Topic: She Hid Her HIV Status From Her Hubby For 5Years
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Wed 04/22/15 10:46 AM
Grandma and grandpa have herpes. oops

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Wed 04/22/15 10:49 AM
Edited by uche9aa on Wed 04/22/15 10:51 AM

What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
Ah! The hearts of women are ocean of secrets!!!! How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!. Thats just one example there for you.

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Wed 04/22/15 10:52 AM
Edited by debbie1980 on Wed 04/22/15 10:53 AM

debbie1980 stated >>>
here in the uk when a patient is diagnosed with a sti they are giving a slip(S) where a code is stated and to pass on to previous partners to contact the department, problem there was a lot of patients had one night stands and didn't have contact information, or some wouldn't pass them on.

this worked differently with hiv/aids. the specialist nurse would deal with that.


Something that my generation {baby boomers} are finding out that they were exposed to several types of STD's in their youth that lay dormant until their elderly years and then certain meds or illnesses will cause those STD's to 'POP OUT' and surprise the holy hell out of them!!!
20+ years isn't too long a time for some STD's to lay dormant and one autoimmune disease can throw that into a out break and then those elderly are going into their Dr's office trying to find out WTH happened since they've not been any where/or with any different sexual partner! Those years of 'Free Love - Rock & Roll' are coming back to haunt many residents in our LTC {nursing homes}...rather embarrassing at that age to be having that 'safe sex' conversation!


yes I can imagine that would be embarssing.flowerforyou

that reminds me of something,

so many people think their clear of hiv/aids, even though they haven't waited the 3 month window period. many had a negative result, but simply wouldn't come back in 3 months to get the accurate result. rant

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Wed 04/22/15 10:53 AM
So, did the husband catch HIV from his wife or not?

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Wed 04/22/15 10:54 AM

Grandma and grandpa have herpes. oops


genital herpes lol :laughing: :laughing:

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Wed 04/22/15 10:56 AM

So, did the husband catch HIV from his wife or not?
My guess is as good as yours

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Wed 04/22/15 11:21 AM
genital herpes lol :laughing: :laughing:

Geriatric herpes, more like.

The actions of the doctor are permissible, even with laws governing patient confidentiality. He told the husband in good faith, thinking that he must have already known about his wife being HIV positive. In the U.S., if this were a crime, and the doctor a policeman, then that would be called "probable cause".

Of course, the husband can hold some blame for being so uninterested in his wife that he didn't bother to find out about her condition in the first place. Assuming she was, in fact, TREATING her condition with these expensive drugs. If she couldn't/wouldn't afford these drugs, then how could he have known about her condition? If the doctor needed to give her these kinds of treatments in post-natal care, that seems to me that she probably wasn't treating herself prior to the birth (otherwise the HIV condition would've been under control, and the post-natal care unnecessary).

The wife... legally and morally, I'd have to put most of the blame on her. Being HIV positive is a condition which can affect anyone around you with whom you have intimate contact, from sex to giving birth to sharing blood. Even if she was not LEGALLY required to share this information, if she had any concern for her husband's or children's health, she should've told them.

Even if the version of HIV she has is dormant, it's still something that she should have told the people closest to her, because of the possible consequences down the road, or because of how it might react with different body chemistry. What if the husband had another condition which would've been made worse with HIV? Does she even know anything about her husband's health?

If you loved your partner or children even slightly, you should know more about them than either of these people demonstrated.

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Wed 04/22/15 11:24 AM
What she did makes me think some women are truly evil.

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Wed 04/22/15 11:36 AM

What she did makes me think some women are truly evil.
Fear God and the next to FEAR is woman for your own good!!!!

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Wed 04/22/15 11:50 AM
DoDo_David asked >>>
What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.


Well considering that there are quite a few countries that consider the female gender to be nothing short of 'cattle/commodity' and some will even use little girls {very - very small girls} to rape because the wives tale is 'raping a virgin will make your STD disappear'!!! There by just spreading the disease around and contaminating that many more females until the chances of wedding a non-contaminated female on your wedding day is 'NIL' {happens in so many African locations to day}---I'd say that there was always some slim chance that testing and accurate test results could be a doubtful thing over there; and knowing that you'd be left to survive without any support for your current children --- that would motivate a mother/woman to hide her STD status!

I don't advocate any of that but I do not advocate the lowly standard for my gender and the treatment that we receive globally either!
Just say'n...there's plethora of reasons for those women {see the location that this mythical story took place} and put yourself in that mothers shoes --- it's always easy to judge!

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Wed 04/22/15 11:50 AM
American and U.K. confidentiality regs,
only apply to America, and the U.K.,
and have no bearing on the medical practices
in Africa.

However, the story is reading like something
out of the inquirer.

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Wed 04/22/15 12:00 PM
uche9aa stated >>>
Ah! The hearts of women are ocean of secrets!!!! How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!. Thats just one example there for you.




You've gotta be pulling our collective leg's or your mode/method for finding a 'forever life partner' just hit the skids and you'll have to find a new method of approach! SERIOUSLY...that won't win you any female companionship or even a 'drive by - HELLO'!

I'll go with you are joking and that's an attempt at being FUNNY! Because I've yet to meet a man that's as honest as you elude to if your standard is that high!

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Wed 04/22/15 12:03 PM

American and U.K. confidentiality regs,
only apply to America, and the U.K.,
and have no bearing on the medical practices
in Africa.

However, the story is reading like something
out of the inquirer.
Not really.The country where this sad incident took place operate and practise same laws like the US.Same medical oath and same ethics

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Wed 04/22/15 12:04 PM
Edited by SitkaRains on Wed 04/22/15 12:06 PM


What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!.




Sorry I can remember each and every man I have ever slept with and I have never had an issue of being honest and upfront with this...

Some may be this way not all:angry: :angry:

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Wed 04/22/15 12:08 PM


American and U.K. confidentiality regs,
only apply to America, and the U.K.,
and have no bearing on the medical practices
in Africa.

However, the story is reading like something
out of the inquirer.
Not really.The country where this sad incident took place operate and practise same laws like the US.Same medical oath and same ethics


Same or similar.
The laws are of that country.
The u.s. has no legal bearing or jurisdiction there.

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Wed 04/22/15 12:46 PM


What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
Ah! The hearts of women are ocean of secrets!!!! How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!. Thats just one example there for you.

there are several other ways to catch HIV!slaphead

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Wed 04/22/15 12:49 PM



What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!.




Sorry I can remember each and every man I have ever slept with and I have never had an issue of being honest and upfront with this...

Some may be this way not all:angry: :angry:


I can honestly say I don't remember and I'm sure no future boyfriend wants to know even one sex act I had before him. Guys never want to think of their girlfriend with another man..

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Wed 04/22/15 02:02 PM


What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
Ah! The hearts of women are ocean of secrets!!!! How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!. Thats just one example there for you.


Hmmm.. well maybe in your part of the world the conversation of " so honey.. just how many times and how many men did you screw before you actually knew I existed" is a normal kitchen conversation, but in the rest of the world that is usually met with

None of your F***ing business...

to bad they don't come with a security seal on them...heh Uche... Lol

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Wed 04/22/15 08:01 PM
Was it ethical to have disclosed the woman's status to her husband

IMO yes.
What choice did he have?
"What's going on? Why is my wife receiving post labor treatment? She never did before. What's wrong?"

What is the doctor supposed to say?

"I can't tell you. But I swear we aren't harvesting anything for sale to aliens, or posting anything inappropriate to youtube."
"Why don't you go ask her, the non doctor who may ultimately not have understood what we're doing and thereby give you false information, I'm not getting involved in this."
"Let me go get my manager."
"She's not receiving treatment. Uh....we're just changing her oil. Yeah! That's it!"
"Let's all get together in my office for a few hours and work out what I can and can't tell you."
"Your status and relationship of 'husband' has no meaning to me. Go away or I'll call security."
"Let me just go back and forth between you and her so I can find out what I can and can't tell you...uhhh...not that you should assume there's stuff she's hiding from you."
Nothing and just walk away?

What do you think the husband is going to do if the doctor tries any of those?

What are the expectations of a doctor?

Also, was the guy listed anywhere with medical right of attorney?
Maybe he needs to be informed in case he needs to make decisions if she can't.

Whatever happened to the oath of secrecy and right of need to know?

It's a joke offering you a false sense of privacy?
I mean let's see who has access to your medical records with or without your permission:

Insurance companies, Government agencies especially if you receive Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, SSI, Workers Comp or any local, state or federal assistance, Employers, Banks, Financial Institutions, Researchers, If you are involved in a court case, your health records can be subpoenaed and available to the public, Marketers, Drug companies, Data miners, Transcribers in and outside the U.S., any health websites collect information about you

http://patientprivacyrights.org/basic-health-privacy-faqs/#WhoAccess

What are the likely consequences of his action?

His insurance rates go up.

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Wed 04/22/15 10:20 PM



What just cause is there for a married women to keep her husband from knowing that she is HIV positive?

I know not of any.
Ah! The hearts of women are ocean of secrets!!!! How many of them can be sincere enough to reveal to their husbands the number of men and the nunber of times they have been laid before marriage? NONE!!. Thats just one example there for you.


Hmmm.. well maybe in your part of the world the conversation of " so honey.. just how many times and how many men did you screw before you actually knew I existed" is a normal kitchen conversation, but in the rest of the world that is usually met with

None of your F***ing business...

to bad they don't come with a security seal on them...heh Uche... Lol
lol. I hope science will one day come up with a breakthrough on how to measure which woman is worth marrying and the one that had eaten toooo much of forbidden fruits