandestine extra-marital relationship. Good Luck To You! As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? That really has no connection to that which is being discussed here. Doesn't matter if they agree it's "ok" to step out. And no "we" don't get to judge anything as a sin, God has told us what is sin already. And this would be in fact a sin. It would be adultery no matter if the two partners agree for it to happen. It may be "ok" between the two, but in a sanctified marriage by God it's not "ok". I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. haven't you watched Adam Sandlers " Little Nicki"? His brothers came to earth from Hell and one became a Priest. His congregation loved him. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. It is done away with, nobody mentioned anything about the OT, not in the latter posts of the thread anyways. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? Please do elaborate. 1st you always talk about the OT being done away. so sin must of been done away also. 2nd it is from a movie. that I see as the OT being done away ,, Hense sin so his part in the movie when he said from the pulpit on sunday morning " Let the sin begin" is the OT being done away. How do we pick and choose what sin is? I believe 1st John says what it is. That's what entirely the NT teaches bout, what Jesus spent his life teaching us. Sin isn't "part" of the OT. Sin is disobedience, that's plainly what the word means. |
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Is extra-marital affair a sin? "Our" problem lies in the deeply regrettable fact that whatever be the issue, we tend to drag 'religion' into the limelight. As for example, this particular thread was conferred the title 'Is Extra-Marital Affair A Sin?' and Lo & Behold: "Christians, Muslims & Hindus" were immediately brought into limelight. Sometimes, I get confused as to what to think of myself first: "A Human Being" OR "A Hindu"? As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? However, you should remember to be JUST & FAIR in 'that' deal. If she does allow you to enter such a relationship, then you should also have the 'courage' and 'heart' (more appropriately: "BALLS OF STEEL" ) to accept her extra-marital affair too. (You know what I mean) And just in case, you wish to keep such a relationship in the dark (i.e. in utter secrecy from your wife), then it would be reasonable for you to: (a) Ask yourself whether such an 'act' is a 'crime' or otherwise (instead of seeking public opinion) (b) Be mentally prepared to admit the fact that it could also have been your 'wife' in a clandestine extra-marital relationship. Good Luck To You! As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? That really has no connection to that which is being discussed here. Doesn't matter if they agree it's "ok" to step out. And no "we" don't get to judge anything as a sin, God has told us what is sin already. And this would be in fact a sin. It would be adultery no matter if the two partners agree for it to happen. It may be "ok" between the two, but in a sanctified marriage by God it's not "ok". I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. haven't you watched Adam Sandlers " Little Nicki"? His brothers came to earth from Hell and one became a Priest. His congregation loved him. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. It is done away with, nobody mentioned anything about the OT, not in the latter posts of the thread anyways. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? Please do elaborate. 1st you always talk about the OT being done away. so sin must of been done away also. 2nd it is from a movie. that I see as the OT being done away ,, Hense sin so his part in the movie when he said from the pulpit on sunday morning " Let the sin begin" is the OT being done away. How do we pick and choose what sin is? I believe 1st John says what it is. That's what entirely the NT teaches bout, what Jesus spent his life teaching us. Sin isn't "part" of the OT. Sin is disobedience, that's plainly what the word means. I did not know that. you could not sin in the OT. that's so interesting |
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Is extra-marital affair a sin? "Our" problem lies in the deeply regrettable fact that whatever be the issue, we tend to drag 'religion' into the limelight. As for example, this particular thread was conferred the title 'Is Extra-Marital Affair A Sin?' and Lo & Behold: "Christians, Muslims & Hindus" were immediately brought into limelight. Sometimes, I get confused as to what to think of myself first: "A Human Being" OR "A Hindu"? As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? However, you should remember to be JUST & FAIR in 'that' deal. If she does allow you to enter such a relationship, then you should also have the 'courage' and 'heart' (more appropriately: "BALLS OF STEEL" ) to accept her extra-marital affair too. (You know what I mean) And just in case, you wish to keep such a relationship in the dark (i.e. in utter secrecy from your wife), then it would be reasonable for you to: (a) Ask yourself whether such an 'act' is a 'crime' or otherwise (instead of seeking public opinion) (b) Be mentally prepared to admit the fact that it could also have been your 'wife' in a clandestine extra-marital relationship. Good Luck To You! As for 'Manoj', I think that's a question you should be asking 'your own self' instead of 'others' around you. And if I appreciate what 'LadyWind7' had to say to you (which, incidentally I do), then I'd 'suggest' you to discuss this issue with your wife & if she feels (out of her own volition) that her husband (you) are free to go in for an extra-marital affair, then 'we' are NOT here to judge that as a SIN. I mean why should we? That really has no connection to that which is being discussed here. Doesn't matter if they agree it's "ok" to step out. And no "we" don't get to judge anything as a sin, God has told us what is sin already. And this would be in fact a sin. It would be adultery no matter if the two partners agree for it to happen. It may be "ok" between the two, but in a sanctified marriage by God it's not "ok". I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. haven't you watched Adam Sandlers " Little Nicki"? His brothers came to earth from Hell and one became a Priest. His congregation loved him. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? I am so confused. I thought the OT was done away. over no good for us. It is done away with, nobody mentioned anything about the OT, not in the latter posts of the thread anyways. remember his famous words from the Pulpit? " Let The Sin Begin? The people loved him. He filled the church. I thought this was your NT Teachings? Please do elaborate. 1st you always talk about the OT being done away. so sin must of been done away also. 2nd it is from a movie. that I see as the OT being done away ,, Hense sin so his part in the movie when he said from the pulpit on sunday morning " Let the sin begin" is the OT being done away. How do we pick and choose what sin is? I believe 1st John says what it is. That's what entirely the NT teaches bout, what Jesus spent his life teaching us. Sin isn't "part" of the OT. Sin is disobedience, that's plainly what the word means. I did not know that. you could not sin in the OT. that's so interesting As long as we've existed on this planet, it's been possible. Sin - n. noun 1. A transgression of a religious or moral law, especially when deliberate. 2. Deliberate disobedience to the known will of God. 3. A condition of estrangement from God resulting from such disobedience. |
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In keeping with Jesus' own words, "'I've come not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it.'"
Also, with reference to this quote, please refer to (Hebrews 10) What needs to be understood is that a moral-principal never stops being a prerequisite of faith that supersedes mere laws. We've all heard the expression at one time in our lives or another, "Rules are meant to be broken... ! But, only when You've got a good reason to do so." We are constantly weighing the lesser-of-two-evils in our daily lives. Milesoftheusa has brought to our attention the (1st letter of John 3: 4) and related verses that are pertinent, too. |
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In keeping with Jesus' own words, "'I've come not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it.'" Also, with reference to this quote, please refer to (Hebrews 10) What needs to be understood is that a moral-principal never stops being a prerequisite of faith that supersedes mere laws. We've all heard the expression at one time in our lives or another, "Rules are meant to be broken... ! But, only when You've got a good reason to do so." We are constantly weighing the lesser-of-two-evils in our daily lives. Milesoftheusa has brought to our attention the (1st letter of John 3: 4) and related verses that are pertinent, too. In keeping with Jesus' own words - John 19:30 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. |
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And likewise... The very action of giving-up his life in behalf of his Creator's will.
Correct, this is its fruition. |
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And likewise... The very action of giving-up his life in behalf of his Creator's will. Correct, this is its fruition. Who said anything about "his Creators will"? Jesus has no creator. Jesus was in the beginning with God, he is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. The statement of being the beginning and the end shows right there his immortality, thus never being "created". |
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So, You chose to ignore the verse at Colossians 1: 15 and Proverbs 8: 22- thru to the end of the chapter.
Perhaps, I'll emphasize verses 22+23 then verse 30. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** ************ I think I'll just quote these verses at-length for all to read ************ (Proverbs 8: 22+23) / Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievement of long ago. / From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the Earth. / then I came to be beside Him as a master worker, and I came to be the one He was especially fond of day-by-day, I being glad before Him all the time. (Colossians 1: 15) / He (Jesus)) is the likeness of the invisible God, the first-born of all (God's) creation. |
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So, You chose to ignore the verse at Colossians 1: 15 and Proverbs 8: 22- thru to the end of the chapter. Perhaps, I'll emphasize verses 22+23 then verse 30. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** ************ I think I'll just quote these verses at-length for all to read ************ (Proverbs 8: 22+23) / Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievement of long ago. / From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the Earth. / then I came to be beside Him as a master worker, and I came to be the one He was especially fond of day-by-day, I being glad before Him all the time. (Colossians 1: 15) / He (Jesus)) is the likeness of the invisible God, the first-born of all (God's) creation. Maybe I'm missing the connection to your side, if so please elaborate on the discussion. Proverbs 8:22-23 22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. Notice "The Lord" eg., Jesus Christ. |
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The use of the word 'Lord' is merely a title.
It's also a title that's used today between Humans. (Watch An Episode Of Downton Abby) All is relativity, and it mite be more appropriate to say the word 'Master' or 'Teacher' with reference to Jesus himself, instead. |
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The use of the word 'Lord' is merely a title. It's also a title that's used today between Humans. (Watch An Episode Of Downton Abby) All is relativity, and it mite be more appropriate to say the word 'Master' or 'Teacher' with reference to Jesus himself, instead. Lord - To act in a domineering or superior manner. How would it be more appropriate then using the word Lord when in reference to Jesus? |
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I'm not arguing that... I'm just saying it's still a relative title of authority.
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I'm not arguing that... I'm just saying it's still a relative title of authority. And that's also why it's capitalized. "Lord" is always capitalized when in reference to Jesus Christ. |
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And that's also why it's capitalized. "Lord" is always capitalized when in reference to Jesus Christ.  What... ? So NOW, You want to be a stickler for punctuation ! ******************************************************************* If the truth be known... There's absolutely no-way of actually confirming what 'relative title' Jesus was actually referred to since the Aramaic was translated into Greek. There are 'lords' today that will have the title capitalized preceding the rest of their Shire or Earldom and their very names themselves, too. (Cowboy... This Is A Whipped Horse) 
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Maybe I'm missing the connection to your side, if so please elaborate on the discussion. Proverbs 8:22-23 22 The Lord 'POSSESSED ME' in the beginning of 'HIS WAY', before 'HIS' works of old. 23 'I WAS SET-UP' from everlasting, from the beginning, or even before the Earth was. I've just re-quoted Your quote, and (CAPITALIZED) all the words that implement Jesus as being subjective to his Heavenly Creator. ***************************************************************************************************************************************** This is also a great-example of where 'THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY' is, relatively speaking, greater than the 'lord Jesus.' Once more, Jesus did say, "My Father, is greater than I." |
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Maybe I'm missing the connection to your side, if so please elaborate on the discussion. Proverbs 8:22-23 22 The Lord 'POSSESSED ME' in the beginning of 'HIS WAY', before 'HIS' works of old. 23 'I WAS SET-UP' from everlasting, from the beginning, or even before the Earth was. I've just re-quoted Your quote, and (CAPITALIZED) all the words that implement Jesus as being subjective to his Heavenly Creator. ***************************************************************************************************************************************** This is also a great-example of where 'THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY' is, relatively speaking, greater than the 'lord Jesus.' Once more, Jesus did say, "My Father, is greater than I." Again, how can he have a creator when "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us in whom we call Jesus". And Jesus repeatedly states "he came". This displays a choice, it doesn't say he was sent, it says he came. Yes ocassionally depending on the context of the statement he will say he was sent. But Jesus came by himself, for he is one with the Father. The father's will is Jesus' will. And with having come in the form of a "servant" his father was greater then he. This is also a great-example of where 'THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY' is, relatively speaking, greater than the 'lord Jesus.' Your statement does not make sense my friend. "Lord Jesus" is "The Lord God Almighty". ANY time the word LORD/Lord is placed in front of God, it is in reference to Jesus Christ and thus why it is placed there.... thus why Jesus said stuff such as "I am the LORD thy GOD"... see the connection now? |
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And that's also why it's capitalized. "Lord" is always capitalized when in reference to Jesus Christ. What... ? So NOW, You want to be a stickler for punctuation ! ******************************************************************* If the truth be known... There's absolutely no-way of actually confirming what 'relative title' Jesus was actually referred to since the Aramaic was translated into Greek. There are 'lords' today that will have the title capitalized preceding the rest of their Shire or Earldom and their very names themselves, too. (Cowboy... This Is A Whipped Horse) We weren't talking about other people or other lords though. We were talking about Jesus Christ being Lord and the punctuation the scriptures use in the English version. Where it capitalizes the L on Lord when in reference to Jesus Christ. It's a small detail, but that one little bit of knowledge can make a word of difference in better understanding the scriptures in what they are actually saying. |
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If you are Christian? yes
but then again so is coveting taking God's name in vain not condoning the action of course but I am saying ..well ya know God judges that does he not? |
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Again, how can he have a creator when "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us in whom we call Jesus". Cowboy GH... If You claim to be a proponent of truth... Why do You keep quoting the same abrogated verse from John 1: verse 1 ? Why don't You do some home-work and find-out what the Gospel of John chapter one, verse one actually says. You want to assume the verse says the Word was God, when in reality, it actually is saying the Word was God's. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** I'll make You an offer Cowboy GH... ! Send Your mailing address to my Mingle Profile Page and I'll send You a detailed photo-copy from a Greek Bible explaining each of the words in that verse. Now, it's really easy to make relative comparisons as 'God' is mentioned twice... Right ? Ahh... But, don't be quick to assume that ! You're going to be very surprised to find-out it isn't so. I'll pay the postage to get it to Mexico, if You wish. 
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